Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:07 PM

longship (40,416 posts)

What about "shelter in place" do people not understand?

I am kind of pissed off by the many posts here from people who apparently do not understand the facts, let alone the dynamics, of this week's events. So I am recapitulating a response to a clueless post here as an OP.

The media called it a "lockdown" but that's what the media does; it conflates. It was, and always was, "shelter in place".

"Shelter in place" was voluntary. But Bostonians, who apparently have a few more brain cells than some here, realized that going out on the street in the middle of a huge crime investigation would have been kind of bad form.

So, Bostonians willingly stayed in their houses so as to not impede the already stressed out law enforcement forces who were, after all, looking for very bad dudes who blew up a whole lot of people.

They even helped!!! What a surprise!?

What would you have done? Have a street party in defiance?

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What about "shelter in place" do people not understand? (Original post)	longship	Apr 2013	OP
You know many people lost hourly wages that day? Many. Business shut down because of the "request"..	Logical	Apr 2013	#1
And the authorities KNEW that would, happen, of course.	elleng	Apr 2013	#3
Knew what would happen? Lets say it went on 4 days? Cancel games 4 days? Lock down 4 days? You....	Logical	Apr 2013	#4
If there hadn't been a lock down the boat owner might not have even looked in his boat.	Tx4obama	Apr 2013	#7
'Friday did nothing?' I sure don't 'understand' that.	elleng	Apr 2013	#12
It didn't go on for 4 days, so we don't know, do we?	gateley	Apr 2013	#23
Post hoc reasoning? Most illogical.	longship	Apr 2013	#9
Why end the lock down then when he was still at large? n-t	Logical	Apr 2013	#15
What lockdown?	Common Sense Party	Apr 2013	#17
The safe harbor. They ended it Friday evening. Why end it if suspect was still at large? n-t	Logical	Apr 2013	#19
They had to end it eventually.	Common Sense Party	Apr 2013	#21
Sheesh!	longship	Apr 2013	#22
Yes, it was a REQUEST from the Gov. The citizens could have done anything	Cha	Apr 2013	#37
Can you imagine the mayhem if Bostonians had not abided?	longship	Apr 2013	#46
I think it was a very smart move by the Gov. n/m	Cha	Apr 2013	#65
He was caught one block beyond the perimeter set.	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#25
Cops did a great job. Just do not shot down the city for one suspect next time. n-t	Logical	Apr 2013	#26
Do you think the city shouldn't shut down during a big snow storm?	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#27
Yes, because roads are not passable. Shut down watertown, fine. But Boston? Why?	Logical	Apr 2013	#28
They shut down Boston?	Life Long Dem	Apr 2013	#29
Google "Boston Ghost Town" and see the pictures. Amazing. n-t	Logical	Apr 2013	#30
Boston was shut down too.	smirkymonkey	Apr 2013	#70
Maybe because Boston was 1/2 mile away?	brooklynite	Apr 2013	#79
It Did Nothing?	gcomeau	Apr 2013	#33
Newsflash: We are dealing with a place that is used to being snowed in.	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#36
And today they are alive and unmaimed to bitch about it	Hekate	Apr 2013	#60
...except that they're not.	brooklynite	Apr 2013	#78
You've got that right	Hekate	Apr 2013	#87
They do on snow days	treestar	Apr 2013	#88
THANKS, longship.	elleng	Apr 2013	#2
A certain segment of the left thrives on indignation. It's their meat	marybourg	Apr 2013	#5
This is an insulting, pompous	zeeland	Apr 2013	#52
And yet so true	Hekate	Apr 2013	#62
When I heard 'shelter in place'	postulater	Apr 2013	#6
As they say on the internet.. "google is your friend" n-m	Cha	Apr 2013	#38
Did employers pay the wages of those who could not go to work?	SheilaT	Apr 2013	#8
Irrelevant. What would have you done?	longship	Apr 2013	#14
Hardly irrelevant to the people who live so close to the edge	SheilaT	Apr 2013	#75
Probably the same thing they do when there's a blizzard that shuts the city down.	Common Sense Party	Apr 2013	#18
The way I understand it,	Control-Z	Apr 2013	#24
Exactly right.. they could have gotten their butts to work so it's	Cha	Apr 2013	#39
"Was Boston Actually on Lockdown?"	PoliticAverse	Apr 2013	#10
I heard on the news that folks in Boston are used to 'sheltering in place' because of winter...	Tx4obama	Apr 2013	#11
They had a big one this winter!	Cha	Apr 2013	#42
Indeed. When we get blasted with big blizzards here	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#50
A family with young kids ran out of milk in Watertown, see photo on link below	Tx4obama	Apr 2013	#53
If you told me they ran out of	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#63
Hey, I think that it is a great photo!	Tx4obama	Apr 2013	#64
That is cool.	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#71
Meant the suspect could not simply walk away in the crowd.	Justice	Apr 2013	#13
Winner	bottomofthehill	Apr 2013	#16
We had shelter in place back in the fifties when I was in grade school	Fumesucker	Apr 2013	#20
London was hit by a far worse terrorist attack in 2005.	Spider Jerusalem	Apr 2013	#31
Let me see...	longship	Apr 2013	#32
Not only did they not shut down the city...	Spider Jerusalem	Apr 2013	#41
You are correct.	Boudica the Lyoness	Apr 2013	#55
And, I say "so what?" The Gov of Mass chose to REQUEST it	Cha	Apr 2013	#44
That was the purpose of my OP.	longship	Apr 2013	#49
I know.. I was refering to the London one when I said "so what"..	Cha	Apr 2013	#66
No probs, my friend. nt	longship	Apr 2013	#68
Not so much	Spider Jerusalem	Apr 2013	#69
So the fuck what?	Zoeisright	Apr 2013	#54
Don't get what?	Spider Jerusalem	Apr 2013	#59
They shut down the freaking transit system. That's a lockdown.	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#34
"What difference could the name possibly make?"	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#40
Elements of all of those things were in place	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#73
It was a dragnet....	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#81
The OP was offensive and argued only about the choice of terms	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#82
Meanwhile, I always try to look for the humor.	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#83
The authorities had no way of knowing	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#48
I don't either. But the OP was beeching about a choice of words.	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#74
I would have	Niceguy1	Apr 2013	#35
And, they wouldn't have stopped you, either.	Cha	Apr 2013	#45
In the south the terrorists would probably still be free and unharmed	nakocal	Apr 2013	#43
Yep. When there are armed maniacs	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#47
Thanks, buddy.	longship	Apr 2013	#51
Thank you, too.	hifiguy	Apr 2013	#57
The average IQ at DU has slipped of late	Hekate	Apr 2013	#56
Oh, I wouldn't say that.	longship	Apr 2013	#58
Yep.	smirkymonkey	Apr 2013	#76
I can't believe the responses...	awoke_in_2003	Apr 2013	#61
Yup, DU, we have a problem.	longship	Apr 2013	#67
Thanks for the thread.	freshwest	Apr 2013	#72
Shutting down the public transit was not voluntary.	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#84
been here a whole 9 months...	awoke_in_2003	Apr 2013	#85
Do you ever post anything constructive or are you just having a bad day?	BlueStreak	Apr 2013	#86
If you lived across the street from where they caught him...	brooklynite	Apr 2013	#77
boston strong!	tralala	Apr 2013	#80

Response to longship (Original post)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 11:11 PM

Logical (22,457 posts)

1. You know many people lost hourly wages that day? Many. Business shut down because of the "request"..

And it did nothing. The guy was caught AFTER the request was lifted.

What about "shelter in place" do people not understand?

1. You know many people lost hourly wages that day? Many. Business shut down because of the "request"..

3. And the authorities KNEW that would, happen, of course.

4. Knew what would happen? Lets say it went on 4 days? Cancel games 4 days? Lock down 4 days? You....

7. If there hadn't been a lock down the boat owner might not have even looked in his boat.

12. 'Friday did nothing?' I sure don't 'understand' that.

23. It didn't go on for 4 days, so we don't know, do we?

9. Post hoc reasoning? Most illogical.

15. Why end the lock down then when he was still at large? n-t

17. What lockdown?

19. The safe harbor. They ended it Friday evening. Why end it if suspect was still at large? n-t

21. They had to end it eventually.

22. Sheesh!

37. Yes, it was a REQUEST from the Gov. The citizens could have done anything

46. Can you imagine the mayhem if Bostonians had not abided?

65. I think it was a very smart move by the Gov. n/m

25. He was caught one block beyond the perimeter set.

26. Cops did a great job. Just do not shot down the city for one suspect next time. n-t

27. Do you think the city shouldn't shut down during a big snow storm?

28. Yes, because roads are not passable. Shut down watertown, fine. But Boston? Why?

29. They shut down Boston?

30. Google "Boston Ghost Town" and see the pictures. Amazing. n-t

70. Boston was shut down too.

79. Maybe because Boston was 1/2 mile away?

33. It Did Nothing?

36. Newsflash: We are dealing with a place that is used to being snowed in.

60. And today they are alive and unmaimed to bitch about it

78. ...except that they're not.

87. You've got that right

88. They do on snow days

2. THANKS, longship.

5. A certain segment of the left thrives on indignation. It's their meat

52. This is an insulting, pompous

62. And yet so true

6. When I heard 'shelter in place'

38. As they say on the internet.. "google is your friend" n-m

8. Did employers pay the wages of those who could not go to work?

14. Irrelevant. What would have you done?

75. Hardly irrelevant to the people who live so close to the edge

18. Probably the same thing they do when there's a blizzard that shuts the city down.

24. The way I understand it,

39. Exactly right.. they could have gotten their butts to work so it's

10. "Was Boston Actually on Lockdown?"

11. I heard on the news that folks in Boston are used to 'sheltering in place' because of winter...

42. They had a big one this winter!

50. Indeed. When we get blasted with big blizzards here

53. A family with young kids ran out of milk in Watertown, see photo on link below

63. If you told me they ran out of

64. Hey, I think that it is a great photo!

71. That is cool.

13. Meant the suspect could not simply walk away in the crowd.

16. Winner

20. We had shelter in place back in the fifties when I was in grade school

31. London was hit by a far worse terrorist attack in 2005.

32. Let me see...

41. Not only did they not shut down the city...

55. You are correct.

44. And, I say "so what?" The Gov of Mass chose to REQUEST it

49. That was the purpose of my OP.

66. I know.. I was refering to the London one when I said "so what"..

68. No probs, my friend. nt

69. Not so much

54. So the fuck what?

59. Don't get what?

34. They shut down the freaking transit system. That's a lockdown.

40. "What difference could the name possibly make?"

73. Elements of all of those things were in place

81. It was a dragnet....

82. The OP was offensive and argued only about the choice of terms

83. Meanwhile, I always try to look for the humor.

48. The authorities had no way of knowing

74. I don't either. But the OP was beeching about a choice of words.

35. I would have

45. And, they wouldn't have stopped you, either.

43. In the south the terrorists would probably still be free and unharmed

47. Yep. When there are armed maniacs

51. Thanks, buddy.

57. Thank you, too.

56. The average IQ at DU has slipped of late

58. Oh, I wouldn't say that.