Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:25 AM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
I'm mighty relieved to know that Snowden is full of shit
and knows zip.
Given our government's extraordinary global bridge-burning actions to stop him: Pres Morales: "NO You can NOT inspect my aircraft!" Emergency UNASUR meeting. Hague Tribunal? I tremble to think what they'd do if he did actually know something!
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Author | Time | Post |
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MannyGoldstein | Jul 2013 | OP |
dkf | Jul 2013 | #1 | |
Fire Walk With Me | Jul 2013 | #2 | |
sibelian | Jul 2013 | #8 | |
Fire Walk With Me | Jul 2013 | #11 | |
bahrbearian | Jul 2013 | #3 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #4 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Jul 2013 | #6 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #9 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Jul 2013 | #10 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #17 | |
Downwinder | Jul 2013 | #25 | |
frylock | Jul 2013 | #36 | |
frylock | Jul 2013 | #35 | |
nadinbrzezinski | Jul 2013 | #5 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #7 | |
HipChick | Jul 2013 | #12 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #13 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #19 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #21 | |
Marr | Jul 2013 | #28 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #31 | |
Marr | Jul 2013 | #32 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2013 | #33 | |
Marr | Jul 2013 | #37 | |
bvar22 | Jul 2013 | #42 | |
morningfog | Jul 2013 | #14 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #16 | |
morningfog | Jul 2013 | #18 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #20 | |
muriel_volestrangler | Jul 2013 | #39 | |
annabanana | Jul 2013 | #41 | |
sibelian | Jul 2013 | #15 | |
backscatter712 | Jul 2013 | #23 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #24 | |
PufPuf23 | Jul 2013 | #27 | |
alcibiades_mystery | Jul 2013 | #29 | |
MannyGoldstein | Jul 2013 | #38 | |
PufPuf23 | Jul 2013 | #22 | |
Spitfire of ATJ | Jul 2013 | #26 | |
DeSwiss | Jul 2013 | #30 | |
Tierra_y_Libertad | Jul 2013 | #34 | |
Catherina | Jul 2013 | #40 | |
jsr | Jul 2013 | #43 |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:00 AM
dkf (37,305 posts)
1. I'm scared for him.
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Response to dkf (Reply #1)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:03 AM
Fire Walk With Me (38,893 posts)
2. If they hurt, kill, or disappear him, it will confirm his warnings and turn even more
against the surveillance state. Same as if they lock him up for three years in solitary without a trial, as they did to PFC Manning.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #2)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:11 AM
sibelian (7,804 posts)
8. I've a nasty feeling it might be past that stage.
Response to sibelian (Reply #8)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:13 AM
Fire Walk With Me (38,893 posts)
11. Yeah... :(
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:08 AM
bahrbearian (13,466 posts)
3. So I've been told.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:08 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
4. Um, can we at least wait until tomorrow to see what really happened?
No one knows yet. Not even Evo Morales, but he's willing to state it's about an attempt to murder him or tarnish his image.
Pretty over the top stuff when there's very little information about the source of the rumor or reason that this happened. |
Response to flamingdem (Reply #4)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:10 AM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
6. Excuse me...but so far we have had acts
That are mighty serious...wars have started for far less.
Pretzel yourself out of that. |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:11 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
9. We'll know more tomorrow
If it is explainable then it will look pretty silly that everyone assumed the worst
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #9)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:12 AM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
10. So the idiot South American made this up
Got it.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:15 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
17. They don't know who stated what and why exactly it happened
That is in the articles, check it out.
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #17)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:24 AM
Downwinder (12,869 posts)
25. The problem is not who started the rumor, it is who credited it.
Response to flamingdem (Reply #4)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:55 AM
frylock (34,825 posts)
35. i don't think that you fully grasp the gravity of the situation here..
your attempt to downplay this event is disingenuous, at best.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:09 AM
nadinbrzezinski (154,021 posts)
5. Well...my dear frank Zappa spoke of removing the scenery
I think we are watching a nice wall...the question is concrete or brick?
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:11 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
7. Oh, no. Now Evo Morales is angry at the Norteamericanos
Would that this whole affair had never happened.
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:13 AM
HipChick (25,466 posts)
12. And Assange is prob laughing his arse off..
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:14 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
13. It's pretty funny, yesterday Pres. Correa was all buddy, buddy with Joe Biden
and said that Snowden was a spy he didn't particularly care to meet.
So it looked like Latin America was okay with the USA, even Maduro was reported to have second thoughts about any asylum offers. But Europe was on our azz about the leaks and this and that. Now we see they are maybe a little too attentive of any US requests. I'm starting to think this has been a game played by Putin to see how strong the alliances are, to have some fun. |
Response to flamingdem (Reply #13)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:16 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
19. Nobody cares that much
It's a conspiracy by internet message boards so that they'll have something to yammer about.
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #19)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:17 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
21. True, this is but a blip
It's one fantastic story though.
If it wasn't for Treyvon it would be the top story, they need more footage though, a few more interviews |
Response to flamingdem (Reply #13)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:30 AM
Marr (20,317 posts)
28. You're aware that Ecuador and Bolivia are two different places, right?
Latin America isn't a monolith. And that tinfoil looks ridiculous.
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Response to Marr (Reply #28)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:43 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
31. I've been there. No one knows exactly what happened and why nt
Response to flamingdem (Reply #31)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:45 AM
Marr (20,317 posts)
32. Yeah, so have I. And hey, if no one knows exactly what happened, why are you so
damned sure this is 'just a blip'?
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Response to Marr (Reply #32)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:50 AM
flamingdem (38,861 posts)
33. Why are you so aggressive, I would never treat a person that way on the internet
I find that bizarre
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #33)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:07 AM
Marr (20,317 posts)
37. Pushing lies is hardly respectful or respectable behavior.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3094672
I mean, several poor suckers there hopped in to support you, not realizing you were just feeding them bullshit they wanted to hear. |
Response to Marr (Reply #37)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:45 PM
bvar22 (39,909 posts)
42. Exactly!
Nailed It.
On Edit: But you got to have some compassion. They've been up night & day for over a week, hovering over their keyboards, frantically and desperately attacking any thread that could conceivably be seen as anti-government spying, or critical of the Obama Administration. So lapses in judgement and thinking skills should be expected at this point. I actually saw one reduced to "I know you are but what am I?" a few days ago. Desperation sucks, especially when you got NOTHING left. Sad really, but it is like a Circus Freak Show. I KNOW I shouldn't watch, but I HAVE to see it. ![]() |
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:14 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
14. Ya'll are sounding more like Republicans by the day.
Response to morningfog (Reply #14)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:15 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
16. Zat right?
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #16)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:16 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
18. Might as well embrace it.
Response to morningfog (Reply #18)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:17 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
20. Seriously, though, it's not like Morales needed this incident to change his position, right
Be honest.
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #16)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:39 AM
muriel_volestrangler (99,233 posts)
39. It is right, and you're pulling DU into the Republican gutter
in which you're having so much fun splashing.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #14)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:41 AM
annabanana (52,791 posts)
41. Weird,right? ... n/t
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:15 AM
sibelian (7,804 posts)
15. PLONK.
Response to sibelian (Reply #15)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:20 AM
backscatter712 (26,355 posts)
23. It's spreading!
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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #23)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:21 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
24. Fan club!
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:29 AM
PufPuf23 (8,031 posts)
27. After 500 years of European genocide in the western hemisphere,
I recommend you re-think the tone and substance of your post.
Sad to see the official USA reaction to an irrelevant peon (Snowden). |
Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #27)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:34 AM
alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)
29. You're mistaken
Snowden is the mostest importantest person in the whole wide world. Obviously.
I'll consider my post in light of your comments on the 500 year history. Thanks, yo! |
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:32 AM
MannyGoldstein (34,589 posts)
38. I know, really? What's with these banana republics?
If Obama's plane had to do the same, he'd just laugh it off.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:19 AM
PufPuf23 (8,031 posts)
22. I was "moved" to post in the "Pres Morales: "NO You can NOT inspect my aircraft!" Emergency...""
thread.
I agree with your OP. Thanks for your time spent at DU. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:28 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
26. To them, Morales is the New Chavez.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:41 AM
DeSwiss (27,137 posts)
30. Hey Manny, the good news is.....
...that George W. Bush traveled to Africa under the Obama (we don't look back to the past) Administration's protection and so therefore won't have to worry about having his plane boarded, or diverted, nor denied access through anyone's airspace because...... well, because we're the fucking USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:54 AM
Tierra_y_Libertad (50,414 posts)
34. Tyrants have strong thumbs.....weak fingers.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:41 AM
Catherina (35,568 posts)
40. Desperation bordering on madness right now
I think what scares the pants off of them is that there's not only more, but worse, to come and it's going to keep coming regardless of what happens to Snowden, or even Greenwald.
"That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide."
"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return." Senator Frank Church on the NSA specifically [center] ![]() Asked what Edward Snowden should expect to happen to him, William Binney, answered, "first tortured, then maybe even rendered and tortured and then incarcerated and then tried and incarcerated or even executed." Interesting that this is what a whistleblower, former Senior level Director at NSA, thinks the U.S. government will do to a citizen. |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:51 PM
jsr (7,712 posts)
43. Yes, the United States government has charged him with stealing shit
so he's full of it.
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