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Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:06 PM

New Electronic License Plates Could Be Controlled By DMV, Law Enforcement Agencies

Now that Big Brother is all up in your cell phone and your email, why not your car, too?

Under a proposal reportedly being considered in South Carolina, metal license plates could be swapped out for electronic ones that would give the DMV or law enforcement agencies the power to broadcast messages directly onto the back of cars.

Such messages could read "Uninsured" or "Suspended" for people who are driving without insurance, or "Stolen" in cases of auto theft.

"We actually put that wording on the license plate across the top and, depending on how the state wants it, it could be in bright red, and we can actually [have the plate] flashing as it goes down the road," Brian Bannister, the co-founder of Compliance Innovations, the company that developed the technology, told CBS local affiliate WSPA-TV.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/electronic-license-plates_n_3424050.html

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Reply New Electronic License Plates Could Be Controlled By DMV, Law Enforcement Agencies (Original post)
Jesus Malverde Jun 2013 OP
hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
HereSince1628 Jun 2013 #17
JimDandy Jun 2013 #2
tridim Jun 2013 #4
JimDandy Jun 2013 #5
tridim Jun 2013 #9
tkmorris Jun 2013 #27
tridim Jun 2013 #31
markiv Jun 2013 #10
JimDandy Jun 2013 #15
markiv Jun 2013 #21
One_Life_To_Give Jun 2013 #24
JimDandy Jun 2013 #33
L0oniX Jun 2013 #22
Live and Learn Jun 2013 #3
nebenaube Jun 2013 #7
markiv Jun 2013 #13
nebenaube Jun 2013 #14
markiv Jun 2013 #23
truebrit71 Jun 2013 #6
JimDandy Jun 2013 #20
Nika Jun 2013 #8
snooper2 Jun 2013 #11
Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #12
JimDandy Jun 2013 #18
formercia Jun 2013 #28
JimDandy Jun 2013 #16
L0oniX Jun 2013 #19
Marrah_G Jun 2013 #25
Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #26
Live and Learn Jun 2013 #34
Historic NY Jun 2013 #29
flamingdem Jun 2013 #30
lpbk2713 Jun 2013 #32
moparlunatic Jun 2013 #35
FSogol Jun 2013 #36
HiPointDem Jun 2013 #37
cynatnite Jun 2013 #38

Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:10 PM

1. and a "wee" error in that system could get one killed...

Someone vindictive reporting a car (theirs or not) stolen?
That clerical error that suggests your license is suspended or the car not current on registration?

Exuberant officer wanting to "up his/her quota?" Make a name for themselves?

Yeah, what could go wrong?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:07 PM

17. But, there is no money for expanding medicaid and food assistance...

What went so wrong and when did it go so wrong in America?

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:11 PM

2. So now tracking every car with a gps signal

is going to be the norm? People better wake up and start saying NO!

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:21 PM

4. Chances are your car already has GPS. Multiple GPS's if you carry your smartphone with you.

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Response to tridim (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:41 PM

5. License plate gps signals would give the GOVT

real time tracking of your vehicles. That means giving express permission to the government to track your car's every movement and location. They must be salivating over the info they can grab from doing this.

And, after this NSA spying and tracking of our phones, I wouldn't trust any law or rule they enact in order to appease us that we aren't being spied on and tracked in our vehicles.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:55 PM

9. Fight it then, poutrage accomplishes nothing.

This is a proposal, not a law.

It's reasonably safe to assume that no government will ever track any American car with GPS and without a warrant. That is an obvious invasion of privacy, and very few will give express permission to do that.

That said, the Police track cars with warrants and LoJack/GPS every day. A cop found my stolen car once by tracking my LoJack.

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Response to tridim (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:44 PM

27. I wouldn't call that "reasonably safe"

After all, the Obama administration and it's justice department is arguing for exactly that. It's possible the USSC may continue to disallow it but I wouldn't exactly bet the ranch on it.

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:16 PM

31. The Obama Admin is arguing for direct Goverment access to GPS data in all cars?

That assertion certainly requires a link.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:55 PM

10. duplication of the GPS cell phone in the driver's pocket

 

wastefull gov spending

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Response to markiv (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:04 PM

15. I see what you did there.



The licence plates' GPS signals would actually be worse, though, because the signals would be accessible in real time to the government and WITHOUT a warrant.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:10 PM

21. cell phones are real time too

 

you think your phone isnt pinging towers as you move along, whether you are on a call or not?

how do you think your phone rings, when you take a flight across country? you really think every single tower in the country rings your phone, every time it rings?

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Response to markiv (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:14 PM

24. But they need a Warrant

To use it criminally against you still requires a court issued warrant. Whereas the data from your state issued transponder is already gov't property and usable against you without further warrant or court order.

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Response to One_Life_To_Give (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 04:16 PM

33. You beat me to it.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:11 PM

22. The National Snooping Association will love it.

 

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:18 PM

3. Good gawd, will this never end? nt

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Response to Live and Learn (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:52 PM

7. no... it's all down hill from here...

 

And in a few years (or less), somebody like the Koch Brothers will have unfettered control and access to it.

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Response to nebenaube (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:58 PM

13. Koch brothers donated to ACLU to oppose PATRIOT Act

 



therre's plenty you can criticize them for, but blaming them for this stuff is ignorant

http://www.lasocialdiary.com/node/125921

(launching the 2008-2009 season would be Bush era)



Last Tuesday night the New York City Ballet launched its 2008-2009 season with An Opening Night Celebration .........

David Koch has had a prominent social presence.........He and his brother Charles, along with George Soros, the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation each contributed $10 million to the ACLU to defeat parts of the USA Patriot Act.

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Response to markiv (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:04 PM

14. does he not also fund all the think tanks responsible for producing it? n/t

 

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Response to nebenaube (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:11 PM

23. can you directly cite your claim

 

like i did?

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:47 PM

6. Why not just mandate chip implants at birth and be done with it...

 

...jeebus aitch christ on a bike...when will it end???

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:10 PM

20. LOL... Seriously we are headed there if we don't stop

the government now.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:55 PM

8. The mark of Cain for your car.

Is America special, or what?

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:56 PM

11. Wow, that would be REALLY hard to get around

 

LOL

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:58 PM

12. Nice, well this will at least get more hackers out of the house and on the road.

Can you imagine how these things could be hacked?



PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:08 PM

18. The possibilities are endless. n/t

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:47 PM

28. " But, Officer, his License plate said "Hit Me"."

Much better than a Post-it note slapped on the Back.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:07 PM

16. Huge end run around the Court's decision that GPS

tracking of vehicles by law enforcement (the Government) is illegal without a warrant.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:09 PM

19. How about an arrest mugshot or "I am speeding right now" or "X-Con"

 

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:25 PM

25. This is getting out of control

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:43 PM

34. That is wonderful. Too bad it is only 1 city. nt

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:56 PM

29. Boy imagine hacking them..........

I could see a whole lot of "A$$holes" driving around.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:57 PM

30. fine by me

I've experienced the uninsured driver and non-citizen road impact scenario.

It's very dangerous out there especially with drivers who drink on top of the rest.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:28 PM

32. Don't most govts want to at least *look like* they're keeping costs down?





How many times does this brainfart multiply the price of the plain ole vanilla tag?
Add too, the cost of the program to keep all msgs functional and up to date.





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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:51 PM

35. I have nothing to

hide so it doesn't bother me if it makes us safer than, oh wait sorry wrong thread. It's ok for phone and internet tracking but I draw the line when it comes to my car.

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:52 PM

36. It would be great if you could hack them. So, the clown in his Mom's BMW, who just cut

me off, plate would read, "DOUCHE!"

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:53 PM

37. freaking creepy

 

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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:54 PM

38. I want to be able to give other drivers the finger. n/t

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