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Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:23 PM

Updated poll on George Zimmerman trial guessing the verdict

Last edited Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:35 PM - Edit history (1)

At this point of the trail now-what do you think the outcome will be?
14 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Acquittal
6 (43%)
Hung Jury
1 (7%)
Aggravated Battery
0 (0%)
Manslaughter
5 (36%)
Second Degree Murder
2 (14%)
Other
0 (0%)
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Reply Updated poll on George Zimmerman trial guessing the verdict (Original post)
gopiscrap Jul 2013 OP
Name removed Jul 2013 #1
gopiscrap Jul 2013 #2
Name removed Jul 2013 #3
premium Jul 2013 #5
gopiscrap Jul 2013 #7
Name removed Jul 2013 #32
PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #4
RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #23
quinnox Jul 2013 #6
premium Jul 2013 #8
quinnox Jul 2013 #9
premium Jul 2013 #12
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #28
giftedgirl77 Jul 2013 #29
Hoyt Jul 2013 #10
premium Jul 2013 #13
Hoyt Jul 2013 #19
gopiscrap Jul 2013 #22
premium Jul 2013 #25
premium Jul 2013 #24
William769 Jul 2013 #11
premium Jul 2013 #14
William769 Jul 2013 #16
premium Jul 2013 #17
William769 Jul 2013 #39
premium Jul 2013 #40
libodem Jul 2013 #15
HappyMe Jul 2013 #18
Captain Stern Jul 2013 #20
premium Jul 2013 #26
ermoore Jul 2013 #21
Little Star Jul 2013 #27
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #30
Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #36
Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #31
ellisonz Jul 2013 #33
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #34
gopiscrap Jul 2013 #35
avebury Jul 2013 #37
Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #38
Name removed Jul 2013 #41
hrmjustin Jul 2013 #42

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Response to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:29 PM

2. Hung jury means that there are some jurors

who will vote acquittal and some will vote guilty and at some point the judge, seeing that there would be no compromise will declare a mistrial and the whole case will have to be tried again.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:36 PM

5. It's up to the DA at that point,

 

they can either try the defendant again on the original charge, or they can charge the defendant with the lesser included charge in hopes of a conviction, or they can try to strike a deal.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:38 PM

7. Any charge that there is acquittal on is not retriable

the charge or charges in which there is a hung jury can be re tried

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Response to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:34 PM

4. It means the jury can't reach a decision (6-0 for conviction or acquittal in this case)

If a single juror holds out and doesn't vote with the others eventually the judge will declare a mistrial.

The result is usually a retrial, trying the case all over with a different jury.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hung_jury

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Response to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:03 PM

23. Hooray for Pepe!

Hooray!!!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:36 PM

6. I don't mind being the first (and only) vote for a prediction of second degree murder so far

 

but I think it might happen, and surprise a lot of people.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:40 PM

8. There is no way the state has proven 2nd Murder,

 

the best they can hope for at this point is Manslaughter, and with my experience in criminal trials, they'll be lucky to get that.
This prosecution has been, IMO, the equivalent of the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight.

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Response to premium (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:41 PM

9. we shall see, I think the jury may send a strong message

 

and might have seen things rather differently.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:49 PM

12. Possible,

 

but, like I said, with my experience with testifying in criminal trials, for the state and defense, I just don't see that happening, I pray I'm wrong, but I usually have a good feel for this.

We will shortly see.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:14 PM

28. I'm also starting to think they have a solid case for 2nd

 

after listening yesterday to John Guy

He totally took me by surprise. Distilled all
of the very best points supporting the charges.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:18 PM

29. I hope you're right.

 

But this case was a train wreck if I have ever seen one & I've seen some pretty crappy cases get tried. However, I do think the elements are there for 2d degree it is just going to come down to the jury's take on it & how they read the evidence.

Cross our fingers & hope for the conviction.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:47 PM

10. If not hung jury (there will likely be at least one bigot/gun lover on jury), . . . . .manslaughter.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:50 PM

13. So predictable,

 

I expected nothing less from you, and you don't disappoint Hoyt.

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Response to premium (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:59 PM

19. You are consistent too . . . . . .

by voting you think he will be acquitted, but when pressed say he's guilty manslaughter, or it could be 2nd degree, or some other BS.

Why don't you just come out and admit that you and your gun buddies will celebrate if he gets off. Maybe not on DU, but somewhere.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:02 PM

22. I agree with you

that's the problem with fucking gun nuts...it's all about their god damn guns and to hell with everyone else.

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:06 PM

25. Uh huh.

 

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:05 PM

24. You got it all wrong Hoyt, as usual,

 

I voted acquittal because that's what I believe will happen because of the ineptness of the state's case, however, I believe he's guilty of Manslaughter.
I won't be celebrating anything, which ever way the verdict turns out, nobody wins in this case, a young man is dead, and his family is devastated, another man's life is ruined no matter what the verdict is.

But you just keep on misrepresenting other people's views, you're very good at it.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:48 PM

11. I'm going with Second Degree Murder.

Go big or go home.

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Response to William769 (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:52 PM

14. Hey, why the hell not?

 

Might as well go all out, got nothing to lose at this point.

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Response to premium (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:53 PM

16. I am retired from the State of Florida.

Yes I am not always right, but if I was a betting man I would be on the plus side.

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Response to William769 (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:57 PM

17. You're retired from FL Dept of Corrections, if I remember right?

 

I salute you for a tough and thankless job, I'm retired FLEO and you couldn't pay me enough money to do what you did.
I just have this nagging feeling that GZ is going to either be acquitted or receive a hung jury, I hope not, but my experience in criminal proceedings, tells me otherwise.
We should know shortly.

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Response to premium (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:36 PM

39. Yep thats me.

I have been to more court trials than I care to remember. It's just a feeling I got but like I said, I could be wrong.

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Response to William769 (Reply #39)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:40 PM

40. Well, I'm truly hoping you're right and I'm wrong.

 

We'll know soon enough.

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Response to William769 (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:52 PM

15. yep!

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Response to William769 (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:59 PM

18. Yeah, I almost voted for that.

I decided to go with manslaughter. Bubba still gets time for that.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:01 PM

20. I didn't vote becaue I'm torn 50/50 between manslaughter and acquittal.

I really wish there was a recording somewhere of the phone call between Trayvon and Rachel.

Do you think if one of the Attorneys subpoenaed the NSA for a recording of the call, they'd give it up? (That was an attempt at a joke)

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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #20)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:07 PM

26. And a very good attempt,

 

I chuckled at it.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:02 PM

21. Acquittal

Considering that a couple of the state's witnesses testified that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating him . . . I feel like he will probably be acquitted. And I'm not sure it won't be the right call either. Just sayin'.

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Response to ermoore (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:10 PM

27. people roll around in fights so what does being on the top at one point prove?

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Response to ermoore (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:19 PM

30. If you found yourself in a tussle with a hostile person who didn't want to let you get away

 

and he pulls a gun or you see he has his hand on
his gun
in a holster and you have the chance to
be on top, restrain him, and you try like hell to pin
his arms so he can't aim that gun at your heart...
yeah that works for me.

I don't think there was amoment from the time
Zimmerman got out of the car that he took his
hand off his gun. He was ready set to go.

He didn't have two hands to defend himself
once the fight started because he was keeping
one on the gun.

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Response to ermoore (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:23 PM

36. Zimmerman also followed him, and confronted him

 

while carrying a loaded weapon. Trying to cherrypick out one moment and presenting Travyon as the aggressor because of it isn't rational. The "Stand Your Ground" law allows people (even black people) to defend themselves against someone like Zimmerman.

Zimmerman is clearly guilty of something. Manslaughter is a bare minimum.

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:20 PM

31. Manslaughter, but I still have hope for 2nd degree

 



I need to hear the closing arguments first.


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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:21 PM

33. Second-Degree Murder

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:21 PM

34. Getting more confident the state has a good case for 2nd.

 

I think he will NOT be acquitted.

There must be at least ONE woman on that jury
who would not acquit in a million years.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #34)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:23 PM

35. I am hoping so also

and if the state refuses to retry I think there will be a lot of protesting going on

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:25 PM

37. I just don't see how the Jury can vote

for acquittal. Martin could not conceivably done all of the things Zimmerman accused him of unless Martin was an octopus and a dwarf. I cannot get past Zimmerman's lies and attitude.

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Response to avebury (Reply #37)

Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:34 PM

38. true, it's getting more transparent as time goes on

 

and the lies etc. are more indicative of depraved mind.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #41)

Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:23 PM

42. Are you a Zimmerman supporter?

 

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