Thu May 2, 2013, 08:46 PM
Bjorn Against (12,041 posts)
It is time to take a firm stand to denounce those who advocate "Second Amendment Solution" terrorism
A recent poll shows that 29% of Americans, including 44% of Republicans, 18% of Democrats and 27% of independents support an armed rebellion in the near future.
This may be the single most disturbing poll I have seen in a long time, and I have seen plenty of disturbing polls. Let me be clear: those who are among the 18% of Democrats who believe this shit are not on my side. They can call themselves Democrats all they want but they are among the same level of scum as the teabaggers who cheer on Ted Nugent. I have long been a strong supporter of non-violent resistance against the government and I have been in the streets many times over the last few years engaging in non-violent resistance. Non-violent resistance is a wonderful thing, but violent resistance is terrorism and all those who speak of "Second Amendment Solutions" are making it clear to us that they are at the very least terrorist sympathizers. I know most of the scum bags who talk about turning their guns against "government tyranny" are all talk and won't actually carry out the murder they endorse, but it is a possible that a few of those nut jobs will and people will die. The blood of those people will be on the hands of all of the 29% who endorsed this idea. Free speech is good, if people see government tyranny I highly encourage them to stand up against using any non-violent means at their disposal. Once the guns come out however the person wielding those guns becomes a murderous thug that needs to be condemned by every last person. I sure as hell don't want the teabaggers deciding we are facing government tyranny and believing it is acceptable to use their guns against those of us they believe are contributing to that tyranny. I don't want anyone on my side to take up arms against the government either and anyone who even encourages such a thing is someone who I will loudly condemn them no matter their stances on other issues. There is absolutely no way in hell that an armed revolt could ever succeed against the largest and most technologically advanced military the world has ever seen, but that doesn't mean people would not die in large numbers. And what happens then? All these people who were "fighting for our freedom" will cause the biggest crackdown on civil liberties this nation has ever seen, because don't think for a second the government will grant you more freedoms if you start murdering their people. Those who call for taking up arms to "protect our freedoms" are in reality a threat to the freedoms of all of us. I just hope all of the 29% of Americans who say they support such a stupid and sickening idea are just idiots that say stupid shit without any intent of carrying it out, but if even a few of those 29% are actually serious and do carry out what they say they want to do all the people who encouraged this shit will have to share in the blame.
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Bjorn Against | May 2013 | OP |
Bay Boy | May 2013 | #1 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #2 | |
NutmegYankee | May 2013 | #4 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #5 | |
NutmegYankee | May 2013 | #10 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #12 | |
NutmegYankee | May 2013 | #14 | |
jaysunb | May 2013 | #8 | |
Bjorn Against | May 2013 | #6 | |
Electric Monk | May 2013 | #7 | |
Bay Boy | May 2013 | #11 | |
Electric Monk | May 2013 | #13 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #15 | |
Bay Boy | May 2013 | #16 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #17 | |
Bay Boy | May 2013 | #18 | |
baldguy | May 2013 | #24 | |
morningfog | May 2013 | #3 | |
meow2u3 | May 2013 | #19 | |
Eleanors38 | May 2013 | #21 | |
Nuclear Unicorn | May 2013 | #9 | |
Eleanors38 | May 2013 | #22 | |
baldguy | May 2013 | #25 | |
Eleanors38 | May 2013 | #20 | |
geek tragedy | May 2013 | #23 | |
DonCoquixote | May 2013 | #26 | |
datasuspect | May 2013 | #27 |
Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:12 PM
Bay Boy (1,689 posts)
1. When GWB stole the 2000 election
there were a lot of people here advocating armed resistance.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #2)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:14 PM
NutmegYankee (14,584 posts)
4. DU search.
I was here back then, and there was a lot of that talk.
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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #4)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:15 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
5. Isn't that when DU was started?
It was before my time. It just doesn't seem like the place that would accept or support that.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #5)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:20 PM
NutmegYankee (14,584 posts)
10. DU has changed a lot since then.
People were angry at the theft of 2000 and the over lordship of the pResident back then. A common phrase was Democracy died on Dec 12, 2000 and there were fears of a permanent republican majority (as the repubs called it).
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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #10)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:24 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
12. Democracy did die that day. But that is a ways from calling for armed revolt.
Response to morningfog (Reply #12)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:27 PM
NutmegYankee (14,584 posts)
14. There wwere posters who feared they would be rounded up. It was a different time.
Certainly a different mood on DU.
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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #4)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:17 PM
jaysunb (11,514 posts)
8. I was too (here)
and lots of folks were at least hinting that very thing....
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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #1)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:16 PM
Bjorn Against (12,041 posts)
6. I was not here at that time, but if that happened they were wrong
As I said in the OP, I condemn anyone who promotes violence as a solution to political issues. I am all for non-violent civil disobedience, but those who promote violence are scum. The reason I made this post is because there is a thread in the gungeon right now with people promoting armed revolution against the government. I condemn all of those who promote terrorism, and make no mistake about it armed revolution is terrorism.
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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #1)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:17 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
7. Wow, how many zombie sockpuppet accounts have you had over the years?
Profile information
About Bay Boy Statistics and Information Account status: Active Member since: Thu Jul 21, 2005, 01:43 PM Number of posts: 832 Number of posts, last 90 days: 656 http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1135093_Got_banned_outed_from_Democratic_Underground.html |
Response to Electric Monk (Reply #7)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:23 PM
Bay Boy (1,689 posts)
11. Yikes!
You're kind of a creepy stalker.
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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #11)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:24 PM
Electric Monk (13,869 posts)
13. It's right in your profile. Here's the link.
Response to Bay Boy (Reply #11)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:27 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
15. Are they right?
Response to morningfog (Reply #15)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:36 PM
Bay Boy (1,689 posts)
16. Is who right?
About what?
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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #16)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:37 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
17. Them about you.
Seems clear what I am asking.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #17)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:39 PM
Bay Boy (1,689 posts)
18. If it was...
...I wouldn't be asking.
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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #1)
Fri May 3, 2013, 12:01 AM
baldguy (36,649 posts)
24. Yeah, there are a lot of people in the gungeon who think firearms are the first & only solution
They're mostly Republicans.
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:14 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
3. At least 29 percent are fools, idiots and naive.
Good luck with that!
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Response to morningfog (Reply #3)
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:35 PM
meow2u3 (24,236 posts)
19. 44 percent of Republicans are traitors
Whoever advocates armed rebellion against the US is a seditionist at best and a traitor at worst.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #3)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:52 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
21. How did 18% Democrats get in there?
Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:19 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (19,497 posts)
9. Too many idolize as heroic the image of a white, anti-government, sectarian, torture-using terrorist
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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #9)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:54 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
22. Oh, Nuclear, that is unforgiveable.
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:50 PM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
20. Uh, when you find "Second Amendment Solution" types o DU,
let me know and I'll fart in their general direction. Goodnight.
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:58 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
23. Those people are the same racist rightwing shitheads who whine
about "I want my country back" because their President is black. Same Glenn Beck/Alex Jones listening gun-humping Neanderthals who think universal health care is a form of tyranny.
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Fri May 3, 2013, 02:21 AM
DonCoquixote (13,138 posts)
26. Hallelujah
We have been too compliant when people threaten to SHOOT PEOPLE and get away with it. We know the GOP does not want restraint; they cheered when Gabby got shot; and probably look forward to the day when firign squads are used instead of "lone wolves."
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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)
Fri May 3, 2013, 04:47 AM
datasuspect (26,591 posts)
27. America is a whorehouse that has lost the revolutionary ideals of its forefathers . . .
that is what the loudspeaker was saying when jed and matty went to see their dad at the reeducation camp in the first red dawn movie.
i thought it was pretty funny. and strangely on point. |