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“17 years and 22 days forever……” (Original Post) Cha Jul 2013 OP
K&R Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #1
Hey Tarheel.. Cha Jul 2013 #2
RIP to Trayvon Summer Hathaway Jul 2013 #3
Mahalo Summer~ Cha Jul 2013 #5
I do hope madokie Jul 2013 #4
I can imagine madokie.. Cha Jul 2013 #6
Actually, I thought Z sat with an impassive blank look the days I watched. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #22
Kickin' it for Trayvon Cha Jul 2013 #7
“This case isn’t about standing your ground. It’s about staying in your car.” jtuck004 Jul 2013 #8
Also excellent from John Guy.. thank you, jtuck Cha Jul 2013 #10
+1000 In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #13
K/R CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #9
Mahalo CakeGrrl~ Cha Jul 2013 #11
Kicked & Recommended In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #12
I know, In The Wind.. Cha Jul 2013 #14
When will the hatred end? In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #17
That's one reason why Cha Jul 2013 #18
That is why good people cannot turn their backs to the truth. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #19
That's exactly what Z was doing to Cha Jul 2013 #20
Clearly Z needed psychiatric help before he did the unacceptable crime of taking a life. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #21
k&R Whisp Jul 2013 #15
Mahalo Cha Jul 2013 #16
I think it should read 16 years and 22 days.. boston bean Jul 2013 #23
Trayvon was born Feb 5, 1995 and Cha Jul 2013 #24
he had turned 17 22 days earlier... boston bean Jul 2013 #25
John Guy's math is correct... IphengeniaBlumgarten Jul 2013 #28
No wait. tblue Jul 2013 #30
May justice be served. sheshe2 Jul 2013 #26
I know, she.. Cha Jul 2013 #27
Damn. tblue Jul 2013 #29
I know.. it's senseless. Cha Jul 2013 #31

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. I do hope
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:26 AM
Jul 2013

The Jury wipes that smile off of the murderers face. During the trial it was so evident that zimmerman feels no remorse for what he did. In his little mind he sees himself as someone who did his part to rid the planet of one of the undesirables. Trouble is he is the undesirables himself not the kid he murdered in cold blood. I think the Jury will see it that way too and give him life without the possibility of parole.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
6. I can imagine madokie..
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:33 AM
Jul 2013

I didn't see it but, by all accounts it looks like he didn't even have the brains to try and hide his sense of smug "superiority".

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. “This case isn’t about standing your ground. It’s about staying in your car.”
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:09 AM
Jul 2013

Also John Guy. Good closing, though I wish they had emphasized more about the time before the fight.

We will see what happens.

The one thing I heard that really gave me pause in all this was a black commentator on tv, (I just caught a bit of him, I think it was on MSNBC) after the ignorant police of Sanford came on threatened black people that post-trial violence "wouldn’t be tolerated". (People just like Zimmerman - no wonder he walked at first). The commentator pointed out that most "riots" by blacks are really minor disturbances in the grand scheme of things. The really ugly, big riots come when black people don't get something they expected.

But, he said, in this country, they no longer expect justice, so he doubted there would be much of a backlash for a not guilty verdict.

That's a hell of an indictment for our country. I would think it's sad, but it just pisses me off that most Americans really don't give a shit, and make it possible through their inaction and acceptance.

They say manufacturing is dead, but we manufacture hate on a daily basis, and I haven't seen that decline at all.


Cha

(295,543 posts)
10. Also excellent from John Guy.. thank you, jtuck
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:23 AM
Jul 2013

I have to disagree with the Black commentator.. I think there will be a tremendous amount of outburst if Z gets off with no accountability.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
18. That's one reason why
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:36 AM
Jul 2013

Z needs to be held accountable. This was a blatant hate crime no matter how many excuses he's putting forth. He can't get away with it. It's not okay.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
20. That's exactly what Z was doing to
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:56 AM
Jul 2013

to Trayvon Martin. Big ol bully that went deadly.

thank you for the vid, ITW.. It's really educational and vitally important to go Viral. The more we're aware the better chance to save a child. so sad but necessary to know. So glad this was made!

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
21. Clearly Z needed psychiatric help before he did the unacceptable crime of taking a life.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:02 AM
Jul 2013

So many people are suffering inside they lash out at those who cannot defend themselves.
IMO: This problem originated in his childhood.

boston bean

(36,181 posts)
23. I think it should read 16 years and 22 days..
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:06 AM
Jul 2013

still, get the point, I thought his closing was moving and strong.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
24. Trayvon was born Feb 5, 1995 and
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:33 AM
Jul 2013

passed on Feb 26, 2012. Looks like it should read "17 years and 21 days", no?

Thank goodness for John Guy's closing.

boston bean

(36,181 posts)
25. he had turned 17 22 days earlier...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jul 2013

I'm not the best at math, but I'm pretty sure that iswhat john guy said. 16 years and 22 days.

28. John Guy's math is correct...
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jul 2013

When you turn 17, that means you have lived for a an entire 16 years already and are just starting on the 17th year.

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