The Zimmerman jury verdict versus the OJ Simpson murder trial jury verdict.

[Nye Bevan]

Two contentious trials and contentious verdicts.

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	I respect the jury verdict in the Zimmerman case, and I respected the jury verdict in the OJ Simpson case.
	5 (38%)
	I respect the jury verdict in the Zimmerman case but I did NOT respect the jury verdict in the OJ Simpson case.
	1 (8%)
	I do NOT respect the jury verdict in the Zimmerman case, but I respected the jury verdict in the OJ Simpson case.
	1 (8%)
	I do NOT respect the jury verdict in either the Zimmerman case OR the OJ Simpson case.
	6 (46%)
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[Bonobo]

1. So far, everyone I have seen those brings up the OJ trial for comparison

has been a total asshole. I'm not saying you are one, but that has been the pattern.

[Nye Bevan]

2. Oh, many people here consider me to be a total asshole. Or worse. Probably mostly worse.

But I really don't give the tiniest shit.

[2ndAmForComputers]

18. If you didn't

You wouldn't have posted this OP.

[Nye Bevan]

20. I think you meant to say "If you did" (nt)

[2ndAmForComputers]

21. The grammar is correct. So's the pattern's hit rate.

100%.

[Nye Bevan]

23. So if I "didn't give a shit" what people think of me, I "wouldn't have posted" the OP?

Because that makes no sense to me.

Or did you mean if I didn't NOT give a shit what people think of me?

[2ndAmForComputers]

17. The pattern stays with a 100% hit rate, of course.

[Bjorn Against]

3. This is much worse than the OJ verdict

In the case of OJ they ruled not guilty because they thought there was a chance he did not kill anyone, the jury never believed the murder could have been justified. I am not saying the verdict in the OJ case was correct but I can respect it because they thought there was reasonable doubt.

The Zimmerman case is different because there is no dispute on the fact that Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, yet people are actually saying it was justified. Believing a killing is justified is worse than incorrectly believing that a guilty person did not commit the killings they were accused of.

[Jenoch]

6. While sometimes referred to as

justifiable homicide, what happened in this case is that the prosecution did not prove their case (that it was not self-defense) beyond a reasonable doubt, which is what happened in the O.J. case.

[Bjorn Against]

7. The only way to get to a not guilty version is suggesting the killing may have been justified.

There is no doubt that Zimmerman killed Trayvon, Zimmerman's entire defense was on the basis that he believed the killing was justified. That is not what happened in the OJ case.

[Jenoch]

8. Actually, the defense never had

to prove that the shooting was justified. The prosecutor needed to prove their case 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Remember innocent until proven guilty? (Although innocent is not really relevant.)

[Bjorn Against]

9. George Zimmerman killed an unarmed child, it was not justified. Period.

There was no reasonable doubt to anyone besides racist gun nuts, it is absolutely sick that anyone would try to defend what Zimmerman did. Zimmerman killed Martin, not one person disputes it. There are sick assholes who try to defend it, but no one disputes the fact that Zimmerman is a killer.

[Jenoch]

11. I have never defended Zimmerman

and he certainly did kill Martin. I wish he had not done so.

"...it is absolutely sick that anyone would try to defend what Zimmerman did..."

I disagree. Everyone deserves a defense. It is part of our constitution.

[Bjorn Against]

12. A defense in court sure, defense lawyers have to do their job.

But all the disgusting assholes who try to justify this shit online are a bunch of racists who support child murder.

[Jenoch]

14. I don't know for sure if those

saying Zimmerman was not guilty of murder are all "racists who support child murder." I believe that is emotional hyperbole. I understand you frustration, however.

[Bjorn Against]

15. I think that is a fair description of those who take up Zimmerman's cause

I stand by what I said, Zimmerman supporters are racist child murder supporters.

[Jenoch]

25. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

[Politicalboi]

10. 9 months of evidence

And a few hours of deliberating. They wanted to go to Vegas after all. OJ should have been tried in Santa Monica where the crime happened. But Gil Garcetti thought it be nice if OJ were tried in L.A. What a mistake that was. I have NO respect for OJ jury or Casey Anthony's jury or this one.

[Bjorn Against]

16. I am not saying the verdict was the correct one

I honestly don't even really know the facts of the OJ case or the Casey Anthony case so I really can't judge their innocence or guilt. The reason I can still say I respect the verdict however is that in neither of those cases did anyone claim the killings were justified that I am aware of. The position of people defending OJ were saying that he wasn't the killer, they may well have been wrong but at least their view was based on actual belief of innocence rather than claiming the victims deserved to die.

I respect most jury verdicts, this one however disgusts me.

[treestar]

4. I respect the jury verdict in that GZ should not go to jail

He stood trial and was acquitted.

Which does not mean that I don't think the jurors had their heads up their ass. Like the ones in the OJ case.

Nothing is perfect. Especially with race involved in America. We need to get a grip on that in this country.

Having a black president may have helped some but obviously was not a cure-all. People still go around being scared of unknown ordinary black men.

[Bake]

5. One similarity between the two cases

The prosecution blew it in both cases.

Bake

[HolyMoley]

13. O.J case

Jury reached a correct verdict because of police misconduct and tampering with evidence.

Zimmerman case, jury reached a correct verdict because prosecution failed to prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Azathoth]

19. Sums it up n/t

[dsc]

22. I respect both verdicts

both juries did their job. In the OJ case, they had doubts as to the trust worthiness of the people who gathered the evidence, and had damn good reason to have those doubts. In the Zimmerman case, they had a very badly written law to work with and applied it the way it is written.

[olddots]

24. N.T.

N.T.

[arcane1]

27. Every white person I've talked to (myself included) is furious

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. There are some white people who view this trial as revenge for OJ's acquittal.