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Tue May 28, 2013, 09:27 AM

FBI shared child porn to nab pedophiles; Washington home raided

BY LEVI PULKKINEN, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
Published 10:19 pm, Monday, May 27, 2013

The FBI seized and ran a child pornography service late last year as investigators worked to identify its customers, one Western Washington man allegedly among them.

Following a lengthy investigation, Nebraska-based agents raided the large child pornography service in November hoping to catch users who shared thousands of images showing children being raped, displayed and abused.

The Bureau ran the service for two weeks while attempting to identify more than 5,000 customers, according to a Seattle FBI agent's statements to the court. Court records indicate the site continued to distribute child pornography online while under FBI control; the Seattle-based special agent, a specialist in online crimes against children, detailed the investigation earlier this month in a statement to the court.

The investigation appears to mark a departure for the Bureau and other federal law enforcement agencies aiming to root out child porn purveyors.

Historically, child pornography investigations stem from tips made to law enforcement, interactions with undercover officers posing as customers or reviews of documentation seized during searches of child porn clearinghouses like the one recently raided in Nebraska. While investigators are known to have posed as child porn dealers – a 2011 effort involved targeted emails to suspected pedophiles – it is not apparent that the FBI previously dealt child porn as part of a sting.


Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/FBI-shared-child-porn-to-nab-pedophiles-4552044.php

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Reply FBI shared child porn to nab pedophiles; Washington home raided (Original post)
n2doc May 2013 OP
gollygee May 2013 #1
msanthrope May 2013 #3
msanthrope May 2013 #2
enlightenment May 2013 #4
jeff47 May 2013 #5
enlightenment May 2013 #6
Dash87 May 2013 #7
eissa May 2013 #9
enlightenment May 2013 #12
shawn703 May 2013 #8
jeff47 May 2013 #13
Pragdem May 2013 #10
Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #11

Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 09:34 AM

1. How does this work?

Is it computer altered so it isn't of real kids, or are they getting permission from families whose kids have had pornographic photos taken of them?

OK here's what the article says: "Court records do not note how many images of raped and abused children were shared or accessed while the FBI was operating “Website A.” Investigators also do not indicate whether known victims of child pornography – abused children pictured in widely distributed pornographic series – have been notified photos of their abuse were again shared as part of the investigation."

If photos of a child of mine were involved, I'd be pretty upset.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #1)

Tue May 28, 2013, 09:50 AM

3. Read the paragraph before your quote--no way to get the user info otherwise. As for the children

 

depicted, it's not as if these guys post names and dates---each picture needs to be investigated. It's entirely probable that the families themselves are complicit in the abuse.

I can see why you would do this for 2 weeks, in the hopes that you would get the user information and then track through each user hopefully, the victim. No easy answers here.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 09:45 AM

2. I think you left out the most important part of the article---the reason why:

 





On Nov. 9, a U.S. District Court judge in Nebraska approved a request by law enforcement agents to track down the website’s users.

According to the agent’s statement, investigators were unable to identify “Website A” users through the service’s records. Allowing the site to continue to operate – allowing pedophiles to continue swapping photos and accessing images stored on the site – was necessary to identify the customers.
Court records do not note how many images of raped and abused children were shared or accessed while the FBI was operating “Website A.” Investigators also do not indicate whether known victims of child pornography – abused children pictured in widely distributed pornographic series – have been notified photos of their abuse were again shared as part of the investigation.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/FBI-shared-child-porn-to-nab-pedophiles-4552044.php#ixzz2UavBK9Pc



That they ran it for two weeks for a limited purpose is one of those pragmatic and gut-wrenching decisions I am glad I do not have to make.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 09:51 AM

4. Isn't this entrapment?

I thought that was illegal.

I know child pornography is illegal - how is it legal for the FBI to run an illegal operation to catch people doing something illegal?

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Tue May 28, 2013, 09:55 AM

5. No, it's not entrapment

The FBI is making it available, and then seeing who comes to get it. There's no pressure by the FBI to break the law.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #5)

Tue May 28, 2013, 10:03 AM

6. Okay - I wasn't sure. Thanks.

I still don't think that breaking the law to catch law-breakers is necessarily a good thing.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Tue May 28, 2013, 10:18 AM

7. Not at all, since the 'customers' find the website on their own.

Had the FBI not taken over, they would have still used the website. Many were also customers before and after the takeover.

Entrapment, on the other hand, would be tricking people into going to the website (like, for instance, telling people that it's a website for getting coupons, and then arresting them if they clicked the link).

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #4)

Tue May 28, 2013, 12:00 PM

9. Don't care if it was

Pedophiles are the lowest of the lows. Not about to defend anyone on any basis who gets his kicks off watching/engaging in child rape. Sick mother fuckers

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Response to eissa (Reply #9)

Tue May 28, 2013, 05:18 PM

12. Well, I was asking a question -

which was answered, twice. Not sure I equate asking the question with defending the people who engage in this vile practice.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 10:37 AM

8. Sometimes my opposition to the death penalty is tested

This is one of those cases.

Most often, though, “Website A” users chatted about their shared interests – the rape and molestation of children. Message threads on the site included “How to lure a child in my car,” “Meeting other pedos in real life,” and “Do kids LIKE anal sex?”


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Response to shawn703 (Reply #8)

Tue May 28, 2013, 05:45 PM

13. Well, if you are wanting a severe punishment

Just remember what happens to child molesters serving life in prison.

If they were given the option, I think a large number of them would choose execution over life in prison.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 12:07 PM

10. Releasing this news will serve as a great deterrent as well.

 

Sick fucks.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Tue May 28, 2013, 01:44 PM

11. I'm glad I didn't have that job. N.T.

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