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Beacool

(30,247 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:18 PM Jul 2013

Cuccinelli: I still believe being gay is “against nature”

Virginia's Attorney General doubled down on prior comments that gays and lesbians are "harmful to society"
By Jillian Rayfield
July 21, 2012



At Saturday’s debate in the race for Virginia governor, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli did not back down from comments he had made previously attacking gays and lesbians.

Debate moderator Judy Woodruff of PBS Newshour had asked Cuccinelli if he still believed being gay is “against nature” and “harmful to society,” the Washington Post reports.

“My personal beliefs about the personal challenges of homosexuality haven’t changed,” Cuccinelli replied.

“The notion that because I believe marriage ought to be protected, because I believe life begins at conception — just like hundreds of thousands of independents and Democrats — this isn’t just me, it isn’t just Republicans,” he continued. “There are lots of Virginians, millions, perhaps, of Virginians, who share my sincerely held beliefs.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/21/cuccinelli_i_still_believe_being_gay_is_against_nature/

Look at that photo and remember that face. Please make sure that he does not get elected governor. His candidate for Lt. Governor is equally extremist. Cuccinelli is also advocating a ban on oral and anal sex in the state.

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Cuccinelli: I still believe being gay is “against nature” (Original Post) Beacool Jul 2013 OP
How can something be against nature? nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #1
That is what it used t be called in old times. Beacool Jul 2013 #2
I got to depressed long before you did Beacool. Boomerproud Jul 2013 #40
Is it ever going to end? Beacool Jul 2013 #42
Ha! So are fracking and GMOs! Bon Appétit! n/t dogknob Jul 2013 #3
I'm sure that he's for both. Beacool Jul 2013 #4
in an effort to boost its flagging ratings, GOP declares war on oral sex. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #5
Ironically, some of the most publicly repressed people are quite kinky in private. Beacool Jul 2013 #6
Thanks for reminding me. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #12
In other words BainsBane Jul 2013 #7
My guess is he's one of those guys who refuses to have oral sex with her because it's "icky." alarimer Jul 2013 #10
You seriously think that is a liberal conservative thing? BainsBane Jul 2013 #11
Last time I had sex with an acknowledged Republican was probably the mid-late 80s. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #15
Possibly not. alarimer Jul 2013 #36
Most of the few actual right-wingers I still know are geriatric white FOX NEWS viewers. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #47
Yeah. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #13
You'd be surprised how common it is BainsBane Jul 2013 #21
Some men are selfish. Beacool Jul 2013 #23
It's better to give, than to receive. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #26
What a creepy Santa!!! Beacool Jul 2013 #29
The artist responsible for that piece apologized at the end of it. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #33
OK............ Beacool Jul 2013 #34
Some of us are blessed, I guess, with "Gift of the Magi" relationships. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #25
Good for you BainsBane Jul 2013 #41
Thanks. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #46
Never thought of that. Beacool Jul 2013 #19
hey dimwit, nature is what nature is.... spanone Jul 2013 #8
Keep talking, Ken, you're digging your own grave. alarimer Jul 2013 #9
Well you say that now... burnodo Jul 2013 #16
If he wins, it will be because 3rd-way Terry is too chicken to actually confront him on this shit. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #18
I sure hope so. Beacool Jul 2013 #20
Oh don't get me started! burnodo Jul 2013 #14
His name alone is ironic pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #17
I hope that McAuliffe gets help from the DNC. Beacool Jul 2013 #22
The closet is not natural! Being who you are is natural. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #24
Well, if it's any consolation, his campaign against oral and anal sex includes everybody. Beacool Jul 2013 #31
Maybe he is just lazy. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #32
I still believe being Cuccinelli is against nature. Squinch Jul 2013 #27
His name sounds like an Italian restaurant. Beacool Jul 2013 #35
But I love Italian restaurants! I was thinking more along the lines of Squinch Jul 2013 #37
Ewwwwww!!!!!!!!!!! Beacool Jul 2013 #43
THAT'S Cuccinelli!!!!! Squinch Jul 2013 #52
If he teams up with Santorum, things could get messy. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #49
Fine, you want to spend Virginia's tax dollars arresting everyone who has oral sex. Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #28
I believe if someone with views like Cuccinelli's is elected to public office, it is an indepat Jul 2013 #30
My personal beliefs about the personal challenges of Douchenelli haven't changed. Zorra Jul 2013 #38
Anyone who wants to criminalize any sexual act between consenting adults Beacool Jul 2013 #44
The writer Anne Lamott had a bit in one of her early books about dating a Republican... vanlassie Jul 2013 #39
You mean like Meat Loaf? Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #48
I think Cuccinelli is against nature. Rex Jul 2013 #45
List of animals displaying homosexual behavior (from Wiki) LittleBlue Jul 2013 #50
Wow, I had never seen that list. Beacool Jul 2013 #53
I would really Dwayne Hicks Jul 2013 #51
He alleges that it would stop pedophilia. Beacool Jul 2013 #54

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
2. That is what it used t be called in old times.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:25 PM
Jul 2013

I'm becoming depressed with the trajectory of this country in the last few years. The RW has become even more extremist. It's as if we are going back to another era. An era prior to civil rights, women's rights and Roe v. Wade.

Scary.............

Boomerproud

(7,951 posts)
40. I got to depressed long before you did Beacool.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

It's been heading this way since the Reagan Regression. We are living it.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
6. Ironically, some of the most publicly repressed people are quite kinky in private.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:07 PM
Jul 2013

Vitter is one example.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
10. My guess is he's one of those guys who refuses to have oral sex with her because it's "icky."
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:27 PM
Jul 2013

Far too many guys still think that way. Oh, they want you to do it to them, but won't reciprocate.

This is one reason I'll only date liberals.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
11. You seriously think that is a liberal conservative thing?
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

I prefer to date liberals because I don't want to spend my time being pissed off at someone's loony ideas.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. Last time I had sex with an acknowledged Republican was probably the mid-late 80s.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jul 2013

And even then I didn't realize it until I saw her later in the week wearing a pro-Reagan shirt.... non-ironicially.

Too bad, too, because she was hot. But that was one of the things which effectively ended the relationship.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
36. Possibly not.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jul 2013

I just have the idea that liberals are more caring of their partner's wants and needs. It isn't always true, but most conservatives I know are selfish assholes who barely treat their "loved" ones like human beings. I can surmise that they are equally selfish in bed. Something that in my limited experience has proven a good rule of thumb to follow.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
47. Most of the few actual right-wingers I still know are geriatric white FOX NEWS viewers.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:37 AM
Jul 2013

Suffice it to say I don't spend a lot of time thinking about their sex lives.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
23. Some men are selfish.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jul 2013

They expect oral sex, but are reluctant to give it. I don't think that it necessarily falls along party lines, though.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
46. Thanks.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jul 2013

As for the rest of it, I don't know. I have no plans to move to Virginia, either way. There are a lot of things I like, that other people don't like, and if I really broke it down I'd probably suspect they're missing out tremendously, even though of course we're all different. The guitar work of Jerry Garcia, or obscenely spicy -even abusively so- Tom Yum Goong. C'est la vie.

These guys who "refuse" to ... er, well, shit. I'm not one to tell anyone what to do or not to do, but I'd file them under "missing out tremendously" as well.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. Keep talking, Ken, you're digging your own grave.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jul 2013

Electorally speaking.

How does he think this will go over in blue northern Virginia?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. If he wins, it will be because 3rd-way Terry is too chicken to actually confront him on this shit.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:47 PM
Jul 2013

Cuccinelli is claiming that, "oh, this law can't be used against consenting adults"

so a) Why is it so important to him that the government consistently condemn homosexuality to the point of having the right to throw gay people in prison for being gay, and

b) if it's not about consenting private behavior, why did Cuccinelli vote against the amendment to SB 477 which would have explicitly exempted that from the law?

He can't have it both ways. ('phrasing!') He can't argue that he's not interested in busting into peoples' bedrooms and arresting them for consensual adult sex, and then vote explicitly to retain that specific right for the government.

Bottom line, if Virginians want their tax dollars to go to a squad of state fuck police rounding up and arresting every adult who has oral sex in their bedroom, they should vote for this Jesus bagger, because that is clearly and important core of his values, agenda and platform.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
20. I sure hope so.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:29 PM
Jul 2013

Both him and his loony Lt. governor are extremists. Will the people of VA be stupid enough to elect them?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. His name alone is ironic
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jul 2013

I don't live in VA anymore, so I'm counting on the state's current residents to get rid of this guy.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
22. I hope that McAuliffe gets help from the DNC.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:31 PM
Jul 2013

He may not be anyone's favorite Democrat, but he'll be better than the other two RW nuts.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
24. The closet is not natural! Being who you are is natural.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013

God made me gay and if he or others can not handle my being gay that is their issue.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. Well, if it's any consolation, his campaign against oral and anal sex includes everybody.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

He just thinks those two things are icky.



I guess he's never gotten either one of them........

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
27. I still believe being Cuccinelli is against nature.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

Can't we do something with his name like they did with Santorum?

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
37. But I love Italian restaurants! I was thinking more along the lines of
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jul 2013

the hair and black gunk that comes up when you try and clean out the shower drain.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. Fine, you want to spend Virginia's tax dollars arresting everyone who has oral sex.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:56 PM
Jul 2013

Cool. Glad you're at least owning up to the Dominionist Agenda you're pushing.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
30. I believe if someone with views like Cuccinelli's is elected to public office, it is an
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:05 PM
Jul 2013

offense against nature and the election of any such person should be adjudicated null and void as against public policy and for the public good. In other words, up yours, sir: go peddle your pile of excrement elsewhere.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
38. My personal beliefs about the personal challenges of Douchenelli haven't changed.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

Anyone who wants to criminalize oral sex between consenting adults is a deranged, twisted pervert.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
44. Anyone who wants to criminalize any sexual act between consenting adults
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jul 2013

is one repressed, sick puppy. He should worry about his own sex life, that is if he has one. Which seems doubtful.........



vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
39. The writer Anne Lamott had a bit in one of her early books about dating a Republican...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jul 2013

That was pretty bad but she thought she might be able to overlook it, until she found out he would not do "that."
And that was a deal breaker. I almost fell off the bed laughing, in the middle of the night at my in -law's house.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. I think Cuccinelli is against nature.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:09 AM
Jul 2013

Keep doubling down you idiot, it is really working out for you!

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
50. List of animals displaying homosexual behavior (from Wiki)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jul 2013

List of animals displaying homosexual behavior

Mammals
Bison[16]
Brown Bear[17]
Brown Rat[18]
Cavy[18]
Caribou[19]
Cat (domestic)[20]
Cattle (domestic)[21]
Chimpanzee[22][23][24][25]
Common Dolphin[26]
Common Marmoset[27]
Dog[28]
Elephant[29]
Fox[30]
Giraffe[31][3][32]
Goat[16]
Horse (domestic)[33]
Human[34][35][36]
Koala[37]
Lion[34]
Orca[26]
Raccoon[38]




Birds
Barn Owl[39]
Chicken[40]
Common Gull[41]
Emu[42]
King Penguin[43]
Mallard[44]
Raven[45]
Seagull[46]




Fish
Amazon molly[48]
Bennett
Blackstripe topminnow[49]
Bluegill Sunfish[49]
Char[47]
Grayling[47]
European Bitterling[50]
Green swordtail[50]
Guiana leaffish[51]
Houting Whitefish[47]
Jewel Fish[52]
Least Darter (Microperca punctulata)[50]
Mouthbreeding Fish sp.[49]
Salmon spp.[53]
Southern platyfish[50]
Ten-spined stickleback[50]
Three-spined stickleback[50]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Nature disagrees!
 

Dwayne Hicks

(637 posts)
51. I would really
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:37 AM
Jul 2013

like to hear any supporters reasoning to this nonsense? I would love to hear how someone like him can claim "small government" and "liberty" while criminalizing blow jobs even for married couples. Hopefully VA has SOME sense!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
54. He alleges that it would stop pedophilia.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:31 AM
Jul 2013

When I read it my jaw went slack. Is this guy a total idiot? Yeah, let's outlaw sex that way we can prevent rapes.




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