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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:08 PM

 

Justice Department And NSA Memos Proposing Broader Powers For NSA To Collect Data - GuardianUK

Justice Department and NSA memos proposing broader powers for NSA to collect data
Correspondence involving attorney general Michael Mukasey in 2007 requesting permission for the NSA to expand its 'contact chains' deeper into Americans' email records
NSA collected US email records in bulk for more than two years under Obama

guardian.co.uk
Thursday 27 June 2013 11.01 EDT



Link(w/Rest Of Docs): http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2013/jun/27/nsa-data-collection-justice-department


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Reply Justice Department And NSA Memos Proposing Broader Powers For NSA To Collect Data - GuardianUK (Original post)
WillyT Jun 2013 OP
aquart Jun 2013 #1
Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #3
aquart Jun 2013 #6
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2
WillyT Jun 2013 #8
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9
marions ghost Jun 2013 #4
Hydra Jun 2013 #5
idwiyo Jun 2013 #7
woo me with science Jun 2013 #10

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:22 PM

1. Busy bee, was Ed.

He was doing this for THREE FUCKING MONTHS? DID HE HAVE NO SUPERVISION?

Privatization of national security on any level needs to be outlawed.

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Response to aquart (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

3. Are you concerned at all that the 4th amendment has been discarded?

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:36 PM

6. Yes, but the information gathering doesn't worry me the way it does the rest of you.

The more there is, the less they'll be able to see. Think: hoarders.

While it does leave challengeable records to dispute their interpretation of their finds.

I'm actually more concerned about this information amassing in PRIVATE corporate hands with no national loyalty of any kind. Which is where we really are.

Now if you want me to agree to voiding the Patriot Act in toto including secret clauses, I'm with you.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:25 PM

2. Willy how the hell did you get that out if the document cache?

 

Not being flippant, been trying to.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:40 PM

8. It's A Secret...

 







Seriously... I'm using Google Chrome (don't know if other browsers do the same thing) but when I see the image I want, and it will not easily give me a copy, I right-click on it and select "Inspect Element".

Then I go to the "Resources" tab, and start snooping around for the images that I am interested in.

Sometime you can "Copy URL" from there, other times I have to download to my PC, and then upload to PhotoBucket, and then copy and paste it here.

Works most of the times, but not always.

Hope that made sense.




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Response to WillyT (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:43 PM

9. It made perfect sense

 

No wonder, using chrome's IPad version

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:31 PM

4. Interesting about the "chaining tools"

described at the Guardian link.

And also how the "no expectation of privacy" argument works --they literally assert that telephone metadata and email and web data is equivalent to having access to your written address on an old fashioned paper letter.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:34 PM

5. What really scares me about this

Is that they're ordering domestic spying the way they might call and order Chinese takeout. Like the FISA warrant, "I'll take one of everything, to go. No objections."

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 06:39 PM

7. K&R

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:08 PM

10. K&R

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