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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:31 AM

 

Senator Feinstein sells out Americans AGAIN

She is going to pull out all the stops and present us with props and charts and lie like a Collen Powell in front of the UN

NICE

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Reply Senator Feinstein sells out Americans AGAIN (Original post)
FreakinDJ Jun 2013 OP
backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #1
Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #6
newfie11 Jun 2013 #29
Catherina Jun 2013 #2
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #3
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #7
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #9
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #11
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #15
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #18
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #23
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #24
tblue Jun 2013 #4
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #10
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #12
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #20
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39
Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #19
dogknob Jun 2013 #26
railsback Jun 2013 #5
JDPriestly Jun 2013 #8
BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #13
JDPriestly Jun 2013 #16
Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #14
adieu Jun 2013 #17
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #30
adieu Jun 2013 #32
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #35
adieu Jun 2013 #37
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #41
adieu Jun 2013 #38
Left Coast2020 Jun 2013 #21
dogknob Jun 2013 #27
cali Jun 2013 #22
im1013 Jun 2013 #25
kitt6 Jun 2013 #28
Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #31
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #34
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #33
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #36
backscatter712 Jun 2013 #40

Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:33 AM

1. pretty much

 

this was called a few days ago that they would say we have been saved by giving up our rights

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:31 AM

6. It's just so much bullshit.

There is so much rampant corruption in our country today, that I can't see one reason to believe it wasn't condoned or even instigated by those who had the information.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:35 AM

29. Sad but true

ethics are gone. It's the "what's in it for me" now.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 AM

2. Why is there no term limits on these critters?

These permanent tenures are NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind. And for good reason like war-profiteering.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 AM

3. IOW, the same corrupt POS she's always been. n/t

 

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:34 AM

7. +1

Should have known when she fucked up the SF skyline. She was sleazy from the beginning.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:45 AM

9. One would think that someone that was an upper-middle-class housewife in 1978 and,

 

while doing nothing but holding a series of public offices, accumulates a personal net worth in the $100M range, would be a sufficient clue.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:52 AM

11. Seriously

Nancy Pelosi is no better in that regard. It's all disgusting.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:59 AM

15. Nope, another politician that has blatantly traded her position for fabulous wealth at the expense

 

of her constituents. OTOH, they keep sending her back.

Senator Boxer is much, much better.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:15 AM

18. Sadly, this is where you and I part

Boxer has played 'better than' for a long time. But she caves whenever the corporacrats tell her to. All our California senators suck.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:28 AM

23. Not sad at all. By the time I moved to CA my experience with Clinton had completely soured me

 

on politics (To my everlasting shame, I was a very active supporter and fundraiser for him in 1992), so when I moved to LA I was just busy pursuing my career and paid little attention to any of them (except for Dick Riordan, but that's a whole other story).

So, my opinion of Senator Boxer is almost certainly uninformed, being filtered through the cesspool-colored filter of California politics.

I am absolutely open to learning more about her, but she always seemed to be relatively benign.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:39 AM

24. She's the queen of using liberal keywords to fundraise and then goes limp when it's time to do

anything.

She made a big stink about the Stupak amendment and then folded like a deck of cards when the administration told her to STFU and vote for the ACA. All bluster.

There's lost of those. I know many on this board will disagree and cite her awesome liberal creds. But she hasn't done anything to impress in a long time other than the "Don't call me M'am" thing which I loved.

The SF Chronicle refused to endorse her against Fiorina, not because they wanted the Republican, but because Boxer has been little more than a seat warmer.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/editorials/article/No-endorsement-in-U-S-Senate-race-3172926.php

I remember having so much hope that California was represented by three strong women. But damn, they have been very disappointing. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:10 AM

4. When's her term up?

I've lost track. I voted for another Dem in her last primary. Next time, I should go volunteer for someone running to replace DiFi. I sure hope Boxer is on the right side of this issue.

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Response to tblue (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:49 AM

10. She'll be about 85 when her term expires in 2018. She won. n/t

 

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Response to tblue (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:52 AM

12. At 79 year old, she was just re-elected.

She's untouchable, unfortunately. I would HOPE, that in 6 years, when she's 85 YEARS OLD, she'll consider retiring and letting some young blood in. I would think she would be happy with the bloody MILLIONS she's made off these immoral, illegal wars but that seems not to be the case.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:17 AM

20. There's always hell

Pascal's wager and all that. I do assume from her face that despite gaining all that wealth at the price of her soul, she's a desperately unhappy person. Or at least I like to think so.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:27 PM

39. Sadly you are pointing out our problem. It shouldnt be up to her. She should have been replaced

 

years ago. But the Democratic Party would rather have a shoo in, than some one with principles running.

At these times I wish I believed in hell, because that's where I would hope she rots.

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Response to tblue (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:15 AM

19. I was saddened to see her win re-election last year

I wanted her out long ago when she supported the cowboy and his bullshit. What a disgrace she has been to this state.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:51 AM

26. We didn't exactly have an alternative...

We DID, however, manage to neutralize the influence of the GOP in the state legislature and, almost immediately, erase the deficit.

And guess what? None of the bzillionaires left! Where are they gonna go? Kansas?

Nope, they're trying to buy the LA Times so they can create a new scandal every day until they get back into power...

SO...

We have to KEEP THEM OUT. Eliminate the GOP as a factor in California politics...

Only then can we challenge sellouts like DiFi on the left and not fuck ourselves doing it.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:19 AM

5. Gee, going to love the reaction here when China sends Snowden back

 

after he discovers all those files he downloaded from the FTP, which he thought were super classified files that would buy him sanctuary, turn out to be a bunch of photos of the last company picnic.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:34 AM

8. Precisely. She has been through a lot of trauma due to the

shooting of her colleague on the Council in San Francisco and she reacts with panic at the thought of terrorism. She doesn't keep her balance on certain issues. Terrorism is a serious problem, but losing our rights on this kind of massive scale is far more serious.

They may claim that this program is not all that invasive, but it is setting the stage for very invasive access to all of our communications.

And they are killing off the Post Office and replacing its services with private company deliveries. The problem with that is that the government can only read our mail if it gets a real subpoena, but private companies can do what they want with what we entrust to them. It isn't that I would have any reason or even opportunity to send something that they would be interested in. But I who knows what might be against the law in the future? And who knows what could be placed in an envelope to you that you do not know about?

Privatization is really bad for human rights. Private companies are not restrained by the Bill of Rights. That's one of the reasons this program is being contracted out to the private sector.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:55 AM

13. Rec this post

This whole thing is so much bigger than Obama. If the people would take the blinders off to see this is not a partisan issue. If we allow this continue, and I don't know how it can be stopped, there is no going back.

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Response to BrotherIvan (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:07 AM

16. Right. This did not start under Obama.

The national security bureaucracy has strengthened its stranglehold on Americans slowly but surely over many years.

It doesn't have that much to do with Obama.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:56 AM

14. She likes to explain charts?

Maybe she can explain this one:


[font size=1]Delayed-notice search warrants issued under the expanded powers of the Patriot Act, 20062009. [/font]

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:13 AM

17. I have been wishing that

 

Nancy Pelosi take over for Dianne Feinstein, with Feinstein retiring to a small island somewhere in the south pacific. And then, a new person taking over for Nancy to represent San Francisco.

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Response to adieu (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:29 AM

30. That would be replacing one DINO with another.

No thanks. We need someone like Debra Bowen to take over her seat. A REAL Democrat and one who will represent the people on not the MIC.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #30)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:43 PM

32. Baby steps

 

Can't make that move i one fell swoop.

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Response to adieu (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:11 PM

35. Sure we can.

We've got Boxer and she's as liberal as they come. We can do it again.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:13 PM

37. Here's the thing

 

Pelosi is more liberal than Feinstein. She also has enough experience so that once she gets to the senate, she can start elbowing without much worry about being the "junior" senator. At the same time, we can get someone new, with fresh blood to take over Pelosi's seat in the House. Yes, we may lose the potential speakership spot if the House swings to the Democrats in 2014, but I think there would be a reasonable good replacement for her in that case.

Then, since Pelosi isn't such a young gun, she may either retire or die in the next 6 years or so, so she may have one, maybe two terms as senator. After she goes, we can push on with more liberal candidates. Both Boxer and Pelosi were born in 1940. Feinstein in 1933.

Remember, Boxer was a long-time congressperson as well before landing the senate seat.

I'm sort of plugged in to the SF politics and see some dynamic younger group, those born in the 70s and later, who can fill in once Pelosi and Feinstein leave office.

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Response to adieu (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 12:28 AM

41. And none of that addresses the fact

that Pelosi is a DINO. We need a REAL Democrat in that seat.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:03 PM

38. Another option is

 

Jackie Speier replacing Feinstein when the latter retires/passes.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:22 AM

21. Maybe we should do like they do in sports?

Ask for a trade with say, uh, Massachusetts? I'll take your Elizabeth Warren, for Di-Fi, and a future Senator pick for 2018.

We could certainly use Warren to replace a relic like DI-Fi. Or trade her Puerto Rico? Guam?

Just thinking out loud here.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:59 AM

27. Yes, please!

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:28 AM

22. she is a throroughly corrupt piece of shit. perhaps the most corrupt in Congress

 

March 30, 2007 |


SEN. Dianne Feinstein has resigned from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee. As previously and extensively reviewed in these pages, Feinstein was chairperson and ranking member of MILCON for six years, during which time she had a conflict of interest due to her husband Richard C. Blum's ownership of two major defense contractors, who were awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Feinstein.

<snip>

http://www.alternet.org/story/49970/dianne_feinstein_resigns_committee_post_amid_scandal%3B_accused_of_war_profiteering

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 03:48 AM

25. I wonder how she'd like these numbers...

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:32 AM

28. She's Aunt Bee.

 

Technology and life is moving too fast for many of them.

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Response to kitt6 (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:32 AM

31. Enough with the ageism.

Bernie Sanders seems to do just fine. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with she sold her soul in order to be a billionaire. Fuck her.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:50 PM

34. To be fair...

 

(don't you just love that term, it like a red neon sign)

Her husband is the billionaire, She's only got $100,000,000 or so. Not bad on a civil servant's pay.

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Response to kitt6 (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:47 PM

33. More like Ma Barker. n/t

 

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 02:13 PM

36. It pays well. That's why it's called "selling out".

 

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 11:39 PM

40. She's an authoritarian shitbag.

Not only does she betray us on the Fourth Amendment, she demanded video game censorship, SOPA/PIPA and other Internet censorship/DRM shit laws, she cheerled the Iraq War, she voted for and cosponsored the PATRIOT Act, she's been a long-term cheerleader of the War on Drugs, she supports the death penalty, she supported the Flag Desecration amendment to the Constitution, etc. etc. etc. fucking etc.

She needs to be tarred and feathered, and run out of the Democratic Party on a rail.

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