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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:48 PM Apr 2013

Disappointing those who 'stand with Rand'

Disappointing those who 'stand with Rand'

By Steve Benen



In March, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) launched a high-profile filibuster on the Senate floor, bringing attention to drone strikes and civil liberties questions that too often go ignored. But as the spectacle faded, a problem emerged -- Paul didn't seem to fully understand the issue he ostensibly cares so much about.

The Kentucky Republican wanted to know if the Obama administration feels it has the authority to "use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil." Attorney General Eric Holders said the "answer to that question is no." For many involved in the debate, the answer was superficial and incomplete -- who gets to define what constitutes "combat"? what about non-weaponized drones? -- but Paul declared victory and walked away satisfied.

Today, the senator went further, saying he's comfortable with drones being used over U.S. soil if the executive branch decides -- without a warrant or oversight -- there's an "imminent threat." Paul told Fox News:

"...I've never argued against any technology being used when you an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don't care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him. But it's different if they want to come fly over your hot tub, or your yard just because they want to do surveillance on everyone, and they want to watch your activities."

I realize it's difficult to explore complex policy questions in detail during a brief television interview, and perhaps if the Republican senator had more time to think about it, he might explain his position differently. But as of this afternoon, it sounds like Rand Paul is comfortable with the executive branch having the warrantless authority to use weaponized drones to kill people on American soil suspected of robbing a liquor store.

But flying over a hot tub is where he draws the line.

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http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/23/17881782-disappointing-those-who-stand-with-rand

Drones to kill people "suspected of robbing a liquor store."



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Disappointing those who 'stand with Rand' (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2013 OP
Kick for ProSense Apr 2013 #1
I think most people should have known better then to jump on his bandwagon. Pirate Smile Apr 2013 #2
he's right, i don't want the gubmint flying over my hot tub either.... spanone Apr 2013 #3
Those assholes ProSense Apr 2013 #4

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. Kick for
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 06:05 PM
Apr 2013

not ignoring the reality that Rand is a kook

Rand Paul supports "swift drone action" based on a "reasonable suspicion" of an "imminent danger"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022472789

No warrant, just kill him.

spanone

(135,795 posts)
3. he's right, i don't want the gubmint flying over my hot tub either....
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 07:28 PM
Apr 2013


cause we know that's what they're doin!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
4. Those assholes
Tue Apr 23, 2013, 08:22 PM
Apr 2013

walking through department stores with guns should know that Rand supports dropping a bomb on them for looking funny or for running to catch a cab after a day of shopping with an assault rifle.



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