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Sancho

(9,067 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:32 PM Jul 2013

Here's my Zimmerman theory...

GZ followed TM and grabbed him (maybe from behind) on the dog walk; "let me go, let me go" (phone witness)
TM swung his head back striking GZ in the nose; (no blood on TM's hands or front of his hoody)
They fell back or slipped on the wet ground and GZ struck the back of his head on the sidewalk; small cuts on his head
They started rolling and fighting in the grass; several witness
TM yelled for help and never hit GZ or covered his mouth; (no blood on TM's hands or sleeves)
As they rolled around, GZ got his gun out and as TM tried to stand to get away, GZ shot him point blank

GZ had enough coursework and knowledge of self-defense to know he had to make up a story, and in a minute or two before the cops arrived he quizzed the guy with the flashlight and others to confirm no one was a clear witness, so he made up a story that he was in fear for his life and was ambushed in the dark....

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WVU

(40 posts)
2. No way,dude.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jul 2013

While that's an interesting theory, it completely goes against what most already know:

Zimmerman was out to kill. I don't think he would have acted in the manner you describe, as it would have introduced too many variables which would have muddied his chances of getting to kill TM.

GZ was out to kill, not bear-hug and detain TM.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
3. I think he wanted to be a hero and catch the *****'s that "always got away"...
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:54 PM
Jul 2013

but he was prepared to shoot someone - and likely chambered a round before he set out to follow TM.

I just can't see the bloody nose and holding GZ's head without any blood or DNA on TM's hands or sleeves, so he likely head butted him some way. It was wet and easy to slip and hit your head.

I wouldn't be surprised if GZ had tried to tackle or hold TM - which explains the witnesses who heard the chase and voices arguing, and the girl friend who hear "what are you doing around here" and "let me go".

alittlelark

(18,888 posts)
6. I doubt he was 'out to kill'. He's just a pathetic cop wannabe
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jul 2013

with a gun fetish (making up for something perhaps?). He has a desperate need to be a HERO - or at least be seen as one.

The OP makes more sense than anything else I have heard.

c588415

(285 posts)
4. I concur
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jul 2013

I agree with your perspective on the Travon Martin/ Zimmerman case. Nevertheless, it appears that Zimmerman will walk. The prosecution's case against him is weak. What really pissed me off was seeing Zimmerman on the news today in court, chuckling(July3,2013). That pudgy looking bastard knows that he is going to get away with murder. Where is the justice for Travon?

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
5. I don't think you are giving the jury enough credit. They are hearing all the lies Zimmerman
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:41 PM
Jul 2013

has told. And the prosecution with bring the whole thing together in closing statements and explain why there was DNA here and not there.

I think he is definitely going down.

alittlelark

(18,888 posts)
7. They are setting him up as a pathological liar...
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jul 2013

...and doing a good job of it. Lie after lie after lie.....

 

grok

(550 posts)
8. THEORIES are alike a??holes and elbows
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 07:27 PM
Jul 2013

we all got them.

what matters most in a trial is that you have disproved everything else,taking into the account human beings/witnesses remembering some things wrong.

And that there is nothing left but your theory on how to condemn and persecute.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
9. Yep..and my theory fits the evidence....
Thu Jul 4, 2013, 09:57 PM
Jul 2013

if you have a different theory, then you should post it...if you see some evidence that is different as the trial unfolds, then you should state how that fits your theory.

Simply responding with the obvious - that a trial is going on and lawyers are trying to "prove" something to the jury is also given.

BTW, sometimes trials get it wrong for many reasons - rules of evidence, quality of lawyers, bad judges, poor police work, and biased juries are always a potential part of the outcome.

Maybe we'll never know the truth.

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