Trayvon Martin Related: This is worth posting AGAIN

[uponit7771]

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[uponit7771]

1. +1

[CitizenLeft]

2. so fast your head would spin.

If Zimmerman looked like that photo, he would've spent the night of 2/26/12 in jail and been indicted within the week. For murder.

[Enthusiast]

6. And he would have been drug tested on the spot.

That is just a fact.

[npk]

3. Wasn't the bottom pic gang related? Not sure if the circumstances are the same

Also If this is the case I am thinking of the suspect in the bottom pic was sentenced to a reduce sentence.

[1monster]

4. Look again. The bottom photo is Travon Martin portrayed as white, and George Zimmerman

portrayed as black.

Same people, same incident, races reversed.

[npk]

5. Ok my mistake

I remember seeing that same graphic once before, and some posters stated that the pic on the bottom was portraying a similar case somewhere in the country that was gang related and a fight that resulted in a murder. Wasn't sure 100% if that true or not.

[JDPriestly]

7. "Wasn't the bottom pic gang related?" -- quote from your post.

Time for a subconscious check.

That the bottom pictures might be from a gang-related crime never occurred to me.

Why would anyone immediately associate the bottom picture with a gang-related crime or trial?

I don't want to be rude, but maybe that is something to think about.

This may not be the case for you, but for some people who associate those pictures with a gang crime but not the top pictures, it might have to do with racism. I apologize genuinely if I am wrong.

We all need to check our consciences from time to time.

[npk]

8. This same picture was posted like a month ago here on DU

And several posters stated that the bottom pic was an actual crime that "did take place" and was gang related. I can't find the post or remember the name of the white kid that was killed, but only that apparently this white kid was killed by a small gang of kids - that consisted of both white and black kids. My point of my post, which was obviously not made, was that if this pic on the bottom was of an actual crime that was "gang related" it would be like comparing apple to oranges. In the case of Zimmerman this was a situation where there was, as far as anyone knows, where neither the killer nor the victim had any apparent motive, other than "race". In the other case, which now apparently as it turns out is not what is depicted in this picture, had a motive of several kids that had been already involved in several altercations at school. That was what I was referring to by the circumstances were different. I was actually trying to make the case that the initial investigation into the Martin murder was worse because it was so obvious that the case couldn't have been about anything else other than race.

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. Really?

In the case of Zimmerman this was a situation where there was, as far as anyone knows, where neither the killer nor the victim had any apparent motive, other than "race".

Really? I mean. Really. What "motive" could the victim have? Of course, the answer is he had none and didn't need to have any. If there is any talk of motives here, they all have to do with the killer, not the victim.

Now let's see if I can come up with a motive other than race, to call into question your false dichotomy... let's see.. hmm.. delusions of grandeur, psychopathy, schitzoprenia, side effects of mood altering drugs upon which the killer was dependent. Oh, then there's the gleeful joy of getting to use that gun finally, after years of training and eager copy-copping - finally, that gun would get to literally shoot its load into a young boy.

Oh there are so many possible motives other than race that it makes one's head spin. So why the willful blindness on your part? We know why, don't we? You refuse to face the facts that the killer is just that, a killer, a perpetrator of a heinous crime and someone who needs to be punished and face the consequences of his actions.

Yeah, THAT's right.

[busterbrown]

9. Just saw it for the first time..

I just took a glimpse of the Z. Photo...Not interested..many assumptions could be made..

The Martin photo comparison says it all.. Unbelievable.. If he looked like this, Zimmerman would have already pleaded and been serving a 25 yr sentance.

[uponit7771]

10. +1

[Nuclear Unicorn]

11. Perhaps some respect for the jurors would be best

[hedgehog]

14. He was 16 in that photo taken 6 monthsd before he was killed:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp


Here's the "gangster" about a week before he died:

Oops! I hot linked to the Snopes site which I didn't realize was a bad thing! You can see the photo there!

[vaberella]

20. i read the link you provided.

It confirmed what i know And reaffirmed my belief.in a racist media. Racism is alive And well in america. There is this push to tie this kid to all negative stereotypes of Blacks. the poster you commented seems to perpetuate this.

[Nine]

28. You know what's sad?

I've been following all this off and on since it started and I didn't know until today that that red shirt photo was taken just months before Trayvon was killed. I knew, of course, that the fake Trayvon photos were fake. But somehow I was duped by the right wing smear machine into thinking that this photo was of Trayvon at a much younger age. I knew the media mostly stopped using that photo at some point. I didn't know it was only to placate the Zimmerman defenders rather than because anything was wrong with the picture.

[EOTE]

15. "gangsta grill" Are you fucking serious?

You may say you're not, but you ARE advocating for George Zimmerman. You're suggesting that because more recent pictures of Trayvon Martin feature a "gangsta grill", he deserved to be murdered. As if what Trayvon Martin wears has any bearing on whether or not he was murdered. That's disgusting, racist garbage.

[JimDandy]

17. For the same reason that Zimmerman's team

keeps saying that Trayvon was a football player when in fact he had last played at age 13 in a community rec league with the neighborhood boys at his local park.

Zimmerman's team publicized that photo of Trayvon at age 13, in his Hollister Community Rec football shirt, to make the jury pool believe that Trayvon was an athletically fit big black football player (you're supposed to think NFL bruiser...) Did you just hear O'Mara push that sick shit to the jury in closing?

If that photo was used to advantage by the prosecution...well that's what happens when Zimmy's attorney's, family and internet minions try to push false info...they got push back with the very info they used to try and poison the well.

Don't like it? Well live with it...Trayvon never got to.

[vaberella]

18. If i remember correctly that wasn't Trayvon at 14. n/t

[MH1]

21. HE WAS A MINOR. 14 OR 17 HE WAS A GODDAMN CHILD.

There is nothing wrong with any picture of him. EXCEPT THE ONE WHERE HE IS LYING DEAD.

[LeftInTX]

13. Actually, I think Zimmerman looks more like a thug in his original pic

I wonder how Zimmerman's appearance will affect the jurors? I've always thought he looked like an A-hole.

[kentuck]

19. Maybe someday...?

We will have justice?

[pamela]

22. The cops would have probably shot that bottom Zimmerman. n/t

[CakeGrrl]

23. Yep. Black Zimmerman would have died in police custody "resisting arrest".

[Cha]

24. Thank you, uponit!

So freaking true.. and to see it done in a graphic like this is even more compelling!

[treestar]

26. OT whoever did that should make a program

where white people can see what they'd look like as black. Then use the photos in various situations and see how they are treated differently. Vice versa would be interesting too.

[ceonupe]

27. I would point you to the Washington case

The race roles were reversed and the black guy did shoot the white man over top of him grounding and pounding him. The shooter a black male walked free.