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Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:18 AM Jun 2013

Public Libraries

Brick and mortar ones that cater to no particular taste is what I reference here.
Where over the years, where it was not worth noting a face in the crowd, until the crowd became so small it is impossible not to notice.

While private and technical libraries are still viable these days, when was the last time you visited a Public Library?


For the paranoid, even if agent Mike reads over your shoulder, how likely is it that he would even understand the words?


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Public Libraries (Original Post) Riftaxe Jun 2013 OP
They need an upgrade to the tech age. napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #1
I fear a lot of the traffic these days Riftaxe Jun 2013 #5
We do that now.... defacto7 Jun 2013 #6
Most libraries do that now. intheflow Jun 2013 #12
No, I was the guy who clicked "one year" I'll check that out through. nt napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #14
You can already do that at my library. Maybe they can do it at yours too? raccoon Jun 2013 #20
My library has that feature. Not just for Kindle. nt MH1 Jun 2013 #22
My children and I go every couple of weeks. We get both books and dvds. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #2
There is plenty of foot traffic through my town's public library. The parking lot is always full Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #3
About once a week with my children. defacto7 Jun 2013 #4
My daughter is 18. She is part of the Millennial gen, and she loves reading paper books. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #7
That's great! defacto7 Jun 2013 #10
Now that you mention it... rucky Jun 2013 #18
I love them LittleBlue Jun 2013 #8
The Library is one of the few things this June that brings a smile to my face Riftaxe Jun 2013 #11
Agreed. LittleBlue Jun 2013 #13
Today. While most of the rest of the nation has decided that being completely ignorant Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #9
Almost every day. intheflow Jun 2013 #15
I used to go to the library weekly when it was close by but over the years YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #16
Worst case scenario... bluedeathray Jun 2013 #17
Other... NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #19
At least once a week and the place is usually crowded. Gormy Cuss Jun 2013 #21
I do not ride in a horse-powered buggy, but doesn't mean I forgo transportation 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #23
I suppose if the only thing you're looking for is news or porn intheflow Jun 2013 #24
PS: My favorite Public Library, nation-wide, was in Laramie, Wyoming 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #27
I get books out of it treestar Jun 2013 #25
You should ask one of the librarians intheflow Jun 2013 #28
Why are seven people saying 'other'? Bay Boy Jun 2013 #26
Every week. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #29
Also as a Friend of the Library I donate a lot of my used books to their sales. Our local library jwirr Jun 2013 #30
I have a $60 fine at mine LeftInTX Jun 2013 #31
sadly 5 plus years due to stuff happening in my life. nt Raine Jun 2013 #32

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
1. They need an upgrade to the tech age.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:23 AM
Jun 2013

As soon as I can check out books on to my kindle, they will be a major part of my life again.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
5. I fear a lot of the traffic these days
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:34 AM
Jun 2013

is just to renew membership for the meager online offerings. Which is not a bad thing, in of itself, it shows at least interest.

Bringing publishers into the few last decades of technology so libraries can flourish again is something no one has figured out.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. We do that now....
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:34 AM
Jun 2013

checking out library books on our kindles. Works great. We'll never give up real books though.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
20. You can already do that at my library. Maybe they can do it at yours too?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:25 AM
Jun 2013

Although the selection is somewhat limited.


To answer your question, week before last.






liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. My children and I go every couple of weeks. We get both books and dvds.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:24 AM
Jun 2013

Libraries are suppose to be a public service not a private company who has to perform to a certain level in order to deserve funding. I don't care how few people go, it should always be there for those who want and need it. There are still people who cannot afford to buy digital book readers and digital books or even internet connection. Those people actually need the library.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. There is plenty of foot traffic through my town's public library. The parking lot is always full
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:29 AM
Jun 2013

It's more than a collection of dusty old book nobody reads. It is an entry point into a community, it is a quiet place to go study, it's a helpful librarian who can help to navigate not just the stacks but the research databases. Really the list goes on and on.

I would hate to lose my public library. I use it enough to know I'd miss it.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. About once a week with my children.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:30 AM
Jun 2013

Many public libraries are still viable places that bring a different learning experience that can't be replaced by a LCD screen. Reading a real book is a tactile, creative experience that can't be simulated. I have nothing against Kindle or the like, we have a couple of them, but a real book in the hand, pages to turn... it's really a different thing and the stories create images that are kind of native to the spirit I would say. My kids have noticed this too.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. That's great!
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:52 AM
Jun 2013

It's good to know there are younger people who see/feel the difference. Like I said I have no problems with the others but it will never supplant the hard copy in hand. It's just a different mental process of taking in information and makes you feel more a part of the process; it's hard to explain.

rucky

(35,211 posts)
18. Now that you mention it...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:14 AM
Jun 2013

I thought the preference to paper was just adults being nostalgic, but there must be something to your theory.

My 8-yo daughter: She loves to read. and we go to the library every month or so - more in the summer. She's also obsessed with mom's iPad. She's not interested in reading books on the tablet, though. I've downloaded a few for her, but she's not asking for more. She just keeps gravitating to the paperbacks.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
8. I love them
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:39 AM
Jun 2013

And will happily pay taxes to support them.

To answer your question, I last visited a library in late April.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
11. The Library is one of the few things this June that brings a smile to my face
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:00 AM
Jun 2013

although be careful, they are full of seditious tomes....of course there are others explaining the nonsense of the former.....(you have been warned).

The beauty of a public library is an idea, written down, available to all, read and either refuted or rejected <preferably by further reading and ponderance, that is the hook, once they reel you in, you keep reading, they got ya!>.


In NH property taxes are biannual, and our library briefly came up for debate. A very short one.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
13. Agreed.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:12 AM
Jun 2013

I love the smell of the books and their feel, and especially their yellowed pages. You can't get it in a store where all the books are new. A Kindle simply doesn't compare.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
9. Today. While most of the rest of the nation has decided that being completely ignorant
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:44 AM
Jun 2013

of any and everything not fed to them through the idiot box or the web is just fine. Las Vegas has, surprisingly, maintained a pretty damned good public library system.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
15. Almost every day.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:33 AM
Jun 2013

I work at a library!

As such, I see many people who come to the library on a daily or weekly basis. Some are retired who want to be some place safe and comfortable to read the daily paper or weekly magazines - for free. Some are unemployed who come to use the computers to search for and apply to jobs. Some are teachers who order multiple copies of books for their classrooms; at least one is a school librarian from a nearby school district that has pretty much cut their school library out of the school budget. Some are parents who bring their kids for our reading and early childhood educational programs. Many are kids who need some place safe to go after school and over the summer. Many are people who come for the free movies, music cds, and downloadable emedia (including ebooks).

My branch is in a fairly upscale part of the city, and we are the busiest branch in the system. We offer free adult programming such as cooking classes, local history presentations, bicycle maintenance, crafts, book clubs, financial planning guidance, how to start a business lectures, English as Second Language classes, and music presentations, to name a few. During the summer our children's programming includes visits from magicians, a local bird of prey rescue group, story tellers, crafts for ages 5-18, and a reading program that offers prizes like tickets to the local Six Flags, professional soccer games, gift cards, iPods, and a grand prize of a laptop. HOAs & other community groups rent out our meeting room for the bargain basement price of $25/hr.

Our Central library is a depository for federal documents and houses the largest collection of western history in the country. One of our branches holds the largest collection of western African American history. These special collections are invaluable for people conducting genealogy, labor, religious, and racial research.

You are mistaken if you think public libraries are no longer viable in the 21st century. They are invaluable - though sadly underfunded and unappreciated in many communities in the country. That's out of ignorance - a modern public library is as relevant today as it was to its time a century ago.

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
16. I used to go to the library weekly when it was close by but over the years
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:33 AM
Jun 2013

The books I was reading were either not available or I would be put on a long wait list for it, a little frustrating sometimes but eventually I would get the books I want to read, so I was starting to go less frequently then when my job required frequent travel all over the world I started buying books and have not been to the library in years, about 20 years ago was the last time I went to one. I am fortunate to be able to afford to purchase the books I want to read but I still support public libraries and for many that is the only way to obtain reading material. The internet has made access to information easier but not everyone has a computer or internet access and many libraries serve that purpose. Sadly I can see physical paper books going away in the near future and libraries becoming virtual or just a place with computers open to the public to access data and porn.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
17. Worst case scenario...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:43 AM
Jun 2013

The internet gets blocked, shut down, or scrambled.

We should maintain our book collections along with all the documents or papyrus scrolls, or whatever. We've already lost way too many precious historical references. Library of Alexandria, Museum of Ancient history in Baghdad, Kabul National Museum of Antiquity...

Tax dollars for that purpose are surely not wasted.

Or is this just Captain Obvious reporting in?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
19. Other...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:15 AM
Jun 2013

It's been a few months for me, but my wife and daughter go at least a couple of times every month.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
21. At least once a week and the place is usually crowded.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jun 2013

It's a modern if underfunded library with free wi fi , lots of downloadable books and simple online reservation of their own media and ILL among regional libraries.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
23. I do not ride in a horse-powered buggy, but doesn't mean I forgo transportation
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jun 2013

What do I need with a library when I have a computer? Seriously, how is a brick and mortar library any better for me than the access we have now days?


On Edit: I should have mentioned, I am a regular user of two different County Libraries. My question above is only there for the sake of civil argument.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
24. I suppose if the only thing you're looking for is news or porn
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:19 AM
Jun 2013

you never have to leave home. But you can get free movie rentals, free cd rentals, free novels, free downloadable ebooks. Hell, you can get free wifi at most these days. So you can spend your hard-earned money twice by buying these things via Netflix, iTunes, and amazon and also via your taxes at the library, or you can just go to the library.

An edit: I read your edit! You old devil's advocate, you!!

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
27. PS: My favorite Public Library, nation-wide, was in Laramie, Wyoming
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jun 2013

Years ago I used to have to travel to some relatively obscure towns for my work and I liked to get out and walk around and see what they looked like and talk to people and so forth when I got the chance. The Public Library in Laramie, WY was a contemporary single-story brick building as I recall but it had a most beautiful stained glass piece in a large front window that I just loved. It was whimsical in an almost child-like way but gloriously enticing at the same time. I never saw a building that was so alluring. That is just what a library should be.

Years and years ago ... Who knows what its like now?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. I get books out of it
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:29 AM
Jun 2013

I refuse to buy them any more - no room.

I get movies from there too, but may not much more often, since they often won't play because they are old and scratched.

I also go there for a refuge if I have to work on something without phone or people interruption. Though last time I was there, a guy brought a kid in to help with her homework and actually talked out loud about it.

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
28. You should ask one of the librarians
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013

how to search for new movies on order in the online catalog. You'll get them before they're all scratched up. At my library they're always ordering new movies - not only the latest releases to dvd but also older films that have been circulated so often they need to be replaced.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
26. Why are seven people saying 'other'?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jun 2013

Don't we have choices of 'within the last month' and 'more than 5 years ago' plus everything that's in between?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
30. Also as a Friend of the Library I donate a lot of my used books to their sales. Our local library
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:35 PM
Jun 2013

has summer programs for youth and many interesting activities that are worth keeping them going. I have never read a book on-line nor do I have anything like a kindle. I like to read and have since I picked up a Zane Grey novel in 4th grade. I would hate to see everything go electronic.

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