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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:42 AM May 2013

Huffington post calls on Eric Holder to resign over chronic abuse of authority

TIME TO GO: HOLDER OK'D PRESS PROBE



Currently on the front page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

The only problem is he will probably be replaced by another just as bad.

It's about time this joker step down and Obama rethink his many attacks on civil liberties.



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Huffington post calls on Eric Holder to resign over chronic abuse of authority (Original Post) limpyhobbler May 2013 OP
Well, ProSense May 2013 #1
all media (regular and altmedia) is No Media. Huffington herself btw is a libertarian republican. graham4anything May 2013 #6
Nice Reagan quote! nt Bonobo May 2013 #26
Actually a paraphrase of it. Did you know, Elizabeth Warren voted for Reagan? graham4anything May 2013 #28
No, I did not know that. nt Bonobo May 2013 #31
I don't protest against any democratic president, nor have I ever voted against one,nor will I. graham4anything May 2013 #32
The great Eric Holder? premium May 2013 #55
What is the motto of the politicians then? Fumesucker May 2013 #27
Every single protest against Pres.Obama & direct $$$ beneficiary are the republican party & Bush's graham4anything May 2013 #29
Oh for fuck's sake LondonReign2 May 2013 #56
Fox News has a license? Enrique May 2013 #34
Not necessary Danascot May 2013 #47
Ditch the Bu$hCo protocol Blue Owl May 2013 #2
If refusing to pursue war criminals and banksters is abuse of authority... upi402 May 2013 #3
Well, ProSense May 2013 #4
Actually the Pres should be impeached for using his office to block YeahSureRight May 2013 #24
You realize impeachment is intended to be about illegality. randome May 2013 #36
You must have missed how he had the State Department block Spain YeahSureRight May 2013 #37
I see your point but I disagree. randome May 2013 #39
+1000000 woo me with science May 2013 #19
But the "party over principal" people here love the man! Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #38
K&R woo me with science May 2013 #5
Republicans are going crazy over the fact that Holder signed off on the warrant for Rosen's emails ProSense May 2013 #7
Ooooh! Rallying into the Teams! woo me with science May 2013 #8
Ooooh ProSense May 2013 #9
I wish I could draw. woo me with science May 2013 #12
Tell the truth ProSense May 2013 #13
FYI ProSense May 2013 #10
Holder should have been gone a long time ago, woo me with science May 2013 #15
"but clearly he IS carrying out the corporate water of this administration" ProSense May 2013 #16
That's all you got? mick063 May 2013 #22
I'd take my chances with Biden byeya May 2013 #40
Joe Biden??? The former Senator from MBNA? bvar22 May 2013 #58
"Holder should have been gone a long time ago" NCTraveler May 2013 #50
K&R quinnox May 2013 #11
Matt Rothschild calls for Holder to resign limpyhobbler May 2013 #14
Thank you for this link. woo me with science May 2013 #17
I've subscribed to The Progressive for years. Rothschild is only one in a line of great editors. byeya May 2013 #41
why aren't you/they asking for that 'journalist's' resignation. Whisp May 2013 #18
For one thing, that guy doesn't work for us. Eric Holder does. limpyhobbler May 2013 #20
Media does not work for you either. Whisp May 2013 #21
This is just a thought, but if someone with Brooksley Born's knowledge of the financial mess midnight May 2013 #23
Many agree that Holder needs to go but who will replace him? YeahSureRight May 2013 #25
OH NOES!!! Not the Huffington Post! Major Hogwash May 2013 #30
The NRA warned us about Holder from the get go aikoaiko May 2013 #33
the opinion of the headline writer at Huff Post doesn't count for much Enrique May 2013 #35
That's to be expected from the AOL arm of Huffpost Submariner May 2013 #42
Oh, well, if Arianna "I Wear Political Opinions Like Fashions" Huffington says it... Arkana May 2013 #43
Yeah, just as bad - or even worse. Obama won't choose anyone who forestpath May 2013 #44
You mean like voting rights? You have a little hyperbole showing, there. randome May 2013 #45
The bad with Holder far outweighs the good. And his continuing attacks on forestpath May 2013 #46
In Memo To Employees, Ailes Blasts Obama Admin’s ‘Attempt To Intimidate Fox News’ ProSense May 2013 #48
0bama could appontment any number of DOJ professionals as "Acting" who would do better byeya May 2013 #49
Useful idiots on the left will be pied pipered into accepting any attacks on this President Pragdem May 2013 #51
People badly need something to rally around and Occupy did not reach its potential. randome May 2013 #53
It's time for Huffington Post to go Politicalboi May 2013 #52
The Site of Side Boobs otohara May 2013 #57
i think he needs to do too. his war on medical weed samsingh May 2013 #54
Yawn ... wake me when Rosen/ or an AP person actually gets into ANYTHING resembling actual TROUBLE brett_jv May 2013 #59
Others on the left who have called on Holder to go: alp227 May 2013 #60
interesting thanks. nt limpyhobbler May 2013 #61

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Well,
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:47 AM
May 2013

Huffington post calls on Eric Holder to resign over chronic abuse of authority

...has something in common with Drudge: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022894085

These media assholes are complicit. Fox Noise's license should have been yanked years ago.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. all media (regular and altmedia) is No Media. Huffington herself btw is a libertarian republican.
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:01 AM
May 2013

but then we always knew that.
SHe always reminded me of Zucky of facebook fame

People just assumed they are on my side.
But I never assumed that in the first place
So they lost me both from day one.

Trust? NEVER
verify? Always
once verified, one obviously finds NO trust.

Pay me and I will tell you what you want to hear. That is the motto of ALL media.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
28. Actually a paraphrase of it. Did you know, Elizabeth Warren voted for Reagan?
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:38 AM
May 2013

I only learned of that on this board.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
32. I don't protest against any democratic president, nor have I ever voted against one,nor will I.
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:51 AM
May 2013

too many non-democratic people to protest against so I will give a pass on protesting against the great Eric Holder,
who should be on the US Supreme Court, of that we all can agree

I could give 23 quick reason why people want Eric gone, all of which would be detrimental to any democratic supporter
as all 23 will benefit the republicans/alt repubs if Eric is gone.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
55. The great Eric Holder?
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:25 PM
May 2013

Eric Holder should be on the Supreme Court? No, I don't think we can agree on that.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
27. What is the motto of the politicians then?
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:38 AM
May 2013

Pay me and I will do what you want me to do.

It's the Golden Rule, he who has the Gold makes the Rules.

Cui bono? Who benefits?

Follow the money.



 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
29. Every single protest against Pres.Obama & direct $$$ beneficiary are the republican party & Bush's
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:44 AM
May 2013

and this has happened since Watergate where they never did tell us what the real reason of Watergate was-
they took Nixon down to get him out and hide a major fact

That being that Nixon sabatoged the peace talks by the legendary great LBJ who was about to end the war in 1968.
That took LBJ out of the race, and then Watergate took Nixon out of the race to stop that from being revealed

which led to the Bush family power

any protest now against anything the President does, leads directly to Bush family getting back into power.

ergo.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
56. Oh for fuck's sake
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:25 PM
May 2013

"any protest now against anything the President does, leads directly to Bush family getting back into power."

More performance art?

Danascot

(4,663 posts)
47. Not necessary
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:56 PM
May 2013

We just need a law like Canada's: Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast....any false or misleading news." .... so there's no Fox News in Canada.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/fox-news-will-not-be-moving-into-canada-after-all_b_829473.html

upi402

(16,854 posts)
3. If refusing to pursue war criminals and banksters is abuse of authority...
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:50 AM
May 2013

that's enough. If there's more, well that's too damn much reason to oust him.

This guy is no Democrat.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Well,
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:57 AM
May 2013

"This guy is no Democrat."

...some people say that about Obama. So maybe the President could be impeached for not being a Democrat. That's the easiest way to get rid of Holder.

The hyperbolic drivel being pushed in defense of Fox Noise is pathetic. The never-ending fanning of the anti-Obama flames has now moved to defending Roger Ailes' hacks.

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
24. Actually the Pres should be impeached for using his office to block
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:27 AM
May 2013

Actually the Pres should be impeached for using his office to block investigations of War Crimes by the Bush/Cheney Criminal cabal

I may be in the minority but at least I believe in the law and want it equally applied to all.

For the record IMHO the Pres is a DINO, just another corporate whore, he might as well have an (R) after his name and yes I held my nose and voted for him and felt dirty after.

Yes he has done some good but being marginally better then Bush is not saying much either.

Continued cheerleading and unequivocal support of the President does not hold much weight with me either and I have little respect for those that do.


 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. You realize impeachment is intended to be about illegality.
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:03 AM
May 2013

Electing to NOT prosecute someone is not illegal. And if you think our government is paralyzed now, how much worse would it be if Democrats tried to put Republicans in jail over political disagreements?

Like it or not, that's what the Iraq War would boil down to. Congress gave up its authority to declare war so the President did so. He had that power. He abused it but it was perfectly legal for him to do so.

Unfortunately.

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YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
37. You must have missed how he had the State Department block Spain
Fri May 24, 2013, 07:58 AM
May 2013

from investigating Bush and Co for war crimes for starters a few years ago.

IMHO he did not go after Bush and Co because he knew he would be just as guilty if he continued using America's Military to support US Global Corporate Interests.

CYA so to speak.






 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. I see your point but I disagree.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:07 AM
May 2013

It's politics. Letting another country prosecute a former President would have given far too much ammunition to Republicans to claim we were giving up our sovereignty.

Which I think we should do and start to play politics as an equal player, not a bully.

But Democrats would have lost ground in 2012 elections. It isn't fair and I wish it was different but that's how I see it.

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Republicans are going crazy over the fact that Holder signed off on the warrant for Rosen's emails
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:01 AM
May 2013

"Waaaaay too much abuse of authority going around these days. "

Republicans are going crazy over the fact that Holder signed off on the warrant for Rosen's emails
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022894085

The outrage!

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. Ooooh! Rallying into the Teams!
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:04 AM
May 2013

If REPUBLICANS oppose spying on journalists, DEMOCRATS should support it!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Ooooh
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:07 AM
May 2013

"Ooooh! Rallying into the Teams! If REPUBLICANS oppose spying on journalists, DEMOCRATS should support it!"

...if Drudge posts bullshit headline picked up by HuffPo, then it's legitimate. Let's all defend Fox.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2894138

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
12. I wish I could draw.
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:16 AM
May 2013

I would draw a great editorial cartoon of three pig corporatists in suits.

One would be standing in front of a crowd of Democrats, wearing a Democrat suit (but still obviously a pig corporatist underneath) pointing desperately off onto Stage Right and squealing, "Look! Over there! An evil Republican!"

The second one would be standing in front of a crowd of Republicans, wearing a Republican suit (also with a pig body) pointing desperately off onto Stage Left and squealing, "Look! Over there! An evil Democrat!"

And the third pig would be quietly stealing from the pockets of BOTH the Republicans and the Democrats their money, their futures, and their Constitutional protections.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Tell the truth
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:19 AM
May 2013
I would draw a great editorial cartoon of three pig corporatists in suits.

One would be standing in front of a crowd of Democrats, pointing desperately off onto Stage Right and squealing, "Look! Over there! An evil Republican!"

The second one would be standing in front of a crowd of Republicans, pointing desperately off onto Stage Left and squealing, "Look! Over there! An evil Democrat!"

And the third would be quietly stealing from the pockets of BOTH the Republicans and the Democrats their money, their futures, and their Constitutional protections.

...you're only interested in the second scenario.

To quote you: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2893967



woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
15. Holder should have been gone a long time ago,
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:32 AM
May 2013

but clearly he IS carrying the corporate water of this administration, including the escalated war on marijuana, waging war against the union and whistleblower protections of hundreds of thousands of federal employees, fighting for surveillance and strip searches of Americans, and letting criminal bankers walk free.

It's good to see you admit that Holder does work with the confidence and approval of the President though, given the constant apologism we have endured here for the past four years, suggesting that somehow the President is powerless to influence his own Justice Department and that he secretly abhors these assaults as much as Americans across the country do.

Of course he won't go: http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022839672#post24

24. I don't know. This is not the government I grew up with.

It seems to me that the corporatization of our government has been accompanied by a very disturbing change in attitude toward the people and our civil protections. Under Bush and now Obama, the stripping of our civil liberties and implementation of privacy invasions has become pretty damned brazen. The attitude to me feels more like, "What are you gonna do about it?"

I wish I were as confident as you that this will garner any shame at all. You can see from the usual apologist mouthpieces here that the arrogant spin in defense of the outrageous has already begun.


Over and over and over again...


ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. "but clearly he IS carrying out the corporate water of this administration"
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:34 AM
May 2013

Maybe you should push for Obama's impeachment.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
22. That's all you got?
Fri May 24, 2013, 03:44 AM
May 2013

The response sounds Tea Party-ish to me.

Since you brought it up. I won't cry if the Tea-Billies attempt to impeach. They won't get it done, but our President facilitating a corporate coup is rather worthy of a little public humiliation in my estimation.

At the rate he is going, I'm starting to believe it may be in our best interest for the wing nuts to obstruct everything the President is doing. We may not get the infrastructure rebuilt or deputy cabinet positions filled, but more importantly, we may also slow the corporate coup just long enough to get one last, desperate shot to put someone in office that isn't "all in" with ALEC ideology. Someone that doesn't have Goldman Sachs constantly in his ear to guide economic policy.



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
58. Joe Biden??? The former Senator from MBNA?
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:09 PM
May 2013

THAT Joe Biden.
That would be frying pan to the fire.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
50. "Holder should have been gone a long time ago"
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:07 PM
May 2013

Correction: Holder should not be there in the first place.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
11. K&R
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:15 AM
May 2013

This guy is an authoritarian asshole. Its a sad reflection on Obama that he seems so loyal to this guy. Thank you Arianna.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
14. Matt Rothschild calls for Holder to resign
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:28 AM
May 2013

Last edited Fri May 24, 2013, 03:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Matt Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, calls for Holder to resign

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017120654

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. why aren't you/they asking for that 'journalist's' resignation.
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:51 AM
May 2013

Same as it ever was. Fox or Huff or one of those other phonies put their hair on fire headlines out and the loyalists jump up and down repeating the phoney.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
21. Media does not work for you either.
Fri May 24, 2013, 03:02 AM
May 2013

Fix that and you will be able to fix almost anything else. Until then they will continue their lies and work in their own self interest. Fox used to be an oddity, now not so much.

Has there been any AG that has caught all the bad guys and put them in jail? The problems we have now are mostly not new - they are age old - corruption, stealing, murder, deceit, conspiracy.

Which past AG that 'worked for you' (lol) managed to clean up how you expect?

midnight

(26,624 posts)
23. This is just a thought, but if someone with Brooksley Born's knowledge of the financial mess
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:01 AM
May 2013

where in could be in this position, it surely might make a difference in the lives of the working people....

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
25. Many agree that Holder needs to go but who will replace him?
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:32 AM
May 2013

Could the replacement be worse?

The TeaHadists in the senate will never let a Liberal or Progressive be AG only a Corporate Whore/DINO will be allowed.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
30. OH NOES!!! Not the Huffington Post!
Fri May 24, 2013, 06:47 AM
May 2013

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It's this kind of thing that could ruin the chances the Huffington Post will earn a Pulitizer Prize for putting more links to articles from other websites on their website!!

OH NOES!!!

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
44. Yeah, just as bad - or even worse. Obama won't choose anyone who
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:17 AM
May 2013

would stand up for civil liberties. That would mean actually choosing a real Democrat and there is no place for any of those in his administration.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
45. You mean like voting rights? You have a little hyperbole showing, there.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:20 AM
May 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
[hr]

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
46. The bad with Holder far outweighs the good. And his continuing attacks on
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:27 AM
May 2013

civil liberties make a mockery of voting rights.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
48. In Memo To Employees, Ailes Blasts Obama Admin’s ‘Attempt To Intimidate Fox News’
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:01 PM
May 2013
In Memo To Employees, Ailes Blasts Obama Admin’s ‘Attempt To Intimidate Fox News’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022895188

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
49. 0bama could appontment any number of DOJ professionals as "Acting" who would do better
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:03 PM
May 2013

than Holder except 0bama doesn't want anyone to do better than Holder.

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
51. Useful idiots on the left will be pied pipered into accepting any attacks on this President
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

And his administration.

It's so frustrating that we have to deal with such ignorance on our side, but that's the reality of the situation.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
53. People badly need something to rally around and Occupy did not reach its potential.
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:21 PM
May 2013

I think that's why the 'Pied Piper' syndrome shows itself so readily.

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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otohara

(24,135 posts)
57. The Site of Side Boobs
Fri May 24, 2013, 03:25 PM
May 2013

and wardrobe malfunctions



It makes me ill that Arriana who is always involved in women's issues, attending the recent Women of the World and 1/4 her site is devoted to boobs and the Kardashian sisters - it's all about female bodies and sneaking a peek.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
59. Yawn ... wake me when Rosen/ or an AP person actually gets into ANYTHING resembling actual TROUBLE
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:39 PM
May 2013

For ... whatever it is they did 'wrong'

Far as I can tell, there were a couple of serious security leaks that compromised important secret operations that were helping to keep Americans safe. One in Yemen, one in N. Korea.

Finding out who was responsible was obviously important, and apparently in order to do so, the Justice Department applied for warrants from Judges, who are the arbiters in these matters, who then approved them. Thus, the investigations were 'legal' and 'by the book'.

If a reporter gets indicted or are otherwise threatened in some official capacity simply for their 'news gathering' activities, then I would have a serious problem.

The fact that some reporters were investigated in a rather routine fashion, plainly for the ultimate purpose of uncovering and indicting the actual sources of leaked, classified intel (which IS a crime on the part of the person(s) who did so) ... well, frankly ... I don't really see what the hoopla is all about.

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