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Sat May 25, 2013, 08:05 PM

Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...?

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..to post favorable comments on DU?

Sometimes I think so. But I cannot swear in an affidavit that I know for sure...

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Reply Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...? (Original post)
kentuck May 2013 OP
Agschmid May 2013 #1
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olddots May 2013 #3
darkangel218 May 2013 #41
Kolesar May 2013 #4
galileoreloaded May 2013 #5
winter is coming May 2013 #6
msanthrope May 2013 #7
Voice for Peace May 2013 #10
msanthrope May 2013 #46
cynatnite May 2013 #8
SteveG May 2013 #141
MineralMan May 2013 #9
ohiosmith May 2013 #11
Logical May 2013 #28
ohiosmith May 2013 #37
nolabear May 2013 #12
stevenleser May 2013 #18
UTUSN May 2013 #13
Tuesday Afternoon May 2013 #19
siligut May 2013 #131
LittleBlue May 2013 #14
Skip Intro May 2013 #15
stevenleser May 2013 #26
Skip Intro May 2013 #51
stevenleser May 2013 #60
Skip Intro May 2013 #66
stevenleser May 2013 #68
hay rick May 2013 #16
Cleita May 2013 #22
patrice May 2013 #48
ProSense May 2013 #33
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ProSense May 2013 #69
Skip Intro May 2013 #71
SidDithers May 2013 #74
hay rick May 2013 #83
ProSense May 2013 #85
woo me with science May 2013 #122
ProSense May 2013 #149
woo me with science May 2013 #150
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GoneFishin May 2013 #116
rhett o rick May 2013 #133
treestar May 2013 #142
hay rick May 2013 #147
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pnwmom May 2013 #17
Trajan May 2013 #25
Cleita May 2013 #20
Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #102
ProSense May 2013 #21
kentuck May 2013 #23
stevenleser May 2013 #29
kentuck May 2013 #44
stevenleser May 2013 #45
kentuck May 2013 #59
stevenleser May 2013 #65
kentuck May 2013 #87
ProSense May 2013 #40
kentuck May 2013 #47
stevenleser May 2013 #53
kentuck May 2013 #67
stevenleser May 2013 #73
kentuck May 2013 #80
stevenleser May 2013 #103
patrice May 2013 #61
Bobbie Jo May 2013 #99
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ProSense May 2013 #63
kentuck May 2013 #70
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kentuck May 2013 #84
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Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #86
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MannyGoldstein May 2013 #90
kentuck May 2013 #92
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:07 PM

1. Chirp... Chirp...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:08 PM

2. Well gosh do you think a person would admit that? I am not and I am sure many aren't.

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:09 PM

3. I am

 

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Response to olddots (Reply #3)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:51 PM

41. I freakin knew it!!!

 



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:11 PM

4. I gave him hundreds of dollars

I am that sort of Duer

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:12 PM

5. i can think of one candidate.....

 

but given the importance of social media, and at its core DU is social media, it is a valid and intelligent strategy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:14 PM

6. DU has all sorts of flying monkeys. Who knows where they roost at night? n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:14 PM

7. Me. PM me for opportunities. nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #7)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:23 PM

10. should we include social security number & credit card numbers in the pm?

 

so you can run a background check?

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #10)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

46. No. I have them already. nt

 

Last edited Sun May 26, 2013, 01:17 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:16 PM

8. Oh, yeah...

'Cause I'm gonna come right out and admit it. Besides, isn't everyone who posts favorable comments in the employment of the WH?

Also, I think that would be an awesome job if it existed. I'd love to get paid to surf the tubes and post nice positive things about the WH and our government.

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Response to cynatnite (Reply #8)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:13 PM

141. me too

I could use the money. I'd like to get paid for work I am already doing.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:17 PM

9. No idea.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:25 PM

11. This post was alerted on. The jury voted 4/2 to let it stand.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

At Sun May 26, 2013, 12:11 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...?
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this is ridiculous and will likely turn into a Meta type mess.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun May 26, 2013, 12:23 AM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: So what? Leave it!
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Agree with alerter. Ridiculous, accusatory and unproductive.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This post is NOT disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate, in my opinion.
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Response to ohiosmith (Reply #11)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:46 PM

28. LOL, I bet the alerter is the one who is on the payroll! n-t

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #28)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:49 PM

37. Makes cents!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:27 PM

12. Okay I'll bite. What makes you say that?

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Response to nolabear (Reply #12)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:35 PM

18. These accusations fly forth every now and then.

 

Accusations that some are paid by the DNC or White House, or that people critical of the admin are paid by the RNC or some other hated entity or that one or more folks are CIA, or various other conspiracy theories.

There was an article a while back that says that there are in fact people who get paid to troll websites for various groups. I have no idea where the author got their information and specific individuals or groups were never named.

The somewhat passive-aggressive nature of these accusations are pretty galling. The accusation is that no one could possibly disagree with me and believe the things that some of them are posting so they must be paid shills.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:28 PM

13. I work for free. & my input is not heard. n/t

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #13)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:36 PM

19. I hear ya !!

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #13)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:48 PM

131. Right, because who in their right mind would pay you?

You know I am kidding.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:29 PM

14. Pope Catholic

 

Bear woods etc.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:29 PM

15. Here's the thing...

Back during the 03/04 primaries there was a quite noticeable influx of Kerry supporters (many of whom tore into Dean supporters, if I remember correctly).

During the 07/08 primaries there was a quite noticeable influx of Obama supporters, many of whom went after Hillary supporters, and I do remember that correctly.

Seems clear to me that at crucial times, when the swaying of Democrats online is considered good strategy by the party or campaign powers that be, DU is among sites targeted for such attempted swaying. And to persuade the most tenacious to undertake and sustain such effort, it isn't hard to suspect some financial compensation for services rendered.

So, for me, it is almost certain that some people are paid to be online and to spread talking points in an effort to either promote a particular candidate or issue, or to spin away negative and possibly harmful news for those already in power. I would be shocked if such online efforts/campaigns don't exist.

Having said all that, there are one or two here, with substantial post counts (not sure about newer members) who have struck me for some time as being tireless in their particular crusades. I can only conclude that these are compensated for their perpetual cheer-leader-like/bash-all-who-question-or-criticize efforts to sway opinion.

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #15)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:45 PM

26. There is an Occam's Razor kind of response to your suggestions and it goes like this...

 

"Most Americans do not get involved in politics until right before primary and/or election time..."

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #26)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:58 PM

51. That might explain some of it, but not all.

One or two here who are in full-on spin mode 24-7 and have been for some time.

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #51)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:02 PM

60. I've been accused of that too, but I can specifically point to three disagreements with the admin

 

most recently on the Social Security/Medicare cuts on which I hit the admin hard on my radio show for two weeks straight.

But I still get accused of never disagreeing with the administration. I think the accusations are simply wrong.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #60)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

66. In every case?

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #66)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:06 PM

68. Do you know for sure that those accused have never disagreed with the administration?

 

Even on DU its hard to know what any one person's entire posting history is. Expand that to real world of which we have very little information about most posters and how are you able to say that a person never disagrees with the administration?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:31 PM

16. "One" poster has a library of links on the ready and...

replies in a very formulaic way. Just sayin'.

Of course, some folks are just big BHO fans and can always find a reason to say "Amen." Truthfully, I think DU is just a blip on the WH radar screen and is more valuable to TPTB as an early warning system than as a propaganda outlet...

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:40 PM

22. I think you are right and although there are some

propagandists that post regularly, who knows who they work for or if they are just true believers in the party line.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #22)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

48. It's possible to think almost ALL of it is propaganda, because so much of what happens here is

heavily one-sided, zero sum thinking coming from all directions.

Anything, Left or Right, that mis-characterizes reality so heavily could be called propaganda.

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:48 PM

33. Is

"'One' poster has a library of links on the ready and..."

...a "library of links" proof of being paid by some?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2421225
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2762452

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Response to ProSense (Reply #33)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:59 PM

52. .

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #52)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:07 PM

69. Shameless

self-promotion:

CONFIRMED: Fox News Hack James Rosen Is A Political Operative, Not A Journalist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022897356

Krugman: Obamacare Will Be A Debacle For Republicans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022896115

The RW hate Holder in part because of his defense of voting rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022894538

Jobless claims show sharp improvement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022889566

"The American left remained strong into the mid-20th century..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2900045



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Response to ProSense (Reply #69)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:07 PM

71. What are you trying to say? n/t

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Response to ProSense (Reply #33)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:08 PM

74. Awesome...



Sid

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Response to ProSense (Reply #33)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:18 PM

83. Thanks for the hearts.

I wrote my post but evidently didn't read it as I missed the part about a library of links being "proof of being paid by some (sic)."

I'm impressed to see you rushed to defend your colleague, woo me with science. You can quote me...

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Response to hay rick (Reply #83)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:20 PM

85. Ah,

"I'm impressed to see you rushed to defend your colleague, woo me with science. You can quote me..."



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Response to hay rick (Reply #83)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:28 PM

122. ROFL!

I, woo me with science, solemnly affirm that nobody pays me or employs me to post, nor is any of my posting, or the fact that I post here, connected in any way to any organization, group, or person other than myself.


I've posted this before and invited others to affirm the same. Prosense has never taken me up on it.



I've always said that I believe commercials should be labeled as such.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #122)

Sun May 26, 2013, 12:02 AM

149. Hey

I, woo me with science, solemnly affirm that nobody pays me or employs me to post, nor is any of my posting, or the fact that I post here, connected in any way to any organization, group, or person other than myself.


I've posted this before and invited others to affirm the same. Prosense has never taken me up on it.

...can you post the original link to that statement? You said you posted it before. I'lll use that:

I, ProSense, solemnly affirm that nobody pays me or employs me to post, nor is any of my posting, or the fact that I post here, connected in any way to any organization, group, or person other than myself.

There, now anyone threatened by my posts can rest easy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2897946
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2898045

Can you link to me accusing you or anyone of being paid?

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Response to ProSense (Reply #149)

Sun May 26, 2013, 12:41 AM

150. Well, thank you!

We can only hope this is more convincing than your "Newscorpse" performance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022897356#op
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022897356#post20





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Response to ProSense (Reply #33)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:35 PM

130. Bwah!

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:58 PM

116. I have noticed. Also, articulate walls of text produced seemingly faster than one could type, as

though there might be multiple persons using the same avatar.

Further, flip the question around. If a candidate has campaign funds to spend, is it a reasonable investment to pay individuals to promote that candidates message on the internet? I think the answer is yes. And I doubt that I am alone. No doubt this occurs. Regarding DU, I don't know. But probability strongly suggests it.

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:51 PM

133. I finally put her on ignore after getting hidden for questioning her. Seems she has fans on juries.

 

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:24 PM

142. What is wrong with having links exactly?

Those who don't have any are ctriticized for that too.

Some people are just interested and get information on what they are interested in.

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Response to treestar (Reply #142)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:53 PM

147. I'm not complaining about links.

I'm profiling a poster whose posts generally look like this:

subject line...
link, link, link (optional)
quoted material from original post
subject line continued to form a complete sentence
ROFL smiley

Actually, now that I think about it, I do have a problem with links sometimes- like when the poster thinks that they should only write one sentence, but you should have to to visit and read 3 or 4 other threads if you want to respond...

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Response to hay rick (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:26 PM

143. I observe that there are niches of specialty in corporate propaganda.

beside the famous and familiar Blue Link gig.

There is the Distract and Insult Patrol. I think this job goes to the least intelligent of applicants, as it requires only the ability to *recognize* threads critical of corporate policy and fill them with distractions and insults.

There is the Blind Team Loyalty Brigade, which specializes in fomenting pure partisan hatred and reflexive, emotional defense of anything Blue. They post stories of serial killers who may have been Republican and respond to legitimate criticism of corporate policy by warning never to criticize a Democrat, so as to prevent Republicans from eating your baby.

But the gig I envy most is the Warm and Fuzzy propaganda gig. These are the ones who get to post all the haloed pictures and slow-motion video of Obama shirtless with Bo at the beach, using words like "glory," "sublimity," and "triumph."




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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:32 PM

17. I'm beginning to feel sure there are people paid to represent the e-cig makers.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #17)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:45 PM

25. I'm paid ...

 

by the increased amount of oxygen my blood now carries to the rest of my vital organs, thanks to my switch to E- cigs ...

I am glad you don't make the rules ....

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:38 PM

20. Not me but I'm looking for a job.

Since I'm here anyway, I wouldn't mind getting paid for it, however, I'm not a huge cheerleader of either entity when they are wrong, so I guess I wouldn't get hired.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #20)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:38 PM

102. I think we should start a new group = how to get jobs in the government

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:40 PM

21. People

"Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...?"

...tell me that I am all the time. They imply, make up silly names and use other tactics to try to get to the bottom of their silly conspiracy. Some people are obsessed with the thought.

I sometimes want to post...never mind, that would get be hidden. Mostly, I simply laugh that people are consumed by the thought.

LOL!

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Response to ProSense (Reply #21)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:43 PM

23. Thanks for clearing that up, ProSense...

Where would anyone ever get the idea??

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Response to kentuck (Reply #23)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:46 PM

29. See my #18 for the thinking involved. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #29)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:53 PM

44. Perhaps we should call the DOJ?

Some things are just better to keep secret or classified. We can't have any of that "free press" stuff around here...

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Response to kentuck (Reply #44)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

45. You want to call the DOJ because people disagree with you? A little overboard, no? nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #45)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:02 PM

59. Ask Eric Holder?

He might know more than I on that subject?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #59)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

65. On the subject of whether people disagree with you? I think you know better than Holder. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #65)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:27 PM

87. Sorry Steven...

I was being facetious. The DOJ is very intent on sealing leaks and making sure that the media knows they are being watched. Sometimes sunlight is the best disinfectant, as they say.

I personally do not know anyone that is paid on DU but I know that some people think there might be? I prefer to discus subject matters in the open rather than letting them fester.

Secrecy and control of information is not something I am inclined to defend.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #23)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:51 PM

40. Well, Kentuck

"Where would anyone ever get the idea??"

...I don't really know what goes on in anyone's head. People believe a lot of things, and nothing anyone says is going to changed that.

I mean, you started a thread about the issue so you would know better about where anyone would "get that idea."

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Response to ProSense (Reply #40)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

47. I think it mostly comes from posters that defend everything the White House does....

..without question.

Nobody is right 100% of the time. Not you. Not I. And not the White House.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #47)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:59 PM

53. As I said in my post #18, you simply cannot believe others believe certain things. Its not that you

 

necessarily think they are paid. You should just say that. "I cannot believe you believe that."

Of course people believe all kinds of crazy things, things that are much more crazy than believing the White House hasn't as yet erred.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #53)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

67. Why do you think this post got such instant response?

The question is a rather bland and simple one.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #67)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:08 PM

73. The same reason Alex Jones has a syndicated radio show. Conspiracy theories excite people.

 

Make believe cloak and dagger stuff sells a lot of advertising and tickets and books.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #73)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:15 PM

80. But don't you have a radio show, also??

But seriously, I know you would never lower yourself to the Alex Jones level. Conspiracy theories do not exist in a vacuum. There must be an audience. For there to be an audience, there usually has to be a reason.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #80)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:38 PM

103. Ah, but I am not yet syndicated. I play on one AM station in SoCal and on the internet.

 

Sensationalism like conspiracy theories or the kind of garbage Rush Limbaugh throws out there is an express ticket to syndication. It's harder if you play it straight.

Honestly, I think that is all that was needed for this OP to take off the conspiracy suggestion. It gets everybody's juices flowing.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #47)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:03 PM

61. That's true and the reciprocal of that is true too. There appear to be posters here who

meet every bit of information and any ambiguity with 100% negative conclusions nearly 100% of the time.

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Response to patrice (Reply #61)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:37 PM

99. Which actually seems more likely.nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #61)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:28 PM

123. Exactly.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #47)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

63. And

I think it mostly comes from posters that defend everything the White House does....

..without question.

Nobody is right 100% of the time. Not you. Not I. And not the White House.

...in the scheme of things, this (supporting the President) is such a pressing problem that it must be resolved?

I don't agree with your characterization because "defending" or supporting the WH doesn't mean anyone is "right 100% of the time." It's also doesn't explain why you would think that someone who does so is "paid by the Democratic Party or the White House."

Still, why does that bother you?

There are people who only post anti-Obama pieces. Do you think they're paid? Do you worry about that?


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Response to ProSense (Reply #63)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:07 PM

70. "There are people who only post anti-Obama pieces."

And they usually catch hell for it, too.

Do I worry about it? No, not really. I believe in free speech. Lies and propaganda will eventually be exposed.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #70)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:11 PM

77. Maybe

"And they usually catch hell for it, too. "

...but I've never accused anyone of being paid, nor do I worry about that. Why bother?

I think people have agendas, but why should I worry about whether or not a long-time DUer is paid?

People rally to stomp out trolls, but following behind someone for years and implying that they're paid is weird.

"Do I worry about it? No, not really. I believe in free speech. Lies and propaganda will eventually be exposed. "

Well, here we are discussing it.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #77)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:19 PM

84. But why so defensive?

The post simply asked: "Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...?" It did not make any accusations. However, some folks must think that to be the case, judging from the responses? Discuss.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #84)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:29 PM

89. Actually,

"The post simply asked: 'Is there anyone on DU that is paid by the Democratic Party or the White House...?' It did not make any accusations. However, some folks must think that to be the case, judging from the responses? Discuss."

...this is where this subthread started, with an entirely different question: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2902106

Yeah, I sure "some folks" think that.

Seriously, the effort put into this, the sneaky comments, the innuendo, the indirect accusations, the subtle digs, the "I'm not saying I believe it, but..."

...it has over the years become friggin hilarious. Hell, I had to stop posting the "blue linky" (I was becoming embarrassed for some people) and retired The List (not really). Ever notice that some people only hate lists that show Obama's accomplishments?

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Response to ProSense (Reply #89)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:32 PM

91. I think it is more...

that familiarity breeds contempt.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #91)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:37 PM

100. Does

"I think it is more...that familiarity breeds contempt."

...that apply to the anti-Obama lists? Also, what does that have to do with obsessing over the thought that people are paid?

Look at this thread. It's not like it's a secret who is getting under people's skin.

Hey, bring your best argument. Stop hiding behind conspiracy theories. None of the silliness is going to change anything.

Don't like the positive Obama stuff, oh well!



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Response to ProSense (Reply #100)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:45 PM

106. Yes, I think it applies to anti-Obama threads also.

I think a lot of people here want the truth, not necessarily "my side" vs "their side". Once that tactic is taken, the truth becomes secondary. I think people can be critical of their Party if they think they are wrong, and still support it over the Republican Party. I don't think that weakens our Party - I think it strengthens it.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #106)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:50 PM

111. You

"I think a lot of people here want the truth, not necessarily 'my side' vs 'their side'. Once that tactic is taken, the truth becomes secondary. I think people can be critical of their Party if they think they are wrong, and still support it over the Republican Party. I don't think that weakens our Party - I think it strengthens it. "

...started a thread specifically about people being paid by the "Democratic Party or the White House."



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Response to kentuck (Reply #47)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:32 PM

127. As far as a certain "Pro" I can say

No one was more upset at Obama than she was when he first proposed the chained cpi idea in his attempted budget deal a few months back.

She even went and started an offsite petition with another member here (one she rarely agrees with) to try and get the WH to rescind the idea.

She's an Obama fan, but not one who has a financial stake in his administration.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #23)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:35 PM

96. yes, how on EARTH could anyone ever THINK such a thing?

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Response to ProSense (Reply #21)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:52 PM

43. Laughing at personal attacks is the best response...

I find.

Sid

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:45 PM

24. I am 99% sure one poster is. Very Obvious. And the defenses of EVERYTHING is unbelievable. n-t

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:45 PM

27. Are there any so called progressives on the payroll of the RNC?

My question is as valid as yours.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:48 PM

32. I would agree.

Maybe you would like to expound on the matter?

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:49 PM

36. While I think the chances are remote in either direction, I think RNC funding of someone to try

 

and depress enthusiasm for Democratic candidates and issues here is much more likely.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:52 PM

42. .



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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:01 PM

58. Third Way gold!

If I don't agree with the White House on every issue I must be a troll. The Republicans are paying me!

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:51 PM

113. You rock!

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #27)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:27 PM

144. Exactly

And which try to get us to give up on the Democrats?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:46 PM

30. Wait they're paying............

Sheeeeeeeeet. I was told I'd get a unicorn!!!!!!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:47 PM

31. Apparently I am paid by the BFEE...

or so they say.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #31)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:50 PM

112. Got a link?

None that show you being accused of being on the BFEE payroll come up on GOOGLE.

One thread regarding you being on the NRA payroll did come up.

That's not the BFEE, though.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #112)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:56 PM

115. You must have not searched very hard.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2261046
"Are you paid by the post or are you paid by the hour, zappaman?"


So who were you accusing of paying me, my old friend?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #115)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:05 PM

118. Where does it say 'BFEE'?

That is an assumption, something that exists in your mind.

Are you feeling guilty about something?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #118)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:33 PM

128. My bad.

Again I ask you who were you referring to?
Do you still think I am being paid to post here or did you see the errors of your assumption?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:48 PM

34. I would be happy to oblige, where do I apply?

I work cheap!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:48 PM

35. I used to get accused of being on the Kremlin's payroll, but Washington's?

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:50 PM

38. Me is :p

 

I get free cookies and milk and stuff : )

X

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:50 PM

39. How come you didn't ask if there's anyone on DU paid by anyone, not just the DP or WH?

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Response to patrice (Reply #39)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:00 PM

55. Good question.

I'm sure some of the RW trolls are paid, but I really don't understand why the party or the White House would feel the need to pay people to post here. It's not like the president has a 20% approval rating, or anything like that.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #55)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:10 PM

76. I think there are too many anti-Obama people here for that to work well for the WH. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:55 PM

49. no popcorn?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:56 PM

50. I'm an unpaid DU poster. I'm unemployed - IF anyone wants to hire me to post on DU just let me know


LOL



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 08:59 PM

54. According to informed sources here at DU, ...

 

... I am employed by:

-- the DLC
-- the Obama administration
-- the GOP
-- Monsanto
-- NASA
-- Ron Paul for President campaign

There are others I cannot recall.

All untrue.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:01 PM

56. I would not be surprised

 

either way, anything goes in the information age.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:01 PM

57. The NDP feeds me at volunteer functions. Does that count?

Then they want donations

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:03 PM

62. When we had standards, which seems like a long, long time ago, internet forums used to requrie that

anyone who was working for a political party was required to inform the members of their affiliations.

Sadly, we found out later that there were political operatives on forums which presented themselves as independent, posing as 'ordinary citizens'. Anyone who commented on their suspicions at that time, back in 2002-03-04 were instantly banned. But not too much later it was admitted that they had been correct.

Political operatives have destroyed what started out as a place for ordinary people to simply express their opinions. I have no doubt there are always political operatives on any forum where they believe they can influence public opinion. The truth is they have always been so divisive that any attempt to do what they are apparently supposed to do, has failed.

I am certain that, just as happened in the past, those who are paid operatives will be revealed as such and no one will be surprised.


However, considering the failure of this strategy, and a book could be written about how the internet was infiltrated, you have to wonder why they keep doing it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #62)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:16 PM

81. Money.

 

I can't imagine there being another reason for it. They keep trying, I remember how bad it was here during GWB. Although we did all have some huge laughs at the epic burnouts by some of them. I don't care if they feel insecure and hide it, whatever.

Clearly some still linger around here I am sure. Probably learned something from DU over the years like I've been told by a few former Rs that are now converted DUers. And then there are the holdovers from the Reagan era. My how confusing it must have been\be to learn your party was 100% wrong and try to adapt.

Since they made it into a game now, hide if you must. We will find you. The game is on.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

64. I don't know.

But if there are, I suspect there are a lot more posters paid by right-wing groups than posters paid by the left.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:08 PM

72. Real Pros wouldn't be so obvious

See, a real Pro would let the occasional minor thing slide so as to help maintain their credibility for the important stuff.

The boy who never ever cries wolf despite half his flock disappearing is just as uncredible as the the one who cries wolf when nothing is there.



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:10 PM

75. I find it hard to believe you are asking that.

Why? Because opinions differ?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:12 PM

78. Then why wouldn't EVERYONE just sign up to get paid top post on DU?

 

Do you have a link to where this WH job offer is?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:14 PM

79. Or paid by any group or individual? Like a shadowy super-pac maybe.

Some of the posts really seem like a person at work.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:18 PM

82. If they are, the Party and administration are not getting much quality for the money

 

nt

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #82)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:36 PM

97. yup: they make fools of themselves

hard to take them seriously

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Response to Skittles (Reply #97)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:44 PM

105. Wait

"yup: they make fools of themselves hard to take them seriously"

...you know who "they" are? Please, tell us.

CONFIRMED: Fox News Hack James Rosen Is A Political Operative, Not A Journalist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022897356

Krugman: Obamacare Will Be A Debacle For Republicans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022896115

The RW hate Holder in part because of his defense of voting rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022894538

Jobless claims show sharp improvement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022889566

"The American left remained strong into the mid-20th century..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2900045


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Response to ProSense (Reply #105)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:15 PM

119. you know EXACTLY who THEY are

people who CHEERLEAD FOR A LIVING - stop acting as though people like Paul Krugman is one of them - HE ISN'T - when it's good he says so but WHEN IT IS NOT GOOD HE SAYS SO TOO - *LEARN* from that

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Response to Skittles (Reply #119)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:27 PM

121. Wait

"you know EXACTLY who THEY are people who CHEERLEAD FOR A LIVING - stop acting as though people like Paul Krugman is one of them - HE ISN'T - when it's good he says so but WHEN IT IS NOT GOOD HE SAYS SO TOO - *LEARN* from that"

...I do? Why can't you tell everyone who "THEY" are?

You're upset that my posts are making Paul Krugman look like he's a person who "CHEERLEAD FOR A LIVING"?

You seem awfully upset about something.

Krugman: Insurance and Freedom
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636098

Krugman: "But that says more about the complainers than it does about Obama himself."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022779286

Krugman: "Wheee! The Heritage Foundation is engaged in frantic damage control"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022825423

Krugman: Where Are The Deficit Celebrations?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022874877

Krugman: Obamacare Will Be A Debacle For Republicans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022896115



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:22 PM

86. I think it only makes sense that there is one or more pro. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:28 PM

88. I confess.

 

You got me. I knew it couldn't go on forever.

But I had a good run, no?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #88)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:33 PM

93. The umbrella gave you away. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #90)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:32 PM

92. You were fooling no one, Goldstein...

A lot of people had your number from the beginning.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #92)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:34 PM

95. How did I post twice in the same thread?

 

Better get to bed.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:34 PM

94. oh YOU KNOW there are

AND WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE

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Response to Skittles (Reply #94)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:52 PM

134. There's something that bothers me about you, Skittles.

You're too shy. You never lay things on the line.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:37 PM

98. Yes, even though they deny it.

 

Cowardly.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #98)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:50 PM

132. lol

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:38 PM

101. Do you think that anyone would ever openly admit to that?

 

In the final analysis, it's irrelevant. Most partisans don't need to be paid to do the same sort of work.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:42 PM

104. I am.

I don't think i've told anybody before, so I outing myself now.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:47 PM

107. All I know for sure is that there are jerks and idiots, with some nice people to balance it all out.

Of course, 7 people think I'm a jerk and/or idiot... so people's opinions are going to vary.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:47 PM

108. I am not paid to post on DU, but I would if the pay was right. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:48 PM

109. I think there are some paid by the Republibaggers, that's for sure. n/t

 

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Response to Whisp (Reply #109)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:52 PM

146. I woo d tend to agree with you. nt

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Response to Whisp (Reply #109)

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:28 AM

152. You Better Believe It! nt

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:48 PM

110. If so, then the White House or Democratic party need to ask for their money back...

 

due to piss poor performance.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #110)

Sat May 25, 2013, 09:53 PM

114. Isn't it

"If so, then the White House or Democratic party need to ask for their money back. due to piss poor performance."

...curious that so many people feel threatened by incompetent posters who they believe are "paid"?



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:05 PM

117. So if Democrats have to be paid to support Democrats

on a Democratic web site, Republicans must be winning by landslides and I must have slept through that election.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:19 PM

120. I would guess the exact opposite actually.

I can't go with you on this one, kentuck. I'm thinking that most Dem officials, including anyone related to the Obama admin would be explicitly told not to post anything anywhere. And that would definitely include DU. They may read it, but they would not have accounts or post, IMO.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #120)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:31 PM

126. Next

"I would guess the exact opposite actually. I can't go with you on this one, kentuck. I'm thinking that most Dem officials, including anyone related to the Obama admin would be explicitly told not to post anything anywhere. And that would definitely include DU. They may read it, but they would not have accounts or post, IMO."

...GOP scandal: Obama's paid army of DU posters.



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Response to gulliver (Reply #120)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:37 PM

145. There's a lot of money in politics these days.

Of course, somebody on the White House staff would not be paid to pseudonymously support talking points on discussion boards. The risk/reward ratio would be insanely negative. Ditto paid Democratic Party staffers. On the other hand, there are 501(c)(4) organizations that could fund that kind of activity without much fear of negative consequences. I think it is plausible that someone could be paid to advocate "for the Party" but not by the Party. Note I said plausible and not likely.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:29 PM

124. I tried to but since the sequester,

their freakin' checks have been bouncing. Damn - there goes my Mercedes!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:30 PM

125. Yes, everytime I post something sweet about my awesome President

I get a pony. And an occasional unicorn.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:34 PM

129. So glad that you are on top of such a riveting, important issue.



Did you perhaps miss or misunderstand the mission, the very PURPOSE of this web site?

Anyone THIS concerned about pro-Dem comments on a pro-Dem site... I'll just leave it at that.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:52 PM

135. Favorable comments about what?

Are you suggesting no "real" Democrat would be supportive of the President?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #135)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:58 PM

148. Exactly. Crazy that democrats say positive things about Obama! MUST be a VAST conspiracy.

A vast conspiracy -- hundreds, or thousands, of secret employees working for the federal government visiting DU (?? It is already pro-democrat...) posting positive comments about the president and the democratic overlords...because everyone knows that people are persuaded to change their views all the time as the result of reading other comments on websites.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:53 PM

136. It is a Democratic board

So no one cam disrupt from that side. Anyone who finds support of Democrats disruptive is on the wrong board.

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Response to treestar (Reply #136)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:08 PM

140. I know

God forbid you actually support Democrats and a president you helped get elected.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:53 PM

137. I AM OPEN TO OFFERS

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:03 PM

138. I've been accused of being a Fed trolling Right Wingers

I've been on Conservative friends, friend's Facebook pages and have been told I'm a Fed spying on them. LOL.

The last time that happened was when these Conservative loons were proclaiming Sandy Hook was staged. I flat out told them they were living in some sort of fantasy land. They shot back that I was a Fed paid to spy on them. They were serious. They really believe Sandy Hook didn't happen because Adam Lanza was too small to shoot up the school. And the parents were all actors.

When I heard that and that they really believed I worked for the government and was spying on them I finally realized these people are really fucked up. LOL.







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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:05 PM

139. I am

I've made a ton of money this year. Beats working for a living.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:15 AM

151. hey I'm just a spy in the house of love

was not was or the dbs

take your choice !

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:29 AM

153. Without a doubt. /nt

 

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