Why listen to what Tavis Smiley or Firedog Lake have to say about Obama's speech? FUCK THEM!!

[Cali_Democrat]

Let's hear what the Martin family has to say:

Martin's parents: Obama speech a 'beautiful tribute'

The parents of Trayvon Martin applauded President Obama's surprise discussion of their son, his death, and race relations in America as "a beautiful tribute" in a statement released Friday.


"We are deeply honored and moved that President Obama took the time to speak publicly and at length about our son, Trayvon," Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin said in the statement. "The president’s comments give us great strength at this time. We are thankful for President Obama’s and Michelle’s prayers, and we ask for your prayers as well as we continue to move forward."


Martin's parents went on to say that they were touched by the president saying he empathized with their son.

"What touches people is that our son, Trayvon Benjamin Martin, could have been their son," they said. "President Obama sees himself in Trayvon and identifies with him. This is a beautiful tribute to our boy."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/312345-martins-parents-obama-speech-a-beautiful-tribute

Like I said, FUCK Tavis Smiley and Firedog Lake.

The Martin family reaction is what counts and they appreciated his speech very much.

[Enrique]

1. or listen to all of them

and agree or disagree as you please.

[deutsey]

82. That has become a lost art n/t

[quinnox]

2. well gosh, I respect dissenting views

on subjects. I may or may not agree with them, but I respect them. It would be awful boring if we all always thought the same thing.

[Myrina]

3. Oh gee,I dunno ... Maybe because they're entitled

To have opinions too?

[Zoeisright]

92. And we're entitled to criticize them.

Christ on a crutch.

[leftstreet]

4. What did Tavis Smiley and FDL have to say?

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Sippin on the usual Obama Haterade

Par for the course.

Oh ya.

[Enrique]

9. Tavis said it wasn't enough

and FDL asked, how can Obama give that speech and at the same time endorse Ray Kelly for DHS?

[quinnox]

10. here is what Tavis had to say --

[avaistheone1]

30. There is nothing wrong with what Tavis said,

and I applaud him for what he said.

[geek tragedy]

40. Of course, he gave you "Obama is Satan" types validation and permission

to ignore what the vast majority of African-Americans felt about his remarks re: Trayvon.

[avaistheone1]

63. Must have missed it. Hhhmm where did he say that?

[MADem]

31. Tavis is just pissed because he didn't get special treatment from Obama.

Tavis was acting like Obama owed him something, and Obama wasn't having it. He's holding a grudge.

He needs to get over that shit.

[Hekate]

48. I do believe you are on to something there, MADem

[chimpymustgo]

83. Did you listen to what Tavis said? Do you disagree with it? I applaud his honesty about DOING

something, more than TALKING about it.

I was moved by Obama's speech Friday, but realized, once again, he was giving us words, and NO ACTION.

[MADem]

107. I listened to what OBAMA said, and I know it came from his HEART.

What TAVIS said came from his HATE.

Tavis can kiss my ass. I think he's a self-aggrandizing shitheel who has fucked over the black and latino community, the community has his number, and he's mad because he can't find a way back in.

He can take the millions he got from Wells Fargo and stick it where the sun don't shine for all I care.

[kelliekat44]

5. Perhaps to learn other points of view.

If your own opinions and thinking can't stand in the face of opposition maybe it's inaccurate or wrong. I am not swayed to be against the President by Tavis Smiley or even Harry Belefonte. I respect their right to their own opinions. I simply disagree with MOST of what they say about the President. I do agree with them on some points. And i ignore from them what is obviously personal animosity toward the President. Remember, they were both Hillary supporters and worshipers of Bill Clinton during the 2008 elections.

[Number23]

46. "And i ignore from them what is obviously personal animosity toward the President."

Exactly, Kelliekat. And so do a whooooooole bunch of black people. But it's black people that Tavis tailors these messages for anymore. And it's so funny to me, that many of his biggest "supporters" here and at FDL had probably never even heard of until he took up with Cornell.

[MADem]

108. Tavis cares about black people as much as George Bush does!

Maybe less!

He sure didn't have any problem taking millions from Wells Fargo to push sub-prime mortgages on minority communities, did he?

Tavis is pissed because people who pay attention have his greedy little number.

[Number23]

112. MADem, I think he used to care and I think a large part of him still does

But an even larger part cares much, MUCH more about the almighty $$$ and he ain't gonna get that if he's one of the 28 brazillion million black people that support this president.

He doesn't even tailor his comments to us anymore. "We" stopped being Tavis' target audience a long time ago. It's all about the Fire Dog Lake crowd now and they eat his foolishness up with a spoon.

[MADem]

113. When he did that Wells Fargo thing, I gotta say, he lost me.

I was one of those who was in his corner and wanting him to do well AND do good, if you know what I mean.

When I got wind of that, and found out that he was selling out the least of our brethren with fast talk and bullshit promises, for four million pieces of silver, I was disgusted. Didn't want anything to do with him anymore.

I always say 'By their words we shall know them' but I think we know them even more intimately by their DEEDS. He did a bad, bad thing. To his OWN, too. Not nice.

[railsback]

6. Opinions matter

Until it comes to SnowdenWald. Then you're an Obama-bot STASI lover.

[delrem]

12. I think you might've overdosed on a political meme.

[Cha]

18. Right.. opinions are very important when

they've being slung from Obama haters.. BUT, when you're a supporter of said Prez Obama then you are "overdosing..". rofl

[CakeGrrl]

95. +1000

Nail on the head.

But don't DARE take objection to Obama criticism. ALL are welcome to do that!

[last1standing]

8. Because when we stop listening we become ignorant.

Even views we don't like have merit, if only to sharpen our own opinions. I won't walk in lockstep and I won't stop respecting the views of those I disagree with. Even yours.

[Iggo]

100. ^^^^^^^

[JaneyVee]

11. I agree with Tavis on some things and disagree with him on other things. This

I disagree with him on.

[WillyT]

14. Yes... THIS !!!

[Skittles]

23. or this

[WillyT]

24. LOL !!!

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

15. Obama could turn water into wine

and conservatives would call him the antichrist while his left-wing critics complained about the low alcohol content.

Their schtick is getting tiresome.

[Union Scribe]

20. How do you feel about Ray Kelly's possible nomination?

Do you think it fits with Obama's concern about racial profiling?

[KittyWampus]

36. someone asked Obama a question about Kelly, he said nice things as he is wont to do….

and that turns into Firebaggers raging about a "possible nomination".

So no one actually has to feel anything about Kelly's possible nomination because at this point, Obama has given no sign NO SIGN AT ALL, Kelly is actually a possible nominee.

[Union Scribe]

62. Well I certainly am glad he'd never consider nominating

anyone with right-wing tendencies. Lol. But if Kelly was nominated I'm sure you'd join me in opposing him.

[geek tragedy]

38. How do you feel about his possible choice of Hillary as VP? nt

[Union Scribe]

59. Whose? nt

[geek tragedy]

75. Obama said that Hillary would be on anyone's short list

for VP. Turns out she was never under consideration.

Obama talks like a politician sometimes. This confuses people on DU.

[PragmaticLiberal]

84. Actually, Hillary was under consideration...by Obama.

The people around him not so much....

[malaise]

76. Ray Kelly's what?

That won't happen

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

87. I know the difference between floating, actually considering, and nominating.

Three different categories people should learn to keep the fire in their hair under control.

[Union Scribe]

90. What part of "possible" confused you all?

And why can't you answer a simple question?

[Hekate]

49. Remember when Obama walked across the Potomac? The GOP said it was proof he couldn't swim.

The whole thing is so mind-numbingly stupid I just need another pot of

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

88. Love some LBJ.

[uponit7771]

66. +1

[whopis01]

97. "complained about the low alcohol content"

That's funny. I laughed out loud at that one. I am going to steal it at the first opportunity.

[LeftyMom]

16. Thanks again for the Living Colour earworm.

[Cha]

17. No worries.. tavis got blowback from "Black Twitter" and just Twitterverse..

I'm guessing the "hashtag" is "tavis weeps"..

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary

Nice pic of @tavissmiley on Meet the Press pic.twitter.com/YzUjq6AYE2



http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/21/rise-and-shine-560/#comments

Bobfr @Our4thEstate

#TavisWeeps because #PBO created the Consumer Finance Protection Board in part to nail subprime mortgage scams that he pimped for WellsFargo7:13 AM - 21 Jul 2013

55 Retweets 16 favorites ReplyRetweet

sfpelosi @sfpelosi

#TavisWeeps because in 19 minutes President @BarackObama inspired more deep conversation about race than Smiley has his whole career. #J4TM

LiberalPhenom @LiberalPhenom

#TavisWeeps because Wells Fargo and Wal-Mart stopped bankrolling his anti-poverty hustle. Now he has to wait for Fox to call.

eclecticbrotha @eclecticbrotha

#TavisWeeps because his Poverty Pimpin' Tour came to a screeching halt when his Wells Fargo Wagon caught a flat tire.

KSK(africa) @lawalazu

#TavisWeeps because only time Privileged MSM thinks he's worthy and is called on, is to bash PBO.

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/21/smile-you-know-you-want-to/

It goes on and on, Cali.. but, you get the pic. Pres Obama gives a compelling talk on the Trayvon Martin verdict and racism and the corporatemedia bring in an Obama hater. tavis' claim to fame.

As you say.. the important thing is how it affected so many African American People who don't have an bitter sour agenda like tavis smiley.. including Trayvon Martin's parents.

Okay, just a couple more..

ExtremeLiberal (Jim) @ExtremeLiberal

Who is this Tavis guy - is he the one who helped con ppl into subprime loans? #tavisweeps Dave Jordan @DJNYC1

Boom! Pow!! RT “@ExtremeLiberal: Who is this Tavis guy - is he the one who helped con ppl into subprime loans? #tavisweeps”6:43 AM - 21 Jul 2013

rootwoman123 @rootwoman123

#TavisWeeps because he's the person most associated with the dreadful hashtag #BlackBitterati. Snap out of it, Brother!

John V. Moore @johnvmoore

#TavisWeeps because Black folk know that Joe Biden has more street cred than he does.

And Tavis Weeps Because.. BAM.

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary

#TavisWeeps because..... pic.twitter.com/gieZkAhhri7:58 AM - 21 Jul 2013

[freshwest]

21. In 19 minutes PBO inspired more deep conversation about race than Smiley has his whole career

That's gonna leave a mark!

Shilling for Wells Fargo? He's a bankster? Where's the hate?

He is sooo busted. People's IQ's plummet listening to that man...

[Cha]

22. I'm so Glad Twitterverse blasted back

on his bitter ass, fresh!

tavis' show was sponsored by Wells Fargo for years and they're not letting him forget it.. it's part of his hypocrisy legacy now.

http://blip.tv/grittv/the-f-word-state-of-the-tavis-smiley-wells-fargo-union-2271114

and this...Ouch!

Melissa Harris-Perry compares Tavis Smiley to Tuskegee syphilis study's black nurse

It is no secret that there has been some very “bad blood” flowing between, on one side, Dr. Harris-Perry, and on the other, Tavis Smiley and Princeton Professor Dr. Cornel West. Indeed, I have written about their ongoing feud in the past. The attention has mainly been focused on Drs. West and Harris-Perry. Today, however, Dr. Harris-Perry exponentially ratcheted up her critique of Smiley by directly comparing his role in the Wells Fargo bank’s now defunct “wealth building” program to nurse Rivers’ function during the TSE.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/13622125-melissa-harrisperry-compares-tavis-smiley-to-tuskegee-syphilis-studys-black-nurse

[freshwest]

42. Never heard of this, Cha. More money to be made prolonging a problem than solving it, huh?

It's that 'if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.'

Some have made a profession of refusing solutions, tearing them all down as 'not good enough.'.

So they get mad when they see something doing the work they can't or won't do; they cry foul and try to stop it.

For those who see there are many problems and that most people are not profiting by them, they want the resolved and then ready themselves for the next task. This is sad, sad stuff.

[Cha]

43. You got it, fresh..

and tavis is a sad bitter man who has his fans because he's been hatin' on Obama since he wouldn't go to to tavis' state of the black union back in 08.

[freshwest]

52. Sounds petty, But that 'black nurse' thing cuts to the quick. Just a nursin' something along but not

caring if the patient ever gets cured for the money. I don't know if the people that she's speaking of really knew what was going on. Perhaps we want to believe there was no malice in that one person. But the rest was regimes doing experiments on POWs, but with a smiling face.

That little adventure in, take your pick, eugenics or genocide, that depends on the perspective, was one of the most depraved things we studied in HS history class.

They watched those men die horrible deaths and pass the disease around. It's like AA's have been POWs in the place of their birth.

As someone said, this is a white problem, we have to get through to the people who can't accept. Find all the solutions, try them out, keep listening.

Despite still having trouble in South Africa, one of the most remarkable thing was the process of Reconcillation by Mandela and Tutu. The colonists in a way, did not deserve such a gift from those they'd wronged.

At this point, it is on the white community to fix this, to reach out, to change minds. If we want a future for our country, we are going to have to do our part.

Thanks for all these details, Cha. I don't tweet, the brevity and the system of it seem so limiting. Most of them I've read don't make a lot of sense, but these tweets were condensed and got right to the point!

[Hekate]

61. Oh. My. Gods. Melissa Harris-Perry went THERE?

I knew Cornell West and Tavis Smiley had that anger in them, but sweet charming Professor Melissa?!

Ka-Pow! She must have been in a white-hot rage.

[Skidmore]

96. I think MHP rocks!

She is fearless and never leaves something unanswered or unaddressed. Some of the most thoughtful discussions are held on her program on the weekend.

[Number23]

47. He has made himself into such a COLOSSAL joke!!! He is an absolute disaster

TavisWeeps. That is sad and absolutely hilarious all at the same time.

[Cha]

56. He was

due, 23. the bitter made him do it. And, MTP accommodated by giving him a national stage in which to implode. All because he made some koolaid tweet about PBO's unscripted speech about Trayvon Martin and the verdict.

One of many comments under the article I posted downthread..

dragonpuff Reply

Jul. 21st, 2013 at 5:42 pm
Tavis is a parody of himself at this point. He is a tiny, tiny, tiny little man with a gigantic ego that will not be satiated until he destroys his whole life trying to vilify the President.

[Number23]

57. You got that right. Anyone truly interested and not trolling can look at the responses from black

pundits re: Tavis and Corney. The overwhelming response is that the vast majority of black people, regardless of income and education, have NO INTEREST in what these two losers have to say about anything.

Tavis Weeps. Yeah, he's weeping all the way to the bank with the checks from the FDL crowd. Because no one black is even entertaining these two anymore and hasn't for a loong time.

[Jamaal510]

54. Nice!

"#TavisWeeps because in 19 minutes President @BarackObama inspired more deep conversation about race than Smiley has his whole career."

[calimary]

55. OUCH!

#TavisWeeps because in 19 minutes President @BarackObama inspired more deep conversation about race than Smiley has his whole career. #J4TM

[Union Scribe]

19. Activate ostrich mode. Ostrich mode is a go. nt

[WillyT]

25. LOL !!!

[Cha]

26. Too many wonderful People loved it..

Historian: Trayvon Martin will be a dark moment in US history, Obama now part of that story, fr @TheLeadCNN http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/19/obamas-speech-on-trayvon-martin-one-for-the-history-books/ …

Charles Blow: "With the President's statement, an exalted black man found kinship with a buried black boy" http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/opinion/blow-barack-and-trayvon.html?_r=1& …

NYT Editorial: President Obama’s Anguish
President Obama did something Friday that he hardly ever does – and no other president could ever have done. He addressed the racial fault lines in the country by laying bare his personal anguish and experience...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/opinion/president-obamas-anguish.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

LA Times: Ira Acree spent two hours passing out fliers in front of the Dirksen Federal Building in downtown Chicago, hoping to spread the word about a “Justice for Trayvon” vigil at noon Saturday – one of at least 100 planned in cities across the nation . . . On the way back to his car, Acree, a pastor, spotted a television in the lobby of the parking garage . . . A crowd had gathered in front, as if “watching the football game,” Acree said. President Obama was speaking . . .
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-vigils-20130719,0,4900294,full.story

"Obama on Trayvon Martin: The first black president speaks out First as a black American"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023301912

Obama on Trayvon Martin: The first black president speaks out First as a black American

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-on-trayvon-martin-the-first-black-president-speaks-out-first-as-a-black-american/2013/07/20/41f7045c-f154-11e2-bed3-b9b6fe264871_story.html

Context..

Obama haters like tavis can't handle this.. it makes them pout.

[madokie]

27. Thank you

[SidDithers]

77. Look for Bruce Dixon or Glen Ford next...

When we see The Tavis and Cornel Clown show, can Black Agenda Report be far behind?

Sid

[geek tragedy]

80. That train is never late. nt

[ucrdem]

29. Thank you. He didn't have to say anything, but he did.

So did Holder. They're both tops in my book.

[freshwest]

104. Both are tops in my book too. For you, Ucrdem:

Attorney General Eric Holder at the NAACP

Published on Jul 16, 2013

Attorney General Eric Holder addresses the 104th Annual NAACP Convention in Orlando, Florida on 07/16/13 and discusses the Trayvon Martin verdict.



The Stand in the Schoolhouse Door

When Alabama Gov. George Wallace positioned himself defiantly at the entrance to a University of Alabama gymnasium, he created a moment and phrase that still echoes half a century later.

His "Stand in the Schoolhouse Door" was an attempt to keep African-Americans out of the state's flagship university in Tuscaloosa. The politician, who had vowed "Segregation now, Segregation tomorrow, Segregation forever," provided one of the most dramatic moments of the 1960s when he tried to block two students from enrolling at the University of Alabama...

The two students who confronted Wallace, Vivian Malone Jones and James Hood, arrived at the university's Foster Auditorium on the morning of June 11, 1963, to register for classes. They were escorted by U.S. deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach with the support of the Alabama National Guard, which had been federalized that day by President Kennedy...

In another surprising twist, her younger sister married an attorney, named Eric Holder, who went on to become the first African-American Attorney General of the United States. Holder, who attended the dedication ceremony honoring his late sister-in-law, said nothing to reporters that day, knowing, it seems, that her achievement helped lead to his decades later. But happy endings were hardly assured after the confrontation at Foster Auditorium. The next day, civil rights activist Medgar Evers was murdered in Jackson, Miss., and many (including President Kennedy and his brother, then-Attorney General Robert Kennedy), feared violence might spread across the South...

More and a video at the link:

http://civilrightstravel.com/tuscaloosa.html



Vivian Malone Jones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Malone_Jones

Eric Holder has worked on many issues important to progressives. He supports the view of the 2nd Amendment that has existed among liberals since FDR. That earned him many enemies and the bogus Fast and Furious charges by Darryl Issa.

A clear look at the total man reveals more about him than the media disinformation about him. As shown above, Holder does not crave the spotlight, but keeps working. He has been working hard for Americans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder

[ucrdem]

105. Thanks, freshwest -- great info on a very impressive guy

And I completely agree. Holder works under the radar and accomplishes a lot of very good work. In fact the more I find out about him the more I like him!

[DevonRex]

32. Tavis doing his best "Stephen the Butler" from "Django Unchained."

Fuck him. You can always tell which one the "Stephen" character is by which one ordinary African Americans scorn the most. Tavis and Cornel are doing the best "Stephen" impressions of anyone, while pointing fingers elsewhere. Funny how the African American community isn't buying their bullshit one bit.

It's only a small group of people that keep dragging out these guys, as if they prove their claims to non-bias. Really, it's all about scoring anti-Obama points. For some reason they think they get a double score if criticism comes from an African American.

Kind of like the right wing does with the odd black or gay Republican out there. Same bullshit tactic.

[DevonRex]

34. No. That would be YOU. nt

[Bonobo]

35. Umm, really? But you said he was "Stephen the Butler".

So what are you saying then?

Seems pretty clear to me.

[DevonRex]

37. I don't use language like you did. EVER. Your grasp of how to discuss race is nil.

Goodbye.

[Cha]

44. Oh no..

Stephen the butler!

Samuel played him to the hilt!

[DevonRex]

51. I love Samuel L. Jackson.

He can do anything. He and the German guy were the movie. And I was so proud, in a perverse way, that the butler was the brains behind the whole plantation. The black man. That movie crushed so many stereotypes in very, very important ways.

I've gotten sick and tired of people making nasty insinuations about Obama working for the white man and all that entails. The same people never once question the fact that the one or two loons they dig up like Cornel West and Travis Smiley are also working for the white man. Ordinary African Americans for the most part think what those two say about Obama is utter crap. And unless I'm to believe that all those African Americans are stupid (which I don't and which would be racist) I'll go with their opinion instead of what some wacky woo woo online rag tells me.

Anyway, that's what got me going on the Stephen-the-Butler theme tonight. And God bless Samuel L. Jackson. And Tarrantino for making that movie. I'd love to have a discussion group about it.

[lindisfarne]

41. I used to like to listen to Travis Smiley

I used to like to listen to Travis Smiley but in the last few years he's become very strident and I find myself turning off the radio whenever he comes on. He's entitled to an opinion, but I don't think he has been providing good support for his views in recent years.

I'm glad he has a voice, and he's certainly welcome to his own opinion. But, I'd like to see him present better arguments to back it up. Right now, I just get tired of what I hear from him.

[Number23]

45. Got a post hidden in the other thread and DAMN proud of it. Like my third or 4th hidden post ever

So sick of the obvious making themselves so fucking obvious and then crying when people call them out on it.

Quick Message to Geek Tragedy: PLEASE TRASH THAT THREAD!! I know that I did. He'll probably get a hidden post the way he was going too. That is the first thread in the history of my participation on this web site that I have ever trashed.

[Cha]

64. Oh, there's a thread out there on it?

I must have them on Ignore. Glad Cali made this thread then.

[Number23]

67. You are a wise, wise woman. Yes, there is another thread with Tavis' comments

You didn't miss a damn thing with your wise use of Ignore. But I'm pretty sure that you already knew that.

[Cha]

74. Good. They lumped themselves

in with that inveterate hater since Obama wouldn't go to his state of the black union back in 2008. I don't want to hear any shit about keeping feet to fire when they're just little tavis smiley wannabes. Bitter, whining, rejected hasbeens.

[Cha]

50. "Tavis Smiley Made A Fool Out of Himself by Bashing Obama’s Trayvon Martin Remarks"

If your read the transcript of Smiley’s remarks, you can see why he embarrassed himself. He never criticized what the president said about the death of Trayvon Martin. Instead, he pulled out his usual Obama bashing remarks. The president isn’t doing enough. The president is leading from behind. The president isn’t trying hard enough. Smiley’s main criticism of leading from behind came straight from the Republican Party.

theGrio knocked down Smiley’s main point that Obama was pushed into making his remarks, “An administration source on Friday told theGrio that the president watched the verdict, along with millions of Americans, last Saturday, and by Thursday, following intense conversations with members of his family, and with friends, Obama decided that he wanted to speak. The official told theGrio on background that Obama called a meeting of his senior staff late Thursday and told them he wanted to make a statement, but that he didn’t want to give a scripted speech, or even warn the press.” (Just like Republicans, Smiley is painting a picture of Obama that doesn’t really exist in order to portray himself as the hero.)

Meet The Press booked Tavis Smiley because of his Kool-Aid tweet in response to the president’s remarks on Trayvon Martin. Smiley seems to have a personal grudge against Obama, and his criticisms revealed the weakness of his argument. There are legitimate reasons to criticize President Obama. For instance, it can be argued that he hasn’t said enough on the issues of poverty and African-American unemployment but, bashing him for the sake of getting on national television was an embarrassment to the entire discussion of race in this country.

http://thegrio.com/2013/07/21/on-meet-the-press-tavis-smiley-doubles-down-on-obama-weak-kool-aid-remarks/

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/21/tavis-smiley-fool-bashing-obamas-trayvon-martin-remarks.html

tavis smiley needs to stop making and gulping down his own homemade brew of tavis smiley koolaid.

[Number23]

69. Black pundits, black media, the black Twitterverse, and a whole lot of black people on DU are saying

the same thing. Glad to know that I am in good company. Not that I ever had a doubt.

Like Jamaal (or was it ecstatic?) said, Tavis can still come back from this. But he needs to stop hating like yesterday though it certainly seems to have resonated with a "certain" type of "liberal". They would be the ones that most of the black posters on this site ignore like the plague or are the source of a billion "WTF?" PM's but still act as though they know what we think or feel about anything. Yeah we "laugh" when read this forum. AT Y'ALL.

[Kahuna]

72. #TravisWeeps was trending at number one for a while yesterday..

[Number23]

73. Big Kahuna!!!

Sooo glad to see you!!

TavisWeeps is about the funniest thing I've heard in a looong time. I have no doubt whatsoever that lots of people are laughing at the man's salty tears.

http://theurbandaily.com/2521522/black-twitter-goes-in-on-tavis-smileys-hate-of-president-obama-via-tavisweeps/

#TavisWeeps because Michael Steele has more fans on #BlackTwitter than he does.

[Jamaal510]

53. Co-sign

on the "fuck Tavis Smiley". Trayvon Martin's parents didn't have a problem with his speech, and neither did the vast majority of their's or Obama's supporters. I really think something is up with him (along with Cornel West). Both claim to be Obama supporters, yet have seemingly been far more critical of him than of the GOP.

[DevonRex]

58. I agree. And I take my cues from

my friends and African Americans in my political life and on DU. I'm white. I lived in Mississippi for a long time so I'm really sensitive to the issues. I have good instincts about dog whistle BS. But I still know enough to watch and listen. I knew I didn't like what Travis and Cornel were saying. But my final test is always how my friends react, how the community reacts. What I've seen is distrust. And the bottom line is that I trust the consensus of my very savvy African American friends and the community. If they aren't buying what those two are selling then why the hell should I?

[calimary]

65. Frankly, if Trayvon Martin's parents are okay with it, who am I to second-guess?

Their opinions on this particular issue are far more important and relevant to me than Tavis Smiley's.

Honestly, I sometimes just get tired of all the damn criticism and fault-finding and hole-poking that this President has had to deal with. On EVERYTHING! Seems like it just never ends. Forcryingoutloud, it's just nothing but pile-ons du jour. It all starts to run together and get boring and meaningless after awhile.

[ReRe]

60. Your discontent is duly noted & understood.

Look it.... GWB just about killed this country. Some still think that the mess he made can be cleaned up in a day. It can't. Some are impatient with the speed of the recovery. Some would like to see PO charge in and put his foot down. He's not that kind of President. He's a different President in a much different time. Maybe we will get another FDR in the future, but right now, we have what we have. The detractors need to get a grip, yes.

Personally, I am proud that PO came out and addressed the situation. We all need to be thankful that our country is not in blazes over that unjust verdict in Sanford, Fl. And I guarantee everyone, if PO was not the President, it WOULD BE.. Even the detractors would have to agree with that.

And now, we must await the results of the Justice Department's investigation. And that gawd-awful Koch Bros/ALEC/Corporate sponsored SYG law must be thrown out in each and every state that has adopted it.

[flamingdem]

68. K&R Cali_D

Thanks for this thread

[Scurrilous]

70. Thanks.

[bravenak]

71. Smiley's just still pissed that Obama didn't come to his slumber party.

Or something. So tired of him. He just opposes Obama to get attention and feel important.
And I sty far away from FDL , I like to keep the contents of my stomach intact.

[SidDithers]

78. DU rec...nt

Sid

[BumRushDaShow]

79. Joe Madison was addressing this on his show this morning

Celebrity journalist Deathmatch - Tavis Smiley vs Eugene Robinson

(paraphrase) "He leads from behind" vs "He shouldn't be the one to address this".

And so the world turns.

[darkangel218]

81. I have no clue who Tavis Smiley is.

Judging by the name alone, it sounds like a goof ball.

But then again, I don't judge by names. Nevermind.

[PragmaticLiberal]

85. Nah, he's not a goofball.

He's just a pundit who is bitter because Obama wouldn't come out and play with him.

[ProSense]

86. In summary:

Tavis Smiley On Obama's Trayvon Martin Speech: 'He Was Pushed To That Podium' (VIDEO)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023308683

...Tavis is a special kind of clown. He and others like him use the President to get attention. I mean, WTF is he talking about?

Obama: 'If I Had A Son, He Would Look Like Trayvon' (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002460121

Considering the President's Comments on Racial Profiling
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023300448

[great white snark]

89. Yup.

"He and others like him use the President to get attention."

They think dropping BHO's name will somehow bring them some relevance. FUCK THAT NOISE.

[arely staircase]

91. I would say this marginalizes them

but there is a level of obscurity beyond which it makes no difference.

[Fire Walk With Me]

93. Congratulations on alienating from the democratic party anyone with an IQ over 80

and even a hint of street smarts.

Occupy Wall Street ?@OccupyWallStNYC

Secret police recordings: "We're going to go out there and violate some rights." Disgusting.
#StopAndFrisk
http://ow.ly/ncTK0


CIA Agent Had "No Limitations" Working With NYPD After 9/11

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/27/cia_agent_had_no_limitations_workin.php



NYC 'Stop and Frisk' Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

http://www.policymic.com/articles/22375/nyc-stop-and-frisk-policy-ruled-unconstitutional-conservatives-immediately-start-whining



Racial Profiling Muslims: NYPD is Violating Civil Liberties by Spying on Religious Groups

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24817/racial-profiling-muslims-nypd-is-violating-civil-liberties-by-spying-on-religious-groups


And of course Occupiers know all about NYPD and Ray Kelly. Add that Kelly works for Bloomberg, a Wall Street billionaire, and add that to Obama and his nomination of legendary foe of worker's rights Penny Pritzker, and you've got a 1%-a-palooza. Now with added racism and unConstitutionality. But I know Obama is more than empty words: he'll rush right out and overturn all "Stand your ground" rulings and legislation and disband ALEC and the NRA who are behind it. Right soon, coming right up.

Those who are capable of perceiving the actions of another versus their words have little to nothing to gain from what the democratic party currently has to offer. And in all fairness to the party, Obama is certainly no democrat.

[Fire Walk With Me]

94. “I think Ray Kelly is one of the best there is,” Obama said.

Would Obama consider Ray Kelly for Homeland Security?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2013/07/18/would-obama-consider-ray-kelly-for-homeland-security-amid-stop-and-frisk-controversy/

New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly would be “well-qualified” to run the Department of Homeland Security, Obama said in an interview with Univision’s affiliate in the New York/New Jersey area. He hasn’t actually named Kelly as his choice to replace outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who is leaving to head the University of California system.

Was putting such a strong endorsement out there a first step toward seeing how Kelly’s name is received, or was it a case of the president being polite when being put on the spot? Obama said the commissioner “might be very happy where he is.” If Kelly isn’t, though, Obama said he’d want to know about it. “I think Ray Kelly is one of the best there is,” Obama said.

Yes, racist, unConstitutional Ray Kelly. So much for Obama being serious about racism and the Constitution. LOOK AT THEIR ACTIONS, NOT THEIR WORDS.

You owe Firedog Lake a significant apology. Here on DU.

[99Forever]

98. Very classy thread title.

Must suck to be so consumed with hatred just because someone won't bow down to your idol, eh?

[Cali_Democrat]

99. I've actually been pretty good lately at poking the people I want to poke

Recently, a few "new" members have registered on DU, looked up my older threads and attacked me personally. All their posts are replies to me. All of 'em. It's hilarious. Some of these threads are in the archives.

Of course they are promptly banned by MIRT and all their replies are gone soon after.

Just knowing my OP's get under their skin so much...to the point where they create accounts to attack me makes me feel damn good.

[99Forever]

101. I see.

So your purpose here is to alienate everyone you don't happen to agree with.

Congrats, you do that well.

[Fire Walk With Me]

102. “I think Ray Kelly is one of the best there is, so he’s been an outstanding leader in New York,”

~Obama said.

How nice of you to ROFL in support of a thread denying the blatant hypocrisy of the President after the death of an unarmed person of color as he simultaneously offers such support and good words to a blatantly racist, unConstitutional monster such as Ray Kelly. Congratulations. Why don't you come over here a minute and be serious:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023316627

[Cha]

106. Petty pathetic bullies.. who are only here

to disrupt.

Mahalo for this thread, Cali. I had seen lots of Twitterverse on "#tavisweeps" but hadn't seen anything on DU so I forgot about it. Then your thread pops up and I was like.. "What?!" 'cause of your "classy title" .. you know. Anyway, turns out there was a thread on tavis and poutrage .. I just hadn't seen it.

But, back to yours.. I got right in the mood to vent about the m$m calling on ol predictable tavis to diss the president's Healing Message that was especially appreciated by The Martin Family.

[Cali_Democrat]

109. I really liked the statement from the Martin family.

[Cha]

110. Yes, it was precious from them and for them and

for us.

Your thread title was all the "class" tavis & baggers deserved.

[Apophis]

103. Classy thread title.

Tavis Smiley doesn't agree with your assessment of Obama's speech? Yeah. Fuck him.