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I Love This: THE MEDICAL STUDENTS OF HOWARD UNIVERSITY VS. THE WASHINGTON POST (Original Post) kpete Jul 2013 OP
Happy to be first K&R. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #1
CC: Geraldo Blue Owl Jul 2013 #2
Fuckin Geraldo. NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #3
And his sleazy moustache. Blue Owl Jul 2013 #6
It is a Seventies porn 'tash..... n/t annabanana Jul 2013 #21
whatever do you mean, annabanana? Skittles Jul 2013 #25
he heaven05 Jul 2013 #13
I was just going to say.. and fucking geraldo. the whole world who Cha Jul 2013 #31
Notsure of the backstory - what does the WaPo have to do with this? Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #4
THIS, MAYBE? kpete Jul 2013 #5
Could we not make whites have the same crime stats merely by actually arresting whites who DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #9
"yes" kpete Jul 2013 #10
Cohen heaven05 Jul 2013 #14
White people in NYC look suspicious when klook Jul 2013 #16
Pretty much a sure thing that financial "services" folk are dangerous criminals. mbperrin Jul 2013 #18
If they were African American stock workers in Florida, intheflow Jul 2013 #32
(Sigh) mbperrin Jul 2013 #36
If newspaper columnists ignore racism, they are fools klook Jul 2013 #15
I'd blame that fucktard Cohen maore than the Post ... meegbear Jul 2013 #19
Richard Cohen = a special kind of STUPID. alp227 Jul 2013 #26
Well, that's not surprising from a man liberalhistorian Jul 2013 #33
But does he know that there is actually more white on white crime malaise Jul 2013 #46
I'm not sure he'd give a shit if he DID know. liberalhistorian Jul 2013 #48
Ahh - I didn't see the earlier story. Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #34
Actually I think you look pissed off... Half-Century Man Jul 2013 #7
I had the good fortune to do some research at Howard last year carolinayellowdog Jul 2013 #8
Fucking brilliant hatrack Jul 2013 #11
cool!!!!!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2013 #12
very good. I hate the big, mainstream newspapers for the most part Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #17
Poverty, hopelessness and despair SCVDem Jul 2013 #20
Honestly, if we are going after the real criminals, why aren't they going after the wall street Mbrow Jul 2013 #22
That never occurs to the right wing vigilantes. yurbud Jul 2013 #30
it hasn't occurred to obama yet, either. nt tomp Jul 2013 #42
and it probably won't even after he leaves office and goes to work directly for them. yurbud Jul 2013 #49
K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #23
k&r HappyMe Jul 2013 #24
Cohen is a bully and a coward! Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #27
This is great. K/R Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #28
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #29
k&r n/t RainDog Jul 2013 #35
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #37
k&r Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #38
Everyone needs to recognize this: ReRe Jul 2013 #39
I do too. They have gone too far. A new Civil Rights movement is brewing.. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #40
Have you been keeping up with NC's "Moral Mondays"? ReRe Jul 2013 #41
Rev Barber is my new hero. The man is inspiring. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #47
You better, you better, you bet! Whooooooooooo! ReRe Jul 2013 #50
K&R forestpath Jul 2013 #43
... handmade34 Jul 2013 #44
I believe it's the case that criminal activity of the street type correlates to poverty, not Flatulo Jul 2013 #45
K&R! nt limpyhobbler Jul 2013 #51

Cha

(297,096 posts)
31. I was just going to say.. and fucking geraldo. the whole world who
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jul 2013

cares should get a picture with their hoodies and stuff in their collective face.

kpete

(71,981 posts)
5. THIS, MAYBE?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jul 2013

Yesterday Richard Cohen wrote this:

In New York City, blacks make up a quarter of the population, yet they represent 78 percent of all shooting suspects -- almost all of them young men. We know them from the nightly news.
Those statistics represent the justification for New York City's controversial stop-and-frisk program, which amounts to racial profiling writ large. After all, if young black males are your shooters, then it ought to be young black males whom the police stop and frisk.

Still, common sense and common decency, not to mention the law, insist on other variables such as suspicious behavior. Even still, race is a factor, without a doubt. It would be senseless for the police to be stopping Danish tourists in Times Square just to make the statistics look good.

I wish I had a solution to this problem. If I were a young black male and were stopped just on account of my appearance, I would feel violated. If the police are abusing their authority and using race as the only reason, that has got to stop. But if they ignore race, then they are fools and ought to go into another line of work.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-racism-vs-reality/2013/07/15/4f419eb6-ed7a-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/07/the-banality-of-richard-cohen-and-racist-profiling/277871/

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
9. Could we not make whites have the same crime stats merely by actually arresting whites who
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

Are committing the same crimes as blacks? All we fucking do is single out dark skinned people for this unequal treatment by law enforcement. If you only focus on and arrest people of one color, the statistics will be skewed in that direction. Did this Cohen get any kind of basic education before he was hired to write about stuff like this?

I could get higher crime stats for white people over black or brown people if I were to only profile, arrest and imprison white people. Then i could say the same shit as Cohen. Doesn't this occur to him?

How about this - for one year, profile whites in NYC just like the blacks, ie whatever they do that is "suspicious", if they are white they will get the cop treatment before a black person doing the same thing. And of course, law enforcement funds are not unlimited, and the crim justice legal system is jammed to the gills, so those resources are limited. So stopping and arresting all these whites will get you high numbers of whites due to only trolling whites, and less time willl be spent on black or brown people, who will suddenly appear to be models of lawmand order compared to those miscreant whites.

Tell me the stats in a years time. Will most of the crime have been committed by whites, simply because they are the main focus? Yes.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. Cohen
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:49 PM
Jul 2013

is slick, david duke type person. Goes all around corners with the story that ends in the same place. Blacks bad!

klook

(12,154 posts)
16. White people in NYC look suspicious when
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jul 2013

they are dressed in expensive business attire and walking briskly while talking on a cell phone. I figure those people are the ones most likely to be committing felonies on any given day.

So they should be stopped and frisked before they can defraud more 401(k) account owners, small business people, and widows.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
18. Pretty much a sure thing that financial "services" folk are dangerous criminals.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jul 2013

Can't we just shoot 'em in the leg while questioning to make sure they don't run off?

PLEEEEZE???

intheflow

(28,460 posts)
32. If they were African American stock workers in Florida,
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

anyone of us could probably shoot them in the leg, questioning their suspicious drinking ice tea at lunch in the park. But in NYC, the suit gives all financial people, regardless of race or creed, a free pass on all criminal activity and any questioning whatsoever. What a diverse, egalitarian culture Americans have.


klook

(12,154 posts)
15. If newspaper columnists ignore racism, they are fools
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
Jul 2013

and ought to go into another line of work.

Ugh, thanks for posting. What a jerk.

alp227

(32,015 posts)
26. Richard Cohen = a special kind of STUPID.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jul 2013

How does a paper like the WASHINGTON POST give this brainless fool ANY space?? Not only is he racist he is also INNUMERATE:

You will never need to kn have never once used it and never once even rued t not use it. You will never need to know—never mind know—how many boys it will take to mow a lawn if quits halfway and two more show up later—or some that. Most of math can now be done by a computer calculator.

liberalhistorian

(20,815 posts)
33. Well, that's not surprising from a man
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jul 2013

who had an affair with the crazy ditzhead national newswoman Jessica Savitch, who ended up driving her car into a river after yet another drink-or-drug-fueled binge, and drowning, then had little sensitivity toward how his wife might have felt about it.

He rightfully slams anti-semitism, but has no problem with any other racism or sexism or any other kind of discriminatory "ism".

liberalhistorian

(20,815 posts)
48. I'm not sure he'd give a shit if he DID know.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:56 AM
Jul 2013

People like him are all about promoting, perpetuating and maintaining the status quo and power structures, which means they need to continue to push this racist garbage.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
34. Ahh - I didn't see the earlier story.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jul 2013

Cohen's still a dick, apparently. Thanks for the link and explanation!!

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
8. I had the good fortune to do some research at Howard last year
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

and was hugely impressed by the staff but also the students and the scholarly atmosphere. So glad these medical students spoke up this way to a shameful column by Cohen.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. cool!!!!!!!!!
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013
light that candle in that long, dark, smelly tunnel of racial hate. Kudos to all of them.
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
17. very good. I hate the big, mainstream newspapers for the most part
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jul 2013

they are the tools of establishment to put a shiny patina on the corruption of our society.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. Poverty, hopelessness and despair
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jul 2013

I am white and 58. I have cash assets less than $300 and am stressed out.

Can you imagine this being your everyday life?

I need a job but abortion is more important.

Should I turn to crime or suicide?

That depends on a person's age I guess.

I lost it all in the real estate crash and recession.

Can you imagine never getting a decent education or chance to succeed?

Bred to fail and to be prison slave labor is how I see it.

This country has gone to shit!

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
22. Honestly, if we are going after the real criminals, why aren't they going after the wall street
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jul 2013

Scum bags? Good God they've done more to destroy this country then some poor guy on the street just trying to make a living.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
30. That never occurs to the right wing vigilantes.
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jul 2013

even though Wall Street is a far bigger threat to them than any of the "punks" Zimmerman was worried about.

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
27. Cohen is a bully and a coward!
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:19 PM
Jul 2013

One might ask Mr. Cohen if he has given much study to the issue of crime, the criminal justice system and incarceration rates. I would guess he has a cursory knowledge at best and this column is proof of that. His clinging to the rationale that "stop & frisk" is a necessity to prevent crime while wholly ignoring additional/alternative avenues to reduce crime among African-Americans is shameful given his perch in our modern media.

He is a coward because, as mentioned above, it appears he gives very little attention to the crimes of Wall Street in his columns.

Cheers to Howard College of Medicine!

Bravo!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
39. Everyone needs to recognize this:
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jul 2013

K&R

The bigots have ants in their pants about the change in demographics in this country. They (white bigots) are filled with fear at the thought of being in the minority in this country. They fear this, because they know how, for centuries, they have treated minorities. They are afraid that the new majority (of color) will treat them the same as they treated those of color for all those years. They are doing everything they can to demonize everyone of color, not to mention how they are trying to tamp down women of ALL colors.

The bigots fear this change that's coming so much that they have come up with all kinds of ways to try to slow their demise. Like the "Stand Your Ground" (license to kill ) Law. Like gutting the Voting Rights Act. Like the gutting of a woman's right to choose. Like throwing little kids out of Head Start, and gutting the Meals on Wheels program for the elderly. Like trying to abolish Food Stamps. Like doing their level best to gut the Dept of Education, and abolish Social Security and Medicare.

But how many of us think they might have pushed the envelope a little too far this time? I do.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
41. Have you been keeping up with NC's "Moral Mondays"?
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:04 AM
Jul 2013

Every time someone uploads a clip of their group, the crowd grows. And this past Monday was the largest crowd I've seen there yet. Rev Barber has the fire in him. A wonderful speaker.

I do think the tipping point has been reached. Absolutely too much going down in this country now. It's horrible that it has to get this bad before the people rise up.

mountain grammy

(26,613 posts)
47. Rev Barber is my new hero. The man is inspiring.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:36 AM
Jul 2013

From Moral Mondays to Austin, Tx. to the demonstrations protesting the Zimmerman verdict, I am inspired and energized.
Like the Civil Rights movement, this is about morality and doing the right thing. Every incident sparks new outrage and, I'm quite sure, the "morans" are outnumbered.
For the past few months, I've been donating whatever I can spare to the NC chapter of the NAACP.

Look out, America! There are many of us who have actually READ the Constitution and believe we can be a democracy with equality for all, and we won't stop till we get there.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
45. I believe it's the case that criminal activity of the street type correlates to poverty, not
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 08:59 AM
Jul 2013

skin color. Since more African Americans and Latinos are poor per capita than their Caucasian counterparts, it may appear that crime correlates to skin color.

The best way to reduce crime is to raise the income of the poor and legalize street drugs. People who have a decent living have no need to steal. Everyone who is willing to work hard should be rewarded with a living income that provides decent housing, healthy food, and the modern trappings that most of us enjoy. Income inequality is the biggest problem our society faces.

And the white-collar thieves on Wall Street do a lot more economic harm than some guy who rips off a Quickie Mart for $20,

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