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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:26 PM Jul 2013

Are you from Florida?

In some of the discussions it'd be interesting to see how many people would actually be affected a proposed boycott.


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I live in Florida!
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I don't live in Florida!
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I don't know where I live, but it looks like Florida!
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Are you from Florida? (Original Post) el_bryanto Jul 2013 OP
Not any more... Pelican Jul 2013 #1
I suppose i could say I didn't used to be. el_bryanto Jul 2013 #2
the proposed boycott will not effect the 99% olddots Jul 2013 #3
If you boycott Shecky's Pizza doesn't that hurt the people who work at Shecky's Pizza? el_bryanto Jul 2013 #7
I was looking out my window (here in Miami) a few minutes ago.. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #4
You sure you don't have a new pope? ..nt TeeYiYi Jul 2013 #8
LOL Scurrilous Jul 2013 #10
I used to live in Florida BainsBane Jul 2013 #5
Never lived there, but I did stay in a Holliday Inn Express premium Jul 2013 #6
I live in Florida. It's fucked up, but I still love it. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #9
But the trial venue was moved to red, red Simi Valley specifically because they knew Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #14
Which just proves that California can be just as racist as everywhere else. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #15
That proves nothing of the sort. It proves that angry white people rarely convict cops Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #16
States aren't racist. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2013 #19
LOL! Says the guy from Floriduh. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #20
I'm from Florida too by the way. And that's not how you spell Florida el_bryanto Jul 2013 #24
It's not a mistake. n/t ornotna Jul 2013 #32
California has an ugly history of racism, just like almost every other state npk Jul 2013 #21
I know they did, and they still have no shortage of problems, but perhaps you can tell Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #25
I am not trying to compare them. npk Jul 2013 #27
No argument at all. But this started with the claim that the Rodney King trial proved it Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #29
or Abner Louima in blue, blue New York DrDan Jul 2013 #34
I did briefly when I was a kid in the '50s. It was a quick lesson in unvarnished racism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #11
I grew up in Miami, FL., lived there most of my life, RebelOne Jul 2013 #12
Marietta? I lived there for a few years. It had its issues but was still way better than Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #22
No, I live in Woodstock, just about next door to Marietta. RebelOne Jul 2013 #30
I liked Woodstock better and nearly bought a house in Sandy Springs, but I got the chance Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #35
Yes and DU has been a un welcomed place for me the past couple of days. William769 Jul 2013 #13
Take heart - at least for the moment we make up 32% of DU nt el_bryanto Jul 2013 #18
Don't worry, you're not the only one getting tired of the sanctimonious crap Rstrstx Jul 2013 #36
Well said. Scurrilous Jul 2013 #37
Hell ya I live in floreda we'r usualy pretty easie to spot. BlueJazz Jul 2013 #17
Used to. Ft. Lauderdale. 20 years. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #23
Try "Have you ever lived in Florida?" Warpy Jul 2013 #26
I guess the point is who would be affected by a Boycott el_bryanto Jul 2013 #33
a boycott of Florida is idiotic handmade34 Jul 2013 #28
I live in Florida - have for the past 30 years - but do not expect to be affected by a boycott DrDan Jul 2013 #31

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. I suppose i could say I didn't used to be.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:33 PM
Jul 2013

I am a californian - but been living here 17 years

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
3. the proposed boycott will not effect the 99%
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:46 PM
Jul 2013

We boycott the tyranny and oppression of race creed & color .

all the posts from people from Florida who believe non Floridians want to hurt them personally come from a valid fear that things are screwed up .
If you boycott " Shecky's Pizza for human rights violations it is to help the citizen/employees not to hurt them .Boycotting is about a call to reason instead of fighting in the streets or being able to blow a kid away and walk.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. If you boycott Shecky's Pizza doesn't that hurt the people who work at Shecky's Pizza?
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:51 PM
Jul 2013

Assuming they don't cave?

And in this case, how would Florida cave - or convince you they had changed? Vote in a Democrat Governor?

Which would be a good idea - rick scott is a jackass.

Bryant

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
4. I was looking out my window (here in Miami) a few minutes ago..
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jul 2013

...and noticed what appeared to be white smoke coming off the roof of my building. Running outside to save myself, I was relieved to see it was only steam. As it alternately pours rain then turns hot and sunny, the accumulated moisture on the roof heats to steam and wafts by my window.

Yeah Florida. Free schvitz.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
6. Never lived there, but I did stay in a Holliday Inn Express
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:50 PM
Jul 2013

in Miami one time.

I'll stay in my beloved Nevada.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,854 posts)
9. I live in Florida. It's fucked up, but I still love it.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jul 2013

What happened regarding the verdict is not specific to Florida in any way in the least.

Lest we forget a little case involving the beating of Rodney King in blue, blue California.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. But the trial venue was moved to red, red Simi Valley specifically because they knew
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jul 2013

that there was no way the cops could escape justice in LA. That was no small part why the riots occurred.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. That proves nothing of the sort. It proves that angry white people rarely convict cops
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jul 2013

no matter how obvious the crime. I suppose it also shows that one can find a community of angry white people in any part of the nation.

But pretending that the state of California is just as racist as the state of Floriduh is simply absurd.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,854 posts)
19. States aren't racist.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jul 2013

Neither California nor Florida (or "Floriduh" as you call it) are racist in and of themselves. For that matter, neither are Mississippi, Alabama or Idaho.

Some have more concentrated areas of racist people in them (i.e. Mississippi, Alabama, Idaho).

But no state is immune.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
20. LOL! Says the guy from Floriduh.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jul 2013

And your state worked very hard to earn that variation on it's name, as you're proving.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
24. I'm from Florida too by the way. And that's not how you spell Florida
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jul 2013

Someone who spells Florida like that might get mistaken for an idiot.

Bryant

npk

(3,701 posts)
21. California has an ugly history of racism, just like almost every other state
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

People will allways attempt to justify that their state is better than another. I have lived in California and Florida and have family in both states and ugly racial events have occurred in both and still do.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
25. I know they did, and they still have no shortage of problems, but perhaps you can tell
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jul 2013

us all about CA wiping tens of thousands of black voters from the rolls. Or how they followed that up by electing the SOS that did it to the House of Representatives. Or maybe the town of Rosewood that was razed. Or the uninvestigated lynchings, or a thousand other examples of institutionalized racism carried out, enforced, and/or then covered up by the state government...

Please. If you are indeed familiar with both places you know full well that there is no comparison.

npk

(3,701 posts)
27. I am not trying to compare them.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

If you are asking where I would rather live, then yes I would choose California over Florida every day of the week and twice on Sunday. My sister lives in Southern California and I stayed with her for several years. I have also stayed with friends in Sacramento, and I can tell you that depending on what part of Sacramento I was in, it definitely reminded me of parts of the Florida panhandle that I spent my childhood in and many aspects of my time in both places were frighteningly similar.

I am saying that racial injustice is a national problem still, and not just a regional problem. Obviuilsy there have been more than a few high profile case in Florida recently, but that does not make the issue of racial injustice any less prevalent or less noteworth any whee else in the country.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
29. No argument at all. But this started with the claim that the Rodney King trial proved it
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jul 2013

was the same in Cali as it is in FL.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
11. I did briefly when I was a kid in the '50s. It was a quick lesson in unvarnished racism.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jul 2013

The school bus I was on stopped for a signal. A bunch of kids leaned out the window and shouted "Nigger!" and spat on a old Black man with a cane. Later, when I was in class, the nice grandmotherly looking teacher announced, "We will never let Niggers in our school!"

1959

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
12. I grew up in Miami, FL., lived there most of my life,
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jul 2013

but now live in Georgia, just northwest of Atlanta. I hated that state and was so glad to leave it.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
22. Marietta? I lived there for a few years. It had its issues but was still way better than
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jul 2013

Floriduh. I was the FNG at SCO Consulting and so was the one that always had to do the jobs down there. Nobody else would go down there, even for a nice bonus. I still have occasional nightmares about being stuck in that shithole for weeks on end.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
30. No, I live in Woodstock, just about next door to Marietta.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:46 PM
Jul 2013

I worked in Marietta for 13 years, just across the street from Dobbins Air Reserve Base. And yes, I lived in Miami, and I call it the hell hole of the South.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
35. I liked Woodstock better and nearly bought a house in Sandy Springs, but I got the chance
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jul 2013

to move to LA on the companies dime, so...

almost 15 years later I made the biggest mistake of my life and left my adopted hometown.

Sundays kind of sucked as the Air Guard started flying the A-6s out of Dobbins at 6AM, and those planes had no noise control at all, but overall it was a good place.

In all the places I've lived and worked (a lot of them all over the country), I've never found anyplace else where the black and white communities had reached as equitable a accommodation to the differences. There were still problems of course, but with the exception of Freaknik every year there was a pretty easy alliance/agreement to just leave each other alone. Being from the west and willing to adapt to their respective cultures, I had great times going back and forth between both worlds.

William769

(58,632 posts)
13. Yes and DU has been a un welcomed place for me the past couple of days.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jul 2013

Especially for a liberal Floridian (yes we do exist, and more than you would be able to guess).

Rstrstx

(1,593 posts)
36. Don't worry, you're not the only one getting tired of the sanctimonious crap
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

Blue staters who think their state is immune to racism or bad jury decisions really have their head up their arse. They might want to watch that episode of 'What would you do?' from Central Park to see the reactions when a white boy, an ethnic boy, and a white girl each try to steal a bicycle before giving themselves a congratulatory pat on the back for living in their beloved jewel of a "blue" state.

Boycott Florida (or GA/MS/LA/TX/AZ etc) and you'll be boycotting the places in the country where many minorities live. Would you really rather spend your money in one of Mr Trump's Manhattan hotels in January or stay at a mom and pop owned place in Clearwater? And don't think for a second your money will get out of "Republican" hands, god that's so stupid, the Marriot's will take your money anywhere in the country, they don't care where, and give it to whichever political candidate who will further their agenda. What you will be doing is hurting a lot of people who could use some help but oh no, no no no no no I can't go to Florida because, umm, well, ummm, I don't agree with six women down there.

For the record I'm not from Florida but love parts of the state. Yes some areas are crazy but try taking a nice beach vacation in California or Oregon (can you say hypothermia?). Believe it or not some of us actually like the tropics and its weather and wonderful plants and creatures and FL is the only place in the lower 48 where you can find them. Sure Puerto Rico and Hawaii are nicer but see how well your Buick does getting to those places. It's a unique state, where else can you see North America dissolve into the Caribbean? Anyone who can't see the uniqueness of the state has absolutely NO appreciation of nature or ecosystems. It's really sad to see so-called "enlightened" people who think the country would be better off if we didn't have the Everglades because it has, you know, alligators and mosquitos. It scares me to death to think what they would want to do with many of the other places on the planet which aren't deemed worthy.

Warpy

(113,215 posts)
26. Try "Have you ever lived in Florida?"
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jul 2013

I was born there and I had to spend a lot of time there when my parents retired there but I never lived there. They left shortly after I was born.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
33. I guess the point is who would be affected by a Boycott
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jul 2013

I guess in that context "Who has family in Florida they might visit" would be a good question.

Bryant

handmade34

(23,306 posts)
28. a boycott of Florida is idiotic
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jul 2013

racial profiling, lax gun laws, Republican governors, bad legislation, etc... are SERIOUS problems throughout the United States... why don't we gather and together fight those things that are bad all over the United States...

real people live in Florida just as they do all over... call for a boycott is beyond nonsensical

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
31. I live in Florida - have for the past 30 years - but do not expect to be affected by a boycott
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jul 2013

nothing more than a "gonna take my ball and go home" gesture

it'll fizzle by this time next week

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