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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:02 PM

McDonalds Tells Workers To Budget By Getting A Second Job And Turning Off Their Heat

McDonalds Tells Workers To Budget By Getting A Second Job And Turning Off Their Heat

By Annie-Rose Strasser on Jul 15, 2013 at 3:15 pm

McDonalds has partnered with Visa to launch a website to help its low-wage workers making an average $8.25 an hour to budget. But while the site is clearly meant to illustrate that McDonalds workers should be able to live on their meager wages, it actually underscores exactly how hard it is for a low-paid fast food worker to get by.

The site includes a sample”‘budget journal” for McDonalds’ employees that offers a laughably inaccurate view of what it’s like to budget on a minimum wage job. Not only does the budget leave a spot open for “second job,” it also gives wholly unreasonable estimates for employees’ costs: $20 a month for health care, $0 for heating, and $600 a month for rent. It does not include any budgeted money for food or clothing.



Basically every facet of this budget is unachievable. For an uninsured person to independently buy health care, he or she must shell out on average $215 a month — just for an individual plan. While some full-time McDonald’s workers do qualify for the company’s $14 a week health plan, that offer caps coverage at $10,000 a year and is often insufficient. If that person wants to eat, “moderate” spending will run them $32 a week for themselves, and $867 a month to feed a family of four. And if a fast food worker is living in a city? Well, New York City rents just reached an average of $3,000 a month.

The sample budget is also available in Spanish. On another section of the site, it concludes, “You can have almost anything you want as long as you plan ahead and save for it.”

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/07/15/2300321/mcdonalds-buget-low-wage/

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Reply McDonalds Tells Workers To Budget By Getting A Second Job And Turning Off Their Heat (Original post)
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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:07 PM

1. $20 for health insurance?

 

Should be like $200.

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Response to Mr. David (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:11 PM

7. I'm right behind you on that one.

 

I used to pay $350 for my son and myself. Up until I got laid off, that is.

And the rent/mortgage line is a joke too.

Oh hell, it's all a joke. A sick, sad joke.

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Response to matthews (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:12 PM

10. $550/600 is in line for a dump

 

One room dump with no AC here in Denver goes around $400-600.

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Response to Mr. David (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:50 PM

29. I have a pension, the last of the tier ones and I pay 40$ a month for dental and optical and nothing

for medical. I think. Its been a while. I am so glad I could eat shit for 27 years so the last 20 would be halfway decent. I am praying for the rest of you. It breaks my heart to think of the suffering these fuckers cause.

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Response to Mr. David (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:07 PM

50. Big Corporations are the new plantation owner's

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #50)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:12 PM

106. Shop and eat local! Boycott these obesity factories.

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Response to Emelina (Reply #106)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 03:23 PM

108. I have not step foot in a fast joint or walmart since 2004

If I need anything beyond food. I check Craig's list, thrift shops and eBay first. Although I don't like EBay much anymore.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:08 PM

2. Disgusting

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Response to thelordofhell (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:10 PM

52. Absolutely!

Excuse me. I have to go vomit now

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:08 PM

3. Their wage implies that THIS is the 2nd or 3rd job

How many workers there GET 135 hours a month?

Most fast food/service workers would jump for joy at 30+ hrs a week.

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:55 PM

30. I know a lady who with her jobs works 20 hours a day. She is almost always asleep working when I

see her and sometimes she hallucinates. She delivers papers in the early morning to start her day and when she's done, she pulls over and sleeps a moment or two. She will die 25 years too soon. Her kids are her life and she is America now. I won't be going to McDonalds again.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:10 PM

4. I wonder when we'll have a proposal for a law that discourages hiring people part time.

I can see some possibilities through the tax code to heavily discourage wide spread part time employment.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:12 PM

36. Good point.

If we could require some sort of benefits proportional to hours worked, I wonder if that would do the trick.

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Response to surrealAmerican (Reply #36)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:14 PM

56. Many countries

 

With nationalized health care of many types apply a tax on wages paid so all full and part time workers/companies pay in.

Not saying that a nationalized system is best but just showing one way it can be done.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:53 PM

111. That's a huge part of the problem. Note how the suggested budget just assumes multiple jobs!


It's not just cruel, it's sick. Anyone who thinks this is fine is insane.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:10 PM

5. excuse me while my head explodes.

 

I hate these people.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:11 PM

6. I saw this. It's freakin hilarious..

They teach you how to "budget". 2nd job.. $600 a month for rent... $100 a month for car and home insurance. $20 bucks a month for health care. Heating? FREE!
And they still come up with you need to make $15 an hour to survive.

Yes we are paying only half of what you need to live on in our totally fake and bizarre budget.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:12 PM

8. Who ever wrote this never had to live this.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:59 PM

49. Whoever wrote this shouldn't live.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #49)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:09 PM

51. You can't beat individuals to death for their pretensions.

But a national revolution might be an option.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:12 PM

9. That seems almost deliberately cruel n/t

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:15 PM

37. +1

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:54 PM

112. Yep. They're kicking they're own employees in the teeth.


First they pay them shit, then they don't ever let them work full time. Finally they tell them that the reason they can't make ends meet is because they are financially irresponsible.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:14 PM

11. 100 in savings per paycheck = 2,400 a year in savings

 

20 years of savings = 48,000 dollars. Which is the average wage for a middle class worker per year.

So save up for 20 years and have enough to by a new SUV. Wow, how pathetic.

McDonalds is the Wal Mart of junkfood.

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Response to Rex (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:31 PM

42. Only $1,200

 

This is a monthly budget. Hope they bring back the Yugo by the time we retire!!

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Response to lobodons (Reply #42)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:32 PM

44. I was going with two paychecks a month.

 

nt.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:19 PM

12. And what about child care costs? (nt)

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:20 PM

13. The contempt for the poor that these companies have is...astonishing.

They expect you to stay poor and like it.

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Response to Hong Kong Cavalier (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 11:55 AM

104. Their employees are just bodies taking up space, or worse yet, having to pay a person

reduces their assets. People are expendable, period. I get treated like crap at my temp job.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:26 PM

14. woohoo! $3.30 a day for food and gas.

 

hopefully they are either male or live in texas where tampons are outlawed since there's no money for that.

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Response to noamnety (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:56 AM

100. That wouldn't even buy you a gallon of gas almost anywhere in the country.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:26 PM

15. This has to be a 60 hours of work, minimum, per week.

Savings? Not going to happen.

This budget is absurd.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:48 PM

16. Why is heating at "0"?

Is this website regional? Somewhere you don't need heat or A/C? What are you getting for a car at $150 a month, with no provision ($$)for car repair? Do they assume everyone will get a second job?

This whole thing is absurd.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:02 PM

22. Possibly assumes subsidies

I've seen similar 'worksheets'



Notice food isn't considered an 'expense,' yet the price of food !!
Again, possibly assumes food assistance

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:16 PM

39. Maybe electric heater (covered by electric)? (nt)

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:39 PM

63. That barrel in your backyard full of burning wood you found in the alley is free

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:19 AM

102. There's no charge for heating in a "viaduct condo".

There's also no heating... or plumbing... or food...

These days there is plenty of companionship, tho. Sadly.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:51 PM

17. is that income before or after taxes, ss, etc ? nt

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:56 PM

18. If they're like Walmart, they probably assume their workers will go on government assistance.

Of course, they're not going to say that.

I'd love to see their CEO's monthly budget.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:57 PM

19. Many big box stores have this type of "advice" site.

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:00 PM

20. Walmart will help you apply for food stamps during orientation

I miss the good ol days when it was just highschool and a few college kids at the fast food places. I'm disheartened these days to see people of all ages working at fast food places.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:02 PM

21. Tell Mickey D

to put some damn meat on the Big Mac. The bun is hiding it

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:02 PM

23. “You can have almost anything you want as long as you plan ahead and save for it.”

 

Stop it..Stop it..You're killing me !!

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:09 PM

25. It's killing me too.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:04 PM

33. It's actually killing ALL of us....

sooner or later because THIS is what they expect from the work force, NOT just Mickey Dee workers.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:41 PM

64. I'll try to make this short: ... It's getting worse and I have my own proof.

 

I'm a Computer Tech (Microsoft and Linux certified & all that crap). Anyway, I only do house calls which works great for me and my customers. For years people have either paid me in cash or with a check.
In the past year, I've noticed more and more people are constantly asking me to "Hold their check" for 3-5 days sometimes a week or 2.

I'm talking about folks that live in everything from ordinary apartments to nice homes on the beach.

Rather scary.

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:12 PM

54. save long enough, you can even have heat in your home!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:07 PM

24. $150/ month for car payment? Are they fucking kidding???

That might be a great payment if you're driving a beat up 1983 Honda Accord. But any sort of modern vehicle - even a Nissan Versa -,you'd be looking at a minimum of a $300 / month payment.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:11 PM

26. This is crazy.

$20 a month for health care?! I spend more than that on bandaids alone!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:45 PM

28. 20 bucks

For health insurance
HAHAHAHAha for real?
and of course they don't dare factor in the cost of kids

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Response to Mkap (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:43 PM

82. I think by "healthcare"

that $20 is to cover aspirin, multivitamin, bandaids, toothpaste/floss, and store brand benedryl and maybe feminine hygiene products.

If so, the price isn't right. That costs more than $20.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:58 PM

31. So I guess "monthly spending money" includes daycare, groceries, vacations (ha!), pet care, etc.

I know, all those are luxuries -- you can always leave the kids in the car (which you're probably living in) or with a relative during your shift, go dumpster diving instead of grocery shopping, forgo vacations, abandon your pets, and so on.

What a fucking insult.

Meanwhile, you have to have $250,000 cold, hard cash on hand to even be considered worthy of owning a McDonald's franchise.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:03 PM

32. I suppose it is technically possible, but it would have to be in a very small community, and there

would have to so many other caveats that would make this nearly impossible.

See the real solution would be to make the 1st salary the same as the total salary, then if the spouse had another job, they would be actually making enough money to survive (in a midwestern community, at least).

Just not realistic what they have hypothesized.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:08 PM

34. Hello? FOOD?

I know you don't eat that much when you've died from the cold, but seriously...

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Response to nolabear (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:42 PM

65. Food Stamps

Cause y'know it's the 'Murican dream to work two jobs, 12 hours a day, and still qualify for food stamps..........

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Response to thelordofhell (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:34 PM

94. but being on food stamps is supposed to be evil now too

Republicans think that food stamps aren't necessary because some poor people are fat, right?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:09 PM

35. If you turn off the heat in the winter, your pipes freeze and then burst.

How do you pay for that?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:15 PM

38. this bullshit has to stop. when is the revolt? Occupy everywhere.

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:18 PM

40. But..but doncha know? If McDonalds had to pay a living wage,

we would have to pay $10 for a cheeseburger and fries! Oh the humanity!

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:21 PM

41. There so-called "budget" ideas are more full of holes than...

The Titanic.

And, we all know how well that turned out for the poor and middle class.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:31 PM

43. 11.89 per hour

That's what the sample income works out to for a 40 hour per week job.

The fact that they had to use two jobs to make the numbers work tells you everything you need to know about this expense worksheet.

Sad.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:33 PM

45. The purveyors of pink slime are obscene.

 

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:39 PM

46. So I take it

A. that I live with at least three other people to achieve this rent (here in Los Angeles)
B. that I have a car loan on a 1996 toyota (even a basic car at $22,500 with ZERO interest is going to run $360 a month)
C. that I only have catastrophic health insurance (if that for $20 a month)
4. that my car (above) gets about 50 miles to the galleon so I don't have to fill it up at $4.19 a galleon out here in LA
E. that the car/home insurance listed only covers my car (and I don't have renter's insurance to protect my possessions from loss)
(I am a top tier driver at my insurance company and I drive a Prius and still my insurance is $1300 a year)
F. that, naturally, giving up food/heat/a movie/an app will allow me to SAVE $100 a month

I hope eventually they will be embarrassed that they actually published this.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:55 PM

47. a financial planner too!

they offer a discount for financial advice from Ameriprise! Yeah!

Ameriprise Financial
Receive a free consultation with a certified financial planner plus $100 off the cost of a formalized financial plan. To receive more information contact 1-800-437-3500 and let the Financial Advisor know that you work for McDonald's.

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #47)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:45 PM

66. I can't decide which of these to do:

This or this

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Response to Brigid (Reply #66)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:49 PM

67. how about

or will that get the NSA on my back?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 06:58 PM

48. Your second job needs to be selling drugs or high paid escort.

They forgot to tell you that.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:11 PM

53. Going to need three jobs, not two.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:13 PM

55. The only person this would actually work for is....

... a teenager/young adult who was too unlucky to go to college and is living at home with very understanding parents. And that's for a combination of 2 effing jobs? Slave wages, folks. This is slavery. And fuck anyone who thinks it isn't. Look at it. One can NOT look at that and see anything but slave wages.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:20 PM

57. Corporate PR at its worst

Vile stuff. They must believe their employees are like small children who need guidance. Partnered with Visa too. Jesus these big Corps make me sick

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #58)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:40 PM

113. + a gazillion.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #58)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 07:42 PM

114. omg

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:23 PM

59. Wow.

 

Their "budget" doesn't even reflect the real world.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:24 PM

60. Am I just not seeing "food" or "groceries" or something along those lines?

What kind of a crazy budget is that? 80 hours a week of work, is that hte assumption?

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:27 PM

61. Or you COULD, and I'm just dart-throwing here . . . PAY YOUR WORKERS MORE.

NUTJOB Commie talk, I know . . . I know . . .

It'd mean TWO dollar menus instead of a Dollar Menu. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu . . ..

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #61)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 07:38 PM

62. Maybe assuming they qualify for food stamps?

Many low wage workers do. But I can see why they wouldn't want to come out and say that. It makes them look bad.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:40 PM

68. omg...I keep seeing posts I think are from the Onion...but, they are real!

Thanks Catherina...just when one thinks they've seen too much crazy...another travisty raises it's head that would have been a joke some years ago...but these days, is all too real.

This is so demeaning to see this kind of thing going on in America these days.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:45 PM

69. $600 in rent/ mortgage in this part of the country????????

With that you don't even get a closet. The deeded parking spots in most bldgs. in my town are $25,000 plus. Don't even ask how much does the apt. cost. If we are talking a one family home, it'll set you back over a $1M.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #69)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:59 AM

74. I live someplace with very low rent

and $600 will get you a very inexpensive apartment. But just barely.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:26 AM

76. That's good.

I live in NJ on the edge of the Hudson river facing NYC. I don't think that you can get any rentals below $1,200 in this town and that would be for a small apt.

Here's a sample of the value of properties in Hoboken.

http://realestate.aol.com/homes-for-sale-listings/Hoboken_NJ?flv=1#/sortby-5

http://www.weichert.com/NJ/Hudson/Hoboken/

http://www.coldwellbankermoves.com/real_estate/New_Jersey/Hoboken.htm

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Response to Beacool (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:58 PM

79. I guess what we take away from this

is that if you work at McD's, you'd better live somplace well below the average as far as rent goes. But even then, lots of these line items don't make any sense at all. You'd starve, for one thing, and you'd better never get sick.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #79)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:54 PM

84. In this whole tri-state area the cost of living is very expensive.

That's why in NYC fast food workers went on strike some months ago. They wanted their pay to be increased to $15 an hour. It didn't happen, but they put up a valiant fight.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:27 PM

97. Same here.

But places with cheap rent tend to have higher utilities. I couldn't imagine a 90 dollar power bill. I can't even imagine a bill lower than twice that.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:57 PM

70. And that's before the *debit card fees* on your PAYCHECK.

They've apparently since dropped the scheme.

As a lawsuit against a local McDonald's franchise gains national attention, federal authorities are investigating the company's practice of forcing employees to be paid only by debit cards that come with an assortment of fees.

Meanwhile, lawyers for the franchise owners say the lawsuit's contention that employees incur fees on all transactions is wrong and there are several ways workers could access their money for free.

West Pittston-based attorney Michael Cefalo recently filed the class action lawsuit in Luzerne County Court on behalf of Natalie Gunshannon, a Dallas Twp. woman who quit her job at the McDonald's in Shavertown after the company issued her a debit card as pay and refused to pay her by check or direct deposit.

Days after the suit was filed and garnered national media attention, Mr. Cefalo said an investigator with the U.S. Department of Labor called his law office.

http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/feds-investigating-mcdonald-s-franchise-over-payroll-debit-cards-1.1509690

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2013, 09:13 PM

71. Well ain't that some McShit

n/t

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:18 AM

72. You may not need heating because of the insulating layer you may develop? (NT)

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:57 AM

73. corporate

lies. tis the american way.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:19 AM

75. and next...

they'll pull a 'Walmart' and show how their employees can get on public assistance....

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:30 AM

77. Corporate propaganda in the ongoing class war. nt

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:42 AM

78. McDonald's - They're "Lovin' it!" nt

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:05 PM

80. I guess I'm the only one who clicked on the link, but why do they have to lie Catherina

The image you posted is from the "think progress" site where they scrubbed the Heat to 0



If you click on the actual link to the site it shows heating at $50





More fail, why people have to lie about McDonalds being a shitty job is mind-boggling to me. Way to go, progress people LOL

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #80)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:37 PM

85. Because they didn't. They updated the English one and still haven't corrected the Spanish one

The FAIL is on the part of people who are so hateful of "progress people" that they leap on the first chance they think they spotted to accuse them of lying.



and just in case the change that one too, let me post a snapshot of how it appears today



Google cache still has the old one.

Heating = 0

Monthly spending total = 800

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Response to Catherina (Reply #85)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 03:51 PM

86. So some low level IT dude, Maybe Snowden!

updated the file with Version 4.6 when he should have used 5.1...


Got it...Unless you think the ThinkProgress blog got them to change it

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:09 PM

81. $100 other? Food, gas, other supplies. Not enough for even a week

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #81)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:36 PM

88. What do you mean?

You spend more than $20 in food per week? No wonder Americans are so fat!!






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Response to Beacool (Reply #88)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:50 PM

90. lol. Forgive me. From now on I'll stick to Ramen noodles and taco bell

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #90)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:04 PM

92. And the dollar menu of, where else, McDonald's.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:50 PM

83. Fuck you, McDonald's.

 

YOU turn off the heat.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 04:08 PM

87. “You can have almost anything you want as long as you plan ahead and save for it.”

 

lies of the ruling class revisited...

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:42 PM

89. Did I miss the line for "Food"? I've read through it 3 times.Or is food under "Other" at $100/month?

Rent? In this town you can scarcely get a single room in a shared home for $600.

That budget is disgusting.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:06 PM

93. Needn't read any further than "second job"

This is the world that corporate America wants.

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Response to Blasphemer (Reply #93)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:43 PM

95. A world where, with the proper Protestant ethic,

“You can have almost anything you want as long as you plan ahead and save for it.”

There are no words to express my disgust for for corporate America and its friends. When you travel around poor countries and watch poor, hard-working, barefoot people wailing because they can't afford Monsanto's rice for their children to eat, the anger burns. And now they're destroying what charade they had left by totally abandoning the American worker. I hope people wake up quick.

Second job? Coming to a bubble near you, everywhere soon.

Thanks. I had the same reaction/

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Response to Blasphemer (Reply #93)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:27 AM

98. They want everybody working 2-3 part time jobs through a temp agency.

No more working one full time job as a company employee with full benefits like health insurance or paid sick days.

(MoneyWatch) The job market is looking up. According to a new survey conducted for job search site CareerBuilder, 44 percent of U.S. employers intend to hire full-time workers in the second half of 2013, while 25 percent will hire part-timers and 31 percent will hire temporary employees. Good news, right?

Not really. While everyone is pleased to see that hiring of permanent workers is at least relatively stable and not shrinking, the increase in part-time and temporary employees is part of a worrying trend. The U.S. now has 2.7 million temporary workers -- more than ever before in its history. These are people who typically lack health care benefits and any paid sick leave or time off.

Meanwhile, those who work in construction and manufacturing are twice as likely to be injured as permanent employees and, of course, when they're off work they aren't being paid at all. In retail, temp jobs don't produce a living wage, especially in the big expensive metropolitan areas where they're largely concentrated. Yet this represents the growth sector in American employment, with temp jobs growing faster than any other kind of paid work.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-57592784/surge-in-temp-jobs-may-hinder-recovery/

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:45 PM

96. Hey, just start your own business. Borrow money from your parents if you have to.

Or become an investment banker. They make lots of money. Really, why choose to work at McDonald's when you could get a job on Wall Street? Duh.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:18 AM

99. This was called the "Let Them Eat Cake Budget" in France at one time.

It wasn't workable back then. either.

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 09:15 AM

101. On a $20 monthly healthcare outlay it would take 16 and 2/3 years to pay off one average ER visit.

I doubt the Hospital Billing Office is going to want to wait that long.

Well, I guess if you only get one visit to the ER in your life... Better choose wisely.


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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 11:19 AM

103. The new service economy of the future; conditions in a country

that is certainly not number 1 in the World.

The State of Texas will now offer a high school diploma that is not acceptable for college entrance. Students do not have to be on the 4 x 4 plan of college readiness plan any longer. They can just work 2 jobs when they get out of high school.

http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/curriculum/2013/05/testing_rolled_back_graduation_pathway_revised_under_Texas_bill.html

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 02:09 PM

105. kick

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Response to Catherina (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2013, 06:47 PM

110. What I find most interesting here are a couple of assumptions they make

First is that a minimum-wage employee who needs to work two jobs to survive is able to save money.

Second is that this employee drives a financed car rather than using some combination of public transportation, skateboard commuting (don't laugh, we have three employees who get to work in this exact way), bicycling, walking and driving the most reliable shitbox they could find on Craigslist one morning.

Third is that the same employee, who is spending $27 per day on ramen and soap, is spending $100 per month on "cable/phone" rather than using rabbit ears and a $25 Tracfone card.

But yeah, someone at their corporate headquarters is smokin' crack to come up with this shit.

On edit: The $600 per month for rent is probably high, because many of the people in this income situation have roommates and share expenses.

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