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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri May 10, 2013, 01:27 PM May 2013

Krugman: "Wheee! The Heritage Foundation is engaged in frantic damage control"

Same As They Ever Were

Wheee! The Heritage Foundation is engaged in frantic damage control; not only did its big anti-immigration-reform report turn out to be a steaming heap of, um, bad research, but one of the co-authors turns out to have a serious white supremacist background...all of this is just a bit of overdue poetic justice.

Remember, Heritage came up with the ludicrous claim that the Ryan plan would cut unemployment to 2.8 percent, then tried to scrub the result from its records. It produced ludicrous “studies” purporting to show that small farmers and businessmen were victims of the estate tax. And there are many, many more examples.

The truth is that Heritage has never been in the business of doing economic analysis; it’s just a propaganda agency posing as a think tank. And this time it finally caught up with them.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/10/same-as-they-ever-were-3/

Wheee!



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Krugman: "Wheee! The Heritage Foundation is engaged in frantic damage control" (Original Post) ProSense May 2013 OP
Heritage Foundation in a tizzy!!!! rdharma May 2013 #1
Never, ever, ever MsPithy May 2013 #46
But wait, aren't these the guys who came up with the individual mandate in Obamacare??? grahamhgreen May 2013 #51
I have only one thing to say about that . . . aggiesal May 2013 #2
they also "reported" that Obama was removing the work requirement for welfare Enrique May 2013 #3
Isn't this where teabagger poobah Jim DeMint "retired" to? NewJeffCT May 2013 #4
Yup leftynyc May 2013 #5
couldn't happen NewJeffCT May 2013 #13
Jason Richwine has just resigned leftynyc May 2013 #31
When will his Harvard dissertation committee resign? (nt) TacoD May 2013 #37
No shit leftynyc May 2013 #38
There is that academic integrity/academic freedom thing ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #55
I agree but let them get it leftynyc May 2013 #59
yeah that's what I want to know! vlyons May 2013 #60
richwhine resigns yonder May 2013 #48
I don't think we will leftynyc May 2013 #58
The racist is relatively new at Heritage. KamaAina May 2013 #22
Right on, Jeff ........... dothemath May 2013 #35
K&R DJ13 May 2013 #6
Yummy! bravenak May 2013 #7
Good news. FSogol May 2013 #8
Hairytouch. Eleanors38 May 2013 #9
Rich Whine Guy In Suit Still Clueless: freshwest May 2013 #10
I love David Byrne and the Talking Heads tavalon May 2013 #20
Yes, thanks for posting this, I'd forgotten about it, but closeupready May 2013 #26
Ummm.. Isnt that why it's Called the Heritage Foundation? seltzerwater May 2013 #11
Some people don't do the math. harun May 2013 #52
This is the first major policy type statement under DeMint isn't it? rurallib May 2013 #12
Diane Rehm loves her some Heritage Foundation 'think tank' guests. Ikonoklast May 2013 #14
One of the many reasons I can't deal with Neutered Public Radio navarth May 2013 #24
I stopped listening to that gas bag when she was defending the Bush henchmen whenever WCGreen May 2013 #41
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #15
I have no sympathy for terrorist organizations Rex May 2013 #16
Hmm, a think tank devoid of actual thoughts... Blue Owl May 2013 #17
K & R Scurrilous May 2013 #18
Well this is what they get when they put DeMint in charge. Lies, lies, and more lies. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #19
This is not a new thing. tavalon May 2013 #21
Thank you, Mr. Krugman! K&R closeupready May 2013 #23
I always thought the "Heritage" was "Inherited Wealth". Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #25
Bingo. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #29
Kick pinto May 2013 #27
jagoffs hibbing May 2013 #28
Heh Half-Century Man May 2013 #32
Heritage Foundation: creators of the RomneyObamaCare scheme MannyGoldstein May 2013 #30
You know ProSense May 2013 #43
Those don't refute the fact that the Heritage Foundation originated the scheme MannyGoldstein May 2013 #49
I'm guessing this is not the cycle for "Big Tent, welcome diversity" GOP strategies Sheepshank May 2013 #33
Shine a big, bright light on these assholes. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #34
Think tank tanks I think. chknltl May 2013 #36
old time news headline... WCGreen May 2013 #42
Author of Heritage Report on Immigration Plan Resigns Hissyspit May 2013 #39
Kick and Rec! sheshe2 May 2013 #40
Oh Hell yes! n/t 99Forever May 2013 #44
Ya Think? AndyTiedye May 2013 #45
Wow, not surprised libdude May 2013 #47
Unthink Tank. Half-Century Man May 2013 #50
I say fuckem. AAO May 2013 #53
On Spanish Talk Radio Fernando Espuelas was having a great time with this. mucifer May 2013 #54
We have one of those bullshit think tanks tiredtoo May 2013 #56
May the damage continue to grow and grow. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #57
Good job, DeMintie. nt SDjack May 2013 #61
The prof is clearly quite happy BootinUp May 2013 #62
Bill Maher on the Heritage foundation BootinUp May 2013 #63
Damage control alright; but for the wrong reasons Populist_Prole May 2013 #64
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
51. But wait, aren't these the guys who came up with the individual mandate in Obamacare???
Fri May 10, 2013, 09:04 PM
May 2013


ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

GINGRICH: That’s not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: And you never supported them?

GINGRICH: I agree with them, but I’m just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn’t true.

(CROSSTALK)

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?

ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That’s what I’m saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.

GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.

ROMNEY: OK.



Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. they also "reported" that Obama was removing the work requirement for welfare
Fri May 10, 2013, 01:41 PM
May 2013

and Romney made that part of his campaign, then when people pointed out he was lying, he pointed to the Heritage Foundation "report", as if that meant anything.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
31. Jason Richwine has just resigned
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:06 PM
May 2013

from the Heritage Foundation. As if that's going to keep them out of hot water over this.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
55. There is that academic integrity/academic freedom thing ...
Fri May 10, 2013, 09:52 PM
May 2013

that properly protects writings and research on controversial topics.

While I disagree ... strongly ... with his work, it is important that he have the freedom to discredit himself through his work.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
59. I agree but let them get it
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:32 PM
May 2013

paid for by....say, Liberty University, Brigham Young, Old Miss (I actually have no idea if any of those have doctoral programs but you see what I'm saying). Having a doctorate from Harvard should mean something.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
60. yeah that's what I want to know!
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:11 AM
May 2013

Why didn't his academic advisers kick his butt out the door. Harvard has some 'splainin' to do about this.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
48. richwhine resigns
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:43 PM
May 2013

nice ring to that, I think. When do we hear the obligatory "to spend more time with his family" statement?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
58. I don't think we will
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:29 PM
May 2013

they're embarrassed enough. Demint just started and look at the mess its in.

 

dothemath

(345 posts)
35. Right on, Jeff ...........
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:28 PM
May 2013

DeMint wasn't willing wait a few years to accumulate the millions of dollars that accrue to politicians 'through no efforts of their own other than 'selling their souls to corporate interests'. He quit, repeat Q U I T, two-thirds of the way through his term as senator to speed up the enrichment process. (can you spell P A L I N?). During one interview after his resignation, he made one comment about "term limiting himself". wtf?

I hereby nominate DeMint as posterboy for the kind of destroyer who poses as a citizen serving the wishes of his constituents.

The list is headed by a group of war criminals and includes hundreds of names. Please, everyone, do not pass up an opportunity to severely limit the number of those of DeMint's ilk that aspire to get on the list. Their time is up, and not a minute too soon.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. Rich Whine Guy In Suit Still Clueless:
Fri May 10, 2013, 02:18 PM
May 2013


If reincarnation is true, what will he be next time around?

LOL.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
20. I love David Byrne and the Talking Heads
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:33 PM
May 2013

Thanks for the memory. Funny thing though, he may have been playing clueless white guy there but this is one of the least clueless men on earth.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
26. Yes, thanks for posting this, I'd forgotten about it, but
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:46 PM
May 2013

remember how, as I've aged, the song makes more sense to me now than when I was younger.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
14. Diane Rehm loves her some Heritage Foundation 'think tank' guests.
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:05 PM
May 2013

Second only to the AEI guys, whose asses she kisses, Oh! so gently!

navarth

(5,927 posts)
24. One of the many reasons I can't deal with Neutered Public Radio
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:39 PM
May 2013

Damn shame, when you think of how good it was before Reagan.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
41. I stopped listening to that gas bag when she was defending the Bush henchmen whenever
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:48 PM
May 2013

a caller took their bullshit to task...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. I have no sympathy for terrorist organizations
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:10 PM
May 2013

nor any hate group...they should all be handled by Seal Team 6 imo.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
19. Well this is what they get when they put DeMint in charge. Lies, lies, and more lies.
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:32 PM
May 2013

Thinking isn't really their thing.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
23. Thank you, Mr. Krugman! K&R
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:37 PM
May 2013

Yet, watch the Heritage Foundation appear, yet again, on Stephanpoulos this Sunday Morning.

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
28. jagoffs
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:50 PM
May 2013

Hey,
It seems that racism has been so blatant and out in the open since President Obama was running I guess they might have thought everything was "fine". I mean the idiots at the McCain rallies and all the birther fuckwits and everything else this president has had to put up with, crazy.

Peace

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
43. You know
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

"Heritage Foundation: creators of the RomneyObamaCare scheme"

...the real story:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021430496
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1432016

Don't you?

Obamacare Is Already Forcing Private Insurers To Lower Their Premiums
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022825372

Kentucky Will Expand Medicaid Under Obamacare, Cutting Its Uninsured Population By More Than Half
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022824456

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
49. Those don't refute the fact that the Heritage Foundation originated the scheme
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:03 PM
May 2013

at least I'm pretty sure that's true - I'll look it up if you're disputing it, let me know. I remember them being at the signing ceremony.

As to BlueState10's account... I was there also when the sausage was being made. As I remember, it started by the Legislature asking Romney what he'd find acceptable. The Heritage Foundation plan was it. The legislature went off and did all of the work after that. Then, yes, Romney tried to gut it. (This is a good example of why triangulation is a catastrophe - the Right pretty quickly needs to sprint farther right to differentiate themselves from putative Democrats.)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
33. I'm guessing this is not the cycle for "Big Tent, welcome diversity" GOP strategies
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

and if it were, I'd say it's a huge *fail*

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
39. Author of Heritage Report on Immigration Plan Resigns
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:36 PM
May 2013
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-10/author-of-heritage-report-on-immigration-plan-resigns.html

Author of Heritage Report on Immigration Plan Resigns
By Heidi Przybyla and Jonathan Salant
May 10, 2013 4:35 PM EDT

The Heritage Foundation said one of the authors of its report that criticized a bipartisan Senate plan to revise U.S. immigration laws has resigned.

The co-author, Jason Richwine, had written a Harvard University dissertation in 2009 that said immigrants’ intelligence quotient scores were “substantially lower” than those of white Americans and that the difference “is likely to persist over several generations.”

Richwine is no longer employed by Heritage, said Michael Gonzalez, the group’s vice president of communications, in an e-mail today that didn’t give a reason for the resignation. Heritage is a Republican-leaning policy group led by former South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint, a Republican.

The report released by Heritage on May 6 said creating a path to citizenship for about 11 million undocumented immigrants now in the U.S. would cost taxpayers $6.3 trillion over the immigrants’ lifetimes.

libdude

(136 posts)
47. Wow, not surprised
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:48 PM
May 2013

Thank you Mr. Krugman, no one should be surprised that this group has an underlying rascism streak in it. DeMint fits the bill perfectly. It is difficult to coverup this part of a persons
Thought process, eventually it will reveal itself, although it can be well hidden by the outward trappings of education, religious behavior etc. That is why I am convinced that the whole of the objections and obstructions to President Obama is based not on the ideological level but due to basic rascism.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
50. Unthink Tank.
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:45 PM
May 2013

I had this cool WWII tank analogy joke to make, but ya know, Heritage just isn't worth the effort. Just like dog shit on your shoe, Ya wipe it off in the grass and never look back.
Hope all the money wasted on Heritage really hurts the investors.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
56. We have one of those bullshit think tanks
Fri May 10, 2013, 09:53 PM
May 2013

right here in Michigan also. They call themselves the Mackinac Center. And unfortunately many local newspapers will quote them as a source. We are calling the news out every time we see this and may be making headway.
But they do of course have the backing of the chamber of commerce and big money so it is an uphill battle.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
57. May the damage continue to grow and grow.
Fri May 10, 2013, 10:06 PM
May 2013

This could finally be the day of reckoning for these scumbags. Let it be....let it be....

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
62. The prof is clearly quite happy
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:16 AM
May 2013

about this, I don't believe I ever saw him use the term Wheee! before.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
64. Damage control alright; but for the wrong reasons
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:09 PM
May 2013

I'm sure they believe in what they said, and with every fiber of their being. It's just that they belately realized that what they said was impolitic, that's all. Hence the dmage control.

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