John Edward's "Two Americas" Rang True to Dems...If Mark Sanford Won...Why not John Edwards Redux?

[KoKo]

Many of us found that Edwards "Two Americas" resonated with us. If Sanford could win in South Carolina...why couldn't John Edwards be dusted off and put out there to run in 2016?

We all loved Elizabeth...and Edwards has had his "time out."

WHY NOT? He did have "THE MESSAGE."

Since it's REHAB TIME....LET's GO FOR IT? Ya' Think?

[union_maid]

1. No n/t

[appal_jack]

42. Agreed. I try to avoid voting for assholes.

I despised Edwards long before the infidelity scandal surfaced: for his co-sponsorship of the Patriot Act & the Iraq War Resolution / AUMF, for being Senator Gone during his one partial term 'representing' NC, for his smarmy, fake-assed two Americas spiel that was never backed by action, and or his sulking, desultory performance in the VP slot in 2004.

Both because of, and regardless of the (many) parallels with Sanford, I will never vote for Edwards again. Let Republicans vote for smarmy, lying fucktards if they want. I expect better of my leaders.

-app

[Whisp]

55. I would like to see his charitable donations

He spoke about 2 Americas but we all know which America he was in. A big gluttoness one.

[bigwillq]

2. No (nt)

[BainsBane]

3. He's a sleezebag

Let Republicans run sleezebags. Edwards is dishonest and cannot be trusted. We don't need him.

[MattBaggins]

16. Second this

I would never vote for him. He is slimy and untrustworthy. I have no intention of becoming a hypocrite just because the repubs are.

[KoKo]

18. So was Sanford and he WON.....It's the way things go these days...

[BainsBane]

23. Edwards was worse

He was running for president. lying the whole time, and his wife was dying from cancer. Plus I'm not a Repug. I don't want a sleezebag in office. Truthfully, I didn't believe his rhetoric before the affair came out. It sounded good, but I didn't think he really believed it. He seemed untrustworthy to me. My sister independently came to the same conclusion. I wouldn't be surprised if many others did as well.

[customerserviceguy]

33. You're not being fair

to either sleaze or bags.

Seriously, few people could pull off on a national level the hypocrisy that Sanford did in one fairly conservative district. I certainly believe that Edwards is not one of them. Your conclusion is 100% correct.

[Ilsa]

4. No. I wouldn't vote for him. nt

[Throd]

5. No thank you. Why not Alvin Green?

[femmocrat]

6. Fool me once.... whatever.

Democrats aren't as gullible as republicans. We are capable of discernment.

[curlyred]

7. No. We aren't republicans.

I fell hard for John Edwards. Would like to think we have some standards.

[JI7]

8. Edwards problem is that he is seen as a phony on the issues he claimed to care about

he was never that popular anyways.

[treestar]

9. I am disgusted enough with the hypocritical Republicans

to say, yes, let's get behind him. Let one Repuke say a word about it and we point to Sanford.

What lying assholes Republicans are.

[frogmarch]

10. He's dead to me. nt

[KoKo]

12. Mark Sanford Won in SC....Edwards had "THE MESSAGE" even before OWS....

If Clinton was Diddling with Lewinsky off the Oval Office and we ALL "Love Him Today.."

Then what's wrong with John Edwards. He's certainly been through "THE FIRE" That's what elects our Politicians Today!

He just needs a good Dem Benefactor like Penny Pritzker and (oops he had one...but, she was old) Nevermind...He just needs a Hot Shot Female Progressive from Atlanta and he's Golden to run.

It doesn't matter what he did in the PAST.....It's about TODAY!

And..."Two America's" has a nice ring to it.

[RudynJack]

11. It didn't resonate that well

I never thought he was sincere for a minute. Cheating on your dying wife, fathering a child and then lying about it... No, I'll be happy to never see his name again.

[KoKo]

13. Agree TOTALLY...but, Mark Sanford just got Elected in the South and Diaper David Vitter

is working with Dem Senator Sherrod Brown on Legislation for Us Dems.

Isn't it time to ignore the "Personal Lives" of our Politicians? After all don't we all just LOVE OUR CELEBRITIES these days?

Time for Edwards. Let's go for the CORRUPTED... THEY CAN WIN!

Look at how COOL Bill Clinton is appearing with Bill Gates at Petersen Foundation GIG on Bloomberg TV, C-Span and EVERYONE LOVES BOTH OF THEM!

[Tarheel_Dem]

14. My supporting Edwards, is about as likely as my supporting you.

[KoKo]

15. I don't know what I have to do with Edwards...and I don't know why this

is personal about me...but back attcha. You could always put me on IGNORE....

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[Tarheel_Dem]

19. And you could just as easily leave, but since neither is going to happen...be seein' ya!

[KoKo]

25. Sigh...you want me gone... I don't feel that way about you...

and sorry you feel that way to say that about me. But, it is what it is.... Just put me on ignore...

[Tarheel_Dem]

47. Trust me, your presence here is of no real world consequence.

[Omaha Steve]

17. I voted Edwards in the 2004 primary

I drove TWICE to see him. I'm in one of his videos. We gave more to him than any other political candidate in early 08 ever. It's over.

OS

[KoKo]

22. He was sleaze ahead of his time...but, he did have that message: Two Americas...!

I understand what you say about the belief in him...and I'm not trashing that. So many folks loved his message and what he turned out to be...is his own doing..

Those who thought his message resonated shouldn't be trashed for hoping for better...just like those who supported Obama (however he turns out...believed and hoped for better)...Just saying.

My post is more about how Hypocritical our politics are that Sanford could win..and how Clinton got Rehabilitated than really pushing for promoting Edwards again... But, if Sanford could WIN...then why not (given our corrupt politics...couldn't Edwards?) And...no...I wouldn't vote for him...but many might...given the way things are these days.

[Omaha Steve]

27. Here I am in his video

[KoKo]

38. As I said...You had hope for the MESSAGE which was good.....

It's a tragedy how he ended up. So many Dems had their hopes on him. But, his message, I believe, was correct. It shouldn't go down in flames just because he did.

"TWO AMERICAS"...it's really the truth...as some of us have seen.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

20. LOL....of course not

He's a Democrat.

Democrats are not allowed to do that.

End of story.

[KoKo]

34. Generally that's true...But, Bill Clinton is Riding High at the Petersen Foundation

Grand Gathering which is broadcast on "Bloomberg Financial News" and a Grand Gather with Bill Gates and other Luminaries of those who RIDE HIGH...

True...we didn't have to vote for him after he served two terms, though.

[Brother Buzz]

21. Pass

Count me out.

[Control-Z]

24. We're not the party

that gets behind a man who cheats on his dying wife. He deserves to rot in hell.

[book_worm]

26. Go ahead and start a drive for him for 2016...Let us know how that goes.

[KoKo]

29. My post was really about how folk could vote for people who get Rehab...

in the minds of voters. How Mark Sanford could be forgiven....and WIN. That we often overlook character flaws these days...in the voting booth.

[MNBrewer]

36. I'll vote for him before I vote for Mrs. Clinton.

[winter is coming]

28. Right message, wrong person. n/t

[KoKo]

30. TRUTH. It was totally the Message Dems could have run with...but the WRONG Messenger.

What happened to him...who knows...but, it was beyond tragic in so many ways.

And that the MESSAGE went DOWN with Him is even More Tragic, imho...

[MNBrewer]

37. Clearly John Edwards is too honest to run as a Democrat

Just look at Barack Obama.

[Control-Z]

43. I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Would you explain, please?

[Tarheel_Dem]

48. Call us when Barack Obama knocks up his mistress & lies about the results.

John Edwards really did live in "Two Americas". He had TWO of everything.

[DevonRex]

54. What a fucking bizarre thing to say.

Considering the fact that we know exactly what Edwards lied about. And people donated to him when they wouldn't have had they known beforehand.

And you're implying that Democrats lie? Well, what the fuck are YOU then? A republican?

[MrSlayer]

31. Only Republicans are allowed to do this.

I couldn't care less about the cheating. What Sanford did was far worse.

[tritsofme]

32. Run for what? Used car salesman?

[Bobbie Jo]

46. This.

Phony beyond belief.

[MNBrewer]

35. YES

He spoke the truth to US, who gives a crap what he told his wife?

[Omaha Steve]

39. Incident on Chappaquiddick Island

I voted for Ted in the 1980 primary. I learned my lesson.


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/incident-on-chappaquiddick-island

Shortly after leaving a party on Chappaquiddick Island, Senator Edward "Ted" Kennedy of Massachusetts drives an Oldsmobile off a wooden bridge into a tide-swept pond. Kennedy escaped the submerged car, but his passenger, 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne, did not. The senator did not report the fatal car accident for 10 hours.

On the evening of July 18, 1969, while most Americans were home watching television reports on the progress of the Apollo 11 lunar landing mission, Kennedy and his cousin Joe Gargan were hosting a cookout and party at a rented cottage on Chappaquiddick Island, an affluent island near Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts. The party was planned as a reunion for Kopechne and five other women, all veterans of the late Senator Robert F. Kennedy's 1968 presidential campaign. Bobby Kennedy was Ted Kennedy's older brother, and following Bobby's assassination in June 1968 Ted took up his family's political torch. In 1969, Ted Kennedy was elected majority whip in the U.S. Senate, and he seemed an early front-runner for the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination.

Just after 11 p.m., Kennedy left the party with Kopechne, by his account to drive to the ferry slip where they would catch a boat back to their respective lodgings in Edgartown on Martha's Vineyard. While driving down the main roadway, Kennedy took a sharp turn onto the unpaved Dike Road, drove for a short distance, and then missed the ramp to a narrow wooden bridge and drove into Poucha Pond. Kennedy, a married man, claimed the Dike Road excursion was a wrong turn. However, both he and Kopechne had previously driven down the same road, which led to a secluded ocean beach just beyond the bridge. In addition, Kopechne had left both her purse and room key at the party.

FULL article at link.

[Omaha Steve]

41. It seems your comprhension is not very good

Ed was under the effect of alcohol and a concussion.

John wasn't. Big difference when your wife is dying in the public eye.

I've paid my Dem dues. Your turn to STFU!

OS

[RudynJack]

56. How did he tell US the truth

when he publicly lied about fathering that baby?

How did he tell the truth when he ran for Vice President, fully knowing this could destroy the campaign?

[Nye Bevan]

44. Well yes, he may be a slimy lying millionaire trial lawyer who treated his dying wife like shit,

and persuaded his good friend to pretend to be the father of his love-child, but he *does* have good hair. So I guess I'm a "maybe".

[Tarheel_Dem]

49. ^ ^ ^ ^ This ^ ^ ^ ^

[DevonRex]

50. LOL!!!

Best answer.

[LeftInTX]

58. He definitely will be someone the Republicans can get behind

[BootinUp]

45. I wouldn't vote for him. nt

[JDPriestly]

51. If Sanford can do it, why not John Edwards?

At least John Edwards understood economics.

[Whisp]

57. That he did: The Supply My Side economics. n/t

[DevonRex]

52. Haha! Talk about a phony! nt

[geek tragedy]

53. Let the phony run in North Carolina and let them decide. nt

[Scootaloo]

59. because penis trumps politics in America

Just ask Anthony Wiener.

[dreamnightwind]

60. Spitzer, maybe

Edwards had the message but he never believed it any more than Obama did, so no second chance for him.

Elliott Spitzer, on the other hand, is someone who will take on the powerful, at least to a greater degree than anyone else that matters. He's not a pretty face in a nice suit saying whatever he thinks will get him elected, he actually believes in things. So I'd be willing to forgive him. And I always thought he was "honey-potted" anyway, way too suspicious to take at face value.

[cynatnite]

61. One word makes Edwards toxic to voters...

Cancer.

His wife, who is now dead, had cancer at the time of the affair.

He is as toxic of a candidate as they come. He will never be rehabilitated enough in the public's eyes.

[Raine]

62. NO, I hope I never have to see or hear from him again and

I was an early supporter of his. The guy is so sleazy he denied being a father to his own daughter along with cheating on his terminally ill wife. Edwards is one of the sleaziest politicians to ever be a Democrat.