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The Northerner

(5,040 posts)
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:31 PM Feb 2012

'Negro' remark lands parfumier in court

Jean-Paul Guerlain will appear in a Paris courtroom on Thursday to answer for remarks he made in a television interview that provoked controversy in France and abroad.

Guerlain, a descendant of the founder of the company that bears his name, was answering questions on the lunchtime news programme of France 2 in October 2010 about a new perfume.

"For once, I starter working like a negro," he said. "I don't know if negroes have always worked like that, but anyway..."

...

Guerlain will be present at the hearing on Thursday, according to his lawyer. The maximum sentence for a public insult of a racist nature is six months in prison and a fine of €22,500 ($30,000).

Read more: http://www.thelocal.fr/2525/20120209/


If only more people were tried for mentioning racist and bigoted slurs...

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'Negro' remark lands parfumier in court (Original Post) The Northerner Feb 2012 OP
Part of me believes they shouldn't Aerows Feb 2012 #1
Banning racist and homophobic speech isn't going to stop racism and homophobia XemaSab Feb 2012 #7
In some cases, it's better to have it out in the open Aerows Feb 2012 #8
Case in point: XemaSab Feb 2012 #9
Ugh customerserviceguy Feb 2012 #10
double UGH! dana_b Feb 2012 #11
It wasn't much of a slur Warpy Feb 2012 #2
Be careful what you wish for... MineralMan Feb 2012 #3
ITA with Mineral Man JustAnotherGen Feb 2012 #4
was that an insult or a complement? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #5
And "invisible sky monsters" would count as bigotry against Christians, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #6
If only more people had freedom of speech and thought... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #12
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
1. Part of me believes they shouldn't
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

Then part of me sees the bullying done to homosexuals like myself. In the end, anything that helps bring an end to bigotry and promotes understanding among people is okay in my book. We really need to stop hating each other over pettiness.

In the end, I'm an American when it comes down to it. My country comes together and doesn't implode because some people want to divide it upon bigoted lines for their own gain like right-wingers strive to do. They can do their own nasty business, but I'll do mine in the sun.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
7. Banning racist and homophobic speech isn't going to stop racism and homophobia
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:20 PM
Feb 2012

Which is "safer" for society, someone who says "Let's go kill a fag," or someone who says "Homosexuality is a lifestyle that I don't want my children exposed to?"

I would argue that in the case of the first, the person's obviously a crazy bigot and it's better for crazy bigotry to be out in the open where it can be denounced. For example, Fred Phelps's popularity is right up there with a rat that just crawled out of the toilet during a dinner party. In the second case, it's harder to fight something that seems like someone's opinion.

Does that make sense?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. In some cases, it's better to have it out in the open
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:36 PM
Feb 2012

I agree. "Homosexuality is a lifestyle...." is very different than "Let's go kill a fag".

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. Ugh
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
Feb 2012

I tried to watch it, but really couldn't stomach more than half of it. It's fun to see how fundies make themselves look like poor put-upon victims sometimes, but this was excruciating.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
2. It wasn't much of a slur
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

It was more a recognition that folks with the darkest skin have always had to work the hardest.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
3. Be careful what you wish for...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 05:45 PM
Feb 2012

"If only more people were tried for mentioning racist and bigoted slurs..."

There is a very good reason why such things are not against the law in the US. If you think for a minute or two, I'll bet you can come up with one or two, don't you think?

The laws of France are different from the laws in the US. Be thankful.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
5. was that an insult or a complement?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:00 PM
Feb 2012

Anyways that law is lame.

People should be free to speak racist things.

It makes it easier to identify racists.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. And "invisible sky monsters" would count as bigotry against Christians,
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
Feb 2012

or against other believers in a God, so people who used that phrase could be prosecuted?

Right?

 

JSnuffy

(374 posts)
12. If only more people had freedom of speech and thought...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:43 PM
Feb 2012

... even if you don't like it.

Oh wait, that's what we have now.

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