Snowden's Quotes

[gholtron]

quotes:


“I think the government’s going to say I’ve committed grave crimes and violated the espionage act and aided our enemies in making us aware of these systems.”

Well Yah. You stole their computers with top secret documents and fled the country to Hong Kong and talked with Chinese and Russian officals. Dah


“I joined the intelligence community when I was very young…and I believed in the nobility of our intentions to free oppressed people overseas.”

Hummmmm But but that was not what you told the Chinese News Paper?
Snowden to newspaper: I took contractor job to gather evidence. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/25/politics/nsa-leak-snowden-job

“I don’t want to live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity or love or friendship is recorded.”

Well Mr. Traitor, If that is true, then why would you apply to countries like China, Russia, and Germany in which YOU exposed as spying and working with the N.S.A.

This guy is so full of Shit

[Bonobo]

1. Why do you think he enlisted? nt

[MjolnirTime]

3. Why did he go first to China, then Russia, when he could have gone straight to Venezuela???

Do you even ask yourself this question?

[Bonobo]

4. Please answer my question first. nt

[gholtron]

11. Who the Hell knows why he enlisted?

I just showed you where he said gave an interview to Greenwald about why he joined the intelligence agency and what he told the Chinese News paper. Two completely different reasons. So why should I believe what he said about joining the military?

[Bonobo]

13. Why on Earth would you believe what a Chinese State-run newspaper says?

They said he said that. Why are you so certain it is true?

[gholtron]

15. The same reason why he would Flee to a Chinese Country

He didn't refute it did he? Did Greenwald his spokesman denied it? So I have no other choice but to believe it.

[Bonobo]

18. But you yourself claim it contradicts earlier statements by him

In which he said he joined for more noble reasons.

So which is to believed. You chose the one that matched your own VP.

No one forced you.

[gholtron]

20. If the interview with the Chinese newspapers

Was false, then why didn't he refute it. It's that simple. Tell you what, if you can find a link where he denied making that statement, not only will I take down that claim, I will replace it with an apology. Fair enough?

[Bonobo]

21. Not really.

That assumes that:

1) He responds to EVERYTHING that is said or attributed to him

and

2) That everything he says is reported.

Both are clearly implausible.

[gholtron]

22. Then I guess what I wrote will stay up.

[Bonobo]

24. Yes, I guess the Chinese state-run newspaper will get you to transmit their message.

And I am sure there are no ulterior motives present at all.

[Galraedia]

17. Why on Earth should we believe what someone who talks to a Chinese state-run newspaper says?

[MjolnirTime]

16. He enlisted because he found someone who would pay him for hacking.

He has no degree or even a GED.

You are seriously deluding yourself if you think he's noble in any way.
This has all been orchestrated. Snowden didn't do this on his own. He didn't even write his own interview responses.

[gholtron]

2. I'm just showing inconsistencies of what he said and what he does.

He is saying one thing and doing another. Who the hell knows why he enlisted?

[treestar]

5. He doesn't have to live in that world because it doesn't exist

what an idiot.

[99Forever]

6. Oh golly gee...

... another amateur character assassin tries his luck.

And like all of the bootlickers before him, wins a giant size bucket of fail.

[gholtron]

7. Well thank you for the Character assassination but really

That should go to the traitor himself. Tell me where I'm wrong? These are his words and his actions?. Tell me where I made up anything?

[99Forever]

8. Find someone else to chase you down...

.. the rabbithole. I suggest one of your fellow surrender monkeys.

[gholtron]

9. Is that the best come back you have?

Really? I just showed you inconsistencies of your hero. And you attack me for that? Well I can see if I made all this up then you would be justified but I didn't and the truth hurts. This guy is a liar and he has gotten people to FOLLOW him down a rabbit hole.

[99Forever]

10. It's all you rate.

[gholtron]

12. Ok I can see why you admire this guy.

Have a good day or evening.

[KittyWampus]

14. Your increasingly hateful rhetoric on this site towards other members is really unfortunate.

I may argue with members and trade barbs, but I don't outright insult them.

Using the icon you do whilst being so nasty is also unfortunate.

[woo me with science]

19. Ah, yes. Kittywampus: a PARAGON of civility.

Who better to lecture others about civility and the icons they post, than someone who gives other DUers the finger?

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3185944

KittyWampus (43,275 posts) Sat Jul 6, 2013, 04:47 PM
54. Here is a map for you since you think you are clever:

And this little gem was posted by sweet, civil Kitty to more than one DUer.

[Bonobo]

23. I like the map queen's post to me here: Real civil:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3191157

KittyWampus (43,275 posts)
347. I can't believe you are a host. Proof DU's system is flawed in the extreme.

[woo me with science]

27. Yep. I posted some of her gems below about "ratfuckers" and "reactionary screamers."

You could literally fill pages with her incivility.

The lectures to other DUers are the cherry on top of this hypocrisy sundae.

[KittyWampus]

29. Ratfucker is a political term. Reacting constantly to the latest shiny object is political behavior

[KittyWampus]

32. I stand by that 100%.

[gholtron]

25. well to be fair to kitty, it's not really an icon

[KittyWampus]

31. AH! So a clique of DU bullies decide to harass me over a map I posted and my standing up to them

is uncivil.

Yeah, bullies love to blame the victim.

I wouldn't have posted those maps if you and the others hadn't decided to keep harassing me.

Should I post links to every single member who decided to harass me over posting a map?

[woo me with science]

26. Oh, look. And here's KittyWampus calling DUers

"reactionary screamers"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3022193
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3003676
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023021853

and prone to "ratfucking"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981596
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981609
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981647
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2981640

And this is just a small sampling. Surely she is the Civility Compass for DU!

[Bonobo]

28. About as nasty a group of posts as I have ever seen.

Said poster certainly has no grounds to talk about "incivility".

[KittyWampus]

30. Again, Ratfucker is a POLITICAL term. Maybe you should educate yourself.

And being reactionary is about reacting constantly to the latest shiny object. It tends to be used for conservative views but the word is still valid for the left as well.

And it says volumes about both of you blithely skip right over that posters fucked up posts as if it's on par with anything I've posted.

[woo me with science]

33. It took me all of a minute on google

to find that vitriol from you, and I could have filled pages with what I found there.

And, as has been pointed out to you multiple times, you use the term "ratfucking" incorrectly for its political meaning. You use it for effect.

The hypocrisy you show here, lecturing other DUers, is breathtaking.

[noamnety]

34. You seem confused about events.

"I joined the intelligence community when I was very young"

is a separate event from this: "I took contractor job"

They happened at two different points in his life, and he's saying he had different motivations when he was young and first joined the intel community (2007?), vs. when he took the Booz Allen job in 2013.