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Wed May 8, 2013, 08:54 AM

Prophet 451 (9,796 posts)

I'm calling it now: 2016 election will be Hillary Clinton vs. Chris Christie

Hillary is an obvious pick. She's been First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State. There's a clamor for her to run and I just don't see anyone on the horizon who could take frontrunner status away from her. My guess is that by 2016, her vote for the Iraq War Resolution will be a distant memory. Assuming she's the nominee, expect every scandal the Republicans tried to pin on Bill and a few new ones to be thrown at her.

Why Christie? Because of two things. Firstly, he's trying to lose weight. That will appeal to both those who are overweight and to the people who tune into the weight-loss reality shows. Don't kid yourself, a lot of people really are that superficial. They'll vote for a good story instead of a good president. Secondly, he has a type of bluntness that Republicans confuse with plain-speaking charm. I think he's a bullying prick but Republicans like to run mean guys. He's also very conservative but not a Teabagging whacko.

I could be wrong, of course, but my gut tells me it'll be those two.

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I'm calling it now: 2016 election will be Hillary Clinton vs. Chris Christie (Original post)	Prophet 451	May 2013	OP
you and g4a should get together.	hobbit709	May 2013	#1
The Teabaggers will not nominate Christie as he is not a true conservative to them.	LonePirate	May 2013	#2
Nor was Romney	Prophet 451	May 2013	#5
The Teabaggers have a firmer grip on the party now than even a year ago.	LonePirate	May 2013	#11
Hopefully, the Teabaggers with throw a temper tantrum & go pout in a corner instead of voting.	baldguy	May 2013	#8
A Clinton/Christie ticket would be unbeatable.	kelliekat44	May 2013	#3
Very very hard to imagine Christie winning a Republican primary.	Nye Bevan	May 2013	#4
Christie has big money backers of his own	Prophet 451	May 2013	#7
In a rational world you would be right.	Nye Bevan	May 2013	#10
Didn't we just finish with a presidential election?	marmar	May 2013	#6
Maybe too early, I admit	Prophet 451	May 2013	#9
Yeah, Sylvia Browne's a "prophet" too.	Le Taz Hot	May 2013	#12
Thread win!	winter is coming	May 2013	#14
Headline 2005 -	forthemiddle	May 2013	#13
I don't think Christie makes it through the primaries unless is moves further to the Right.	Liberal_Stalwart71	May 2013	#15
I have no hope. I see no future.	Hotler	May 2013	#16
lol!	HappyMe	May 2013	#17
"her vote for the Iraq War Resolution will be a distant memory"	Dawgs	May 2013	#18

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Wed May 8, 2013, 08:58 AM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)

1. you and g4a should get together.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:01 AM

LonePirate (12,883 posts)

2. The Teabaggers will not nominate Christie as he is not a true conservative to them.

Republicans are not going to nominate two northerners in consecutive elections.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:19 AM

Prophet 451 (9,796 posts)

5. Nor was Romney

The Teabaggers are almost a spent force already. They'll still be around in 2016 but they won't have command of the party like they had in 2012 and although he pretends to be a moderate, Christie is very conservative.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:27 AM

LonePirate (12,883 posts)

11. The Teabaggers have a firmer grip on the party now than even a year ago.

Romney only won the nomination because of his money and the Teabaggers splitting their votes. That will not happen again in 2016.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:22 AM

baldguy (36,649 posts)

8. Hopefully, the Teabaggers with throw a temper tantrum & go pout in a corner instead of voting.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:13 AM

kelliekat44 (7,759 posts)

3. A Clinton/Christie ticket would be unbeatable.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:18 AM

Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)

4. Very very hard to imagine Christie winning a Republican primary.

His opponents will bombard the airways with footage of him praising Obama, for example.

I find it easier to imagine him running as an independent. Clinton versus Huckabee versus Christie?

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:21 AM

Prophet 451 (9,796 posts)

7. Christie has big money backers of his own

And that footage means he can pretend to be a moderate like Romney did. I think the Teabaggers will be a spent force by then and Christie will actually gain points in teh primary for NOT being one of them.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:25 AM

Nye Bevan (25,406 posts)

10. In a rational world you would be right.

Of course the Republicans should get rid of the socially backwards anti-women religious right wing of the party. I'm just not convinced that this will happen.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:20 AM

marmar (75,469 posts)

6. Didn't we just finish with a presidential election?

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:22 AM

Prophet 451 (9,796 posts)

9. Maybe too early, I admit

I just, something tells me this is going to be the battle. If I could find a bookie who'd take teh bet in this country (UK), I'd put money on it.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:33 AM

Le Taz Hot (22,271 posts)

12. Yeah, Sylvia Browne's a "prophet" too.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:38 AM

winter is coming (11,785 posts)

14. Thread win!

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:38 AM

forthemiddle (1,292 posts)

13. Headline 2005 -

I am calling it now - The 2008 Presidential election matchup will be Clinton vs Guilliani.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:45 AM

Liberal_Stalwart71 (20,450 posts)

15. I don't think Christie makes it through the primaries unless is moves further to the Right.

If he does make it, I think Hillary will lose the general. It seems that Democrats are being fooled by Christie, thinking he's a reasonable Republican. He is not. Just because he seems o.k. with disaster relief and not rabidly anti-Muslim means nothing. He's still very far right on economic and many social issues. He wants to destroy the unions and public workers. He pushes for school vouchers and corporate give-aways. He's mean-spirited and a hot head. That shit may work in New Jersey, but it won't work anywhere else.

Democrats need to wake up and understand that Chris Christie is not their friend.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:46 AM

Hotler (10,166 posts)

16. I have no hope. I see no future.

If Hillary is elected she will be just like Obama. She too will be bought and paid for just like all the presidents in the past 20 yrs. and the ones to come after her. Bankers will get bailouts and walk free and war criminals will still walk free and corporate money will still be king. To quote economist Jeffery Sachs "We have a corrupt politics to the core, I am afraid to say, and...both parties are up to their neck in this. This has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans."

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:54 AM

HappyMe (20,277 posts)

17. lol!

Neither of them has said that they are running.

If they do, why assume either of them make it through the primaries.

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Wed May 8, 2013, 09:58 AM

Dawgs (14,755 posts)

18. "her vote for the Iraq War Resolution will be a distant memory"

Right. That was no big deal.

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