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Wells Fargo sics cops on 85 year old woman (Original Post) Pryderi Feb 2012 OP
Link? marybourg Feb 2012 #1
oops sorry here's the linke I had Pryderi Feb 2012 #6
I'm anxious to see Lawlbringer Feb 2012 #2
Lotsa details at this link... Bozita Feb 2012 #3
holy shit! annabanana Feb 2012 #4
Based on that link, it sounds equivocal Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #7
I hope they recorded at least one of the conversations. denverbill Feb 2012 #5
If they did, it may have been, "lost" n/t Pryderi Feb 2012 #8

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
2. I'm anxious to see
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:21 PM
Feb 2012

the whole story.

Did they send the cops because she was late specifically, or did they send the cops because she told a debt collector that she was ready to kill herself over the calls?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
7. Based on that link, it sounds equivocal
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:38 PM
Feb 2012

Because of this:

Sessions says, she told him "that he and defendant Wells were harassing her and that such harassment was bad policy, and 'could have serious consequences' including leading people to abandon their homes or even potentially committing suicide. Throughout the conversation plaintiff told defendant Gajewski that she was concerned about other people who might be enduring the same kind of harassment she was facing." (Italics in complaint."
Sessions says Gajewski "immediately seized on plaintiff's statement that defendants' harassment could have consequences and he began engaging in a highly inappropriate line of questioning."


I know this sounds bad, and I do have suspicions about motivation, but right here this sounds like the written mandates are being followed. If you mention to a collector something like this, they are trained not to ignore it and to go further. In short, it is not an inappropriate line of questioning.

And according to the suit, she did mention that she might consider suicide later on. Hopefully the call is recorded and can be retrieved, and I am sure the 911 call was.

Collection calls have precipitated suicide in the past, and these people are trained to follow a procedure such as this. Fortunately there are courts, and someone dispassionate can take a look at this.

On the face of it, an 85 year old living alone who responds to a call such as that with comments such as those may have an issue. Obviously this feisty lady did not, but I would have reacted with concern.

As to the collection attempt, it's apparent that this lady had no intention of paying off the bill - apparently she was paying current bills but not back charges? Therefore it is obvious why she was getting calls.

Futhermore, according to her own filing she had not been getting calls for a while, and to respond to ONE phone call in what? three months? by claiming that this is harassment that would cause people to leave their homes and/or commit suicide raises real questions. Perhaps she was just being very aggressive with the bank, but I don't think a properly trained employee SHOULD have ignored that.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
5. I hope they recorded at least one of the conversations.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:33 PM
Feb 2012

If true, this is truly despicable and she deserves every penny. A significant part of the damages should come from the asshole that did this to her as well. I know Wells Fargo is liable for their employees, but people need to be held accountable for their own malevolent acts as well.

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