Edit... here is suspect two running from scene no backpack

[boston bean]

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Bottom left.

I'm sure more of these will begin to pop up around the web.

I've read it is possible this is a photoshop. Not sure how someone got such a clear pic to photoshop in, but there you have it. Many say it's real, and just as many say it's shopped. Believe what you will.


Edit 2: seems as though the pic is real. It was posted by a runner the night of the bombing. See this du link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022705445

[doublethink]

1. Nice catch ... forward this to the FBI if you havn't already. n.t.

[Coyotl]

28. The guy with the cap on backwards? No backpack visible.

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[doublethink]

45. Yep. n.t.

[Coyotl]

165. Here's the close-up magnification with some questionable pixels

View the image full-sized to see the pixelation issue.



Around his head things look wrong compared to the others. Is this image altered?

[anneboleyn]

177. ah I see what you mean...

[gateley]

181. I see what you're referring to, but I don't see a similar pic (from the FBI ones) that someone

could have shopped in here.

If it IS altered, who do you think did it?

Now you have me questioning this. Hmmmm.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

185. That's what the reddit people are saying.

This pic in this OP is better quality than anything out there.

So where did it come from if it is a PS?

They have a whole discussion on reddit about this issue and it seems to me the consensus is it is legit. Of course, all that mumbo jumbo goes over my head.

[gateley]

198. Yeah, I'm slogging through it, too -- and was relieved the consensus was it

wasn't shopped. Artifacts?

Some amazing photos posted there. The one with the poor little guy who was killed, the white cap guy and the backpack all right there.

[Coyotl]

202. Even more magnification

How different will this look if one starts with a hi-res file from the photographer? The OP has a 1200 px wide version, the source of this.



On edit. I downloaded the NY Times hi-res and here is the comparison:



The bad pixelation around the person's head is not there, so that indicates it was a JPEG compression artifact.

[cleduc]

64. That looks like a better picture than

the profile the FBI provided

[lexw]

76. That's just what I was going to post. That must be shot by someone's iPhone or something?

[ShadowLiberal]

124. I don't know, it looks a lot like one of the side view pictures of him the FBI provided

I think that shot of suspect #2 looks a lot like one of the side view shots of him the FBI provided, with the only difference being the FBI magnified his face in the picture.

[proReality]

148. It's different--look at the tilt of the chin.

FBI photo shows the chin up and this one shows it down somewhat.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

153. Try this:

http://imgur.com/RnEsldr

[DallasNE]

168. Coat In FBI Picture

Looks a lot like the coat being worn here too. Can photoshoping duplicate so many details?

[davidpdx]

127. It is a much better picture, I just wish he was turned a little more

The ones the FBI released were so blurry.

[Rex]

83. What is with the guy in the suit just standing there?

Seems to be out of place to me. Everyone else is running away. Why is he just standing there?

[Ruby the Liberal]

88. Undercover security?

Hazarding a guess...

[Rex]

139. Yeah.

After seeing a picture further out it looks that way.

[longship]

97. Yup! Looks like this shot has both of them.

Somebody forward it to FBI.

I can't. Not enough bandwidth and tools on an iPhone.

on edit: Sorry, I cannot go along with #1 guy being next to lady in pink. He does not have a white shirt on, which should show in this pic. Still the hat looks similar and the khakis are similar.

On the other hand, potential perp #2 looks like a dead on match. Even the profile of his nose looks the same. Same white hat, and all of his clothes.

Send that thing.

[Honeycombe8]

113. Can't be AFTER, can it? Man on tv said white cap was left ON the backpack....

that held the bomb, when he left it by the mailbox or wherever he left it.

[kentuck]

115. I didn't hear that?

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure this is the same guy? How many people would have that nose, that hair, white hat with an insignia, and turned backwards?

[pkdu]

2. Number #1 , 30 yards behind him next to lady in pink ?

[gateley]

4. I think you're right!

I wonder how far from the blasts they were.

For not walking together, they're certainly not far from each other in any of the photos.

I'm beginning to see why the FBI feels these may be the guys.

[kentuck]

85. That's why the white hat was on backwards...

So they would not get lost from each other...

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. I thought so but I don't know if the hat matches?????

[madokie]

38. Looks like it very well could be

[Hassin Bin Sober]

61. This guy has a black shirt. Suspect has a white v-neck t-shirt.

Also, this hat appears to have read in the front emblem. Zoom in. The white side portion is there (like the suspect's) but the front shows some red. Is there a redsox cap with that coloring because that's what it looks like to me.

[riderinthestorm]

74. Layers of clothes? Take off white v-neck pullover and there's a black shirt underneath? nt

[gateley]

81. The guy in the dark hat had a white shirt; this guy had a dark shirt, light grey hoodie, then jacket

Check out the photos in grantcart's link below.

[kentuck]

87. Or his coat is zipped up?

The collars on both look the same as FBI photos....and he is wearing khakis, it appears?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

103. Yes the collars are similar. But the hat is Different.

Also, the under coat or hoodie in the FBI photo appears gray or bluish. The shirt in the OP is black or very dark.

[LiberalElite]

95. The guy with the black hat wore the white v-neck shirt -

I just looked closer at the FBI photos and the guy with the white hat wore a blue shirt and black pants. Also, the guy with the white v-neck shirt and black hat was wearing khaki colored pants.

[kentuck]

100. But if you look closer...

it looks like he has a black shirt underneath the white T shirt?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

107. I see what you mean about black under white.

But.... whatever black is showing it is just barely showing in the V-neck (if it is a shirt and not a shadow). The OP photo shows black up high on the neck - a crew collar or maybe mock turtle.

Either way, I can't get past the hat.

[kentuck]

112. I think it is the same hat...

Just the angle shows more of the logo on the hat than the FBI copy.

Also, he could have used his white T shirt to cover up the bomb or to wave as a sign to his partner that his bomb was set.

How many people wear khakis? I think it is his partner. I'm pretty sure the white hat is the same guy.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

147. There's a pretty good FBI pic of the hat logo - - it's all white.

How many people wear khakis?

A lot of people I know do. It's a preppy look that fits right in Boston.

[kentuck]

150. I'm pretty sure the FBI photo of white hat had a logo on it?

I'll take another look.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

163. Suspect 2 has a white hat with dark logo in both pics.

Suspect 1, in the FBI photo, has a dark hat (bridgestone hat??) with an all white front logo.

The pic of what some people are saying is number 1 in this OP has red in it .

[Honeycombe8]

114. Man on tv said white cap was left ON the backpack with the bomb. Suspect did not wear it

after he left the bomb.

I thought the suspect was wearing a black jacket OVER some other shirt underneath.

The nose of this guy, though, looks the same. The suspect had a distinctive nose.

[kentuck]

118. Double checking?

Did anyone else hear what Honeycombe8 heard??

[Condem]

119. Yup.

On Chris Matthews.

[Honeycombe8]

133. I just heard it again. It was the FBI guy. He left the white cap at

scene #2 (the white cap guy set off the second bomb...scene #2). Then some pundits on tv were wondering what the purpose of leaving the cap on the backpack might've been. Maybe so that people would think someone left it there and would be back momentarily to get the backpack. I'm thinking just so he would look a bit different AFTER the bombing...the white cap stands out.

[kentuck]

140. Then obviously he gave the wrong information to Chris Mathews.

This is the same guy and he has his white hat on.

[Honeycombe8]

152. You're right. It wasn't someone talking to Tweety. It was the statement given when they

released the videos today. It was a blurb of a statement made near the end of the presentation. He was clearly wrong, or he misspoke. But he definitely made a reference to the site #2 and the restaurant, so that he wasn't speaking about site #1 (the guy with the dark cap).

[Hassin Bin Sober]

123. This seals it for me:

http://imgur.com/RnEsldr

[kentuck]

131. Definitely the same guy!

Or his twin brother, perhaps?

[Honeycombe8]

137. Yeah, that's the same guy. But I'm thinking it's not AFTER the bomb goes off.

No one looks to be running away. Although one woman looks upset. But there are a couple of men there who are just walking. I don't think anyone WALKED away after the bomb went off....except the suspects. And the FBI was clear...they have a shot of the guy leaving his white cap on the backpack for bomb #2. Don't know if it's a picture or video. It hasn't been released to the public.

That's really odd. Has this pic been turned in to the FBI? Maybe they're mistaken...or maybe he DID put his cap on the backpack, but then changed his mind and put it back on?

[kentuck]

138. Where do you think all the smoke is coming from?

A 1958 Studebaker??

[Honeycombe8]

149. Yeah...there IS that! I'm guessing the man who was making the statement...

misspoke, or ....or what? I know I heard that right. I heard it twice this evening, AND the pundits briefly discussed why he would've left his cap at the site...in front of the restaurant or wherever it was.

But here he clearly is, wearing his white cap. Maybe it wasn't a pic that showed that...maybe someone told the FBI that, and they were wrong.

This is the same pic as I've seen on the internet, though, so it's not a new pic. But those people don't seem to be running...what's up with that?

[riderinthestorm]

125. Link to a source that says hat was left ON the backpack? I haven't heard that at all nt

[kentuck]

132. Neither have I?

I think someone may have put out the wrong information or heard incorrectly?

[DevonRex]

79. Not the same guy. Hat doesn't match and

neither do the shoes. The ones on the FBI site are boot style, like hiking boots. And his khaki pants are kind of rolled up or caught up in the top of the boots/shoes. Plus, he would probably have had to zip up his jacket. He has a white tee on.

[LiberalElite]

98. FWIW I think the hair matches nt

[NoMoreWarNow]

156. huh? you can't even see the shoes or pants in that pic

[DevonRex]

160. Of the one they think might be #1 you can. 30 yards behind

next to the lady in pink. Now look at the khaki pants and shoes.

[gateley]

172. You're referring to Suspect #1. Suspect #2 had dark pants on (white hat guy).

His shirt is dark, under a light grey hoodie, then a dark jacket over it (#2).

#1 had the khaki pants.

Here's a link to a photo gallery:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/gallery/fbi-boston-suspects/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

[DevonRex]

175. Yes I am. I replied to a poster who replied to a post re #1. nt

[gateley]

178. Sorry -- I'm getting lost in all the responses.

[DevonRex]

180. That's ok.

Everybody else is lost, too. By the time I wrote my reply the whole thing had taken off in a different direction.

[NightWatcher]

23. Damn. Good eye

[October]

30. OMG, it sure looks like him

Much clearer photos, too.

[kentuck]

101. What are the odds?

Of that nose and the white hat with insignia turned backwards?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

111. There's no doubt THERE.

Someone on reddit posted a gif flipping back and forth.

[City Lights]

52. Wow, nice catch.

Hat looks similar and he's wearing the same color pants.

On edit: I just checked the other photos and he was wearing a white shirt. In this pic, it looks black.

[Gore1FL]

56. Right color clothing, it appears. n/t

[moondust]

193. Looks like it.

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CNN HD has shown this picture in high def with some blow-ups and it does appear to be suspect #1 beside the pink sweater, possibly with his coat zipped up to hide the white shirt.

What are the odds of two or more men in their 20s being in that vicinity at that time wearing khaki pants, a dark coat or hoodie, and a similar hat with similar markings? (The photo was taken with a smartphone according to the guy who took it--Mr. Green was interviewed on TV--so there could be some photo artifact or color bleeding/reflection).

[JaneyVee]

3. BACKPACK MISSING.

[Satch59]

15. So creepy

Where is this photo from? Very clear also... How these 2 could think in this digital age that this wasn't going to happen (getting video/photos of them).

[Agschmid]

36. Fairfield & Boylston...

used to be an Anthropologie store...



ETA: Due west of the bombs... near green line station Boylston

[virgogal]

135. That's not near Green Line staion Boylston.

[Agschmid]

203. The one near the old tower records?

What is that stop called?

[virgogal]

204. Hynes. Boylston is way up near the old "combat zone",now theater district. Tremont & Boylston.

[Cronus Protagonist]

5. Not to snark, but he looks like he's strolling leisurely

Doesn't make such a good OP title though. Good pic nonetheless.

[BeyondGeography]

13. Smirking, too

At least that's what I'm trying not to see.

[patrice]

25. Smart enough to know not to attract attention to himself. Must say, though, that DOES look like

a chuckle on his face, which would be a common nervous reaction.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

55. It wouldn't a nervous reaction if he is an Islamic terrorist

[patrice]

59. ??? I doubt that. Is that supposed to be funny.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

62. No.

I meant if he is the bomber and he's an Islamic terrorist he may well have thought the bombs exploding and maiming all those people was funny.

[Lex]

75. if he's the bomber and he's an American terrorist he

may well have thought the bombs exploding was funny. How does the Islamic part make it different as far as the bomber thinking it's funny?

[Lex]

82. Oh well in that case now it makes complete sense.

[Lex]

89. Nice.

Wonderful DU'er you demonstrate yourself to be.

[JDPriestly]

154. I could be very wrong, but I thought that they carried themselves

like Americans -- from the East Coast. Hands in their pockets, slightly slouched, etc.

As I said, I could be wrong. Grinning? That's quite typically American. I'm talking about the guy in the white hat. I couldn't see the guy in the black hat that well.

[Please proceed]

77. The guys who set these off

don't have to run, they only have to know how to count to two. They know it's two bombs only, no one else does.

[JI7]

92. didn't they plant more bombs but which failed to go off ?

[riderinthestorm]

99. No. Its long been known there were only 2 bombs, nothing else nt

[UrbScotty]

84. Yep - as though he knows something.

Good point.

[Agschmid]

6. Yup thats him...

forward to FBI!

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

7. I HOPE they have the right people... BUT

FBI repoted TWO BLACK BACKPACKS.

The guy in white hat was carrying a light colord backpack... NOT black.

The other guy's looked charcoal, but not black.

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Has this discrepancy been covered

[Hayabusa]

11. I still think

blue shirt guy may have had something to do with it. Call it a hunch.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

18. Me too... but the white cap guy 'too conspicuous' and wrong colored backpack... so will wait and see

[gateley]

14. You're right.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

20. If neither come forward within 48 hours..THEN my spideysense will tingle.

[gateley]

24. Yeah. Like that poor kid whose pic was plastered all over the place. I agree.

[dorkzilla]

8. Good shot!!

I am sure now that they have grainy images, the clearer ones will start appearing.

[riderinthestorm]

9. Doesn't look like he's running and one of the few people NOT looking back at the blast

at least in this pic...

[zbdent]

12. 5 buildings back, you see the guy sticking his head out the window?

Yeah ... that's the one. I think it's the guy in the hallway behind him.

[Art_from_Ark]

16. I don't know if the lack of a backpack means anything

Try running with a backpack sometime. It isn't easy, certainly not for me as it throws my body motions out of sync. If I had a backpack with just a bunch of expendable stuff like extra clothes, sports drinks, etc., in it, and I had to run away from an explosion, I'd probably ditch the backpack to make it easier for me to run. Also, it seems like no one else in the picture has a backpack, either.

[gateley]

26. The Feds said one of the guys left the backpack at a site BEFORE the bomb blast,

so he got rid of it before he started running.

[Art_from_Ark]

42. So he left it at a site and walked away from it?

Interesting. Was it left at the site when there were a lot of people around?

[gateley]

69. They're indicating that's where he "planted" it.

[Oilwellian]

106. Errr...

when one considers the number of injuries...

[SoCalDem]

48. wouldn't he get rid of it before it blew him up??

seems logical

[gateley]

71. Yes -- that's the point I was making in the response to why this guy didn't have his

backpack.

[Art_from_Ark]

91. I am a little confused by all this

Admittedly, I have not been paying as much attention to this as a lot of others because I have a full dish as it is. But one thing that confuses me is, when did the guy supposedly *plant* his backpack? Were a lot of people around? And if that were the case, and he just left his bulky backpack on the ground with a lot of people around and walked away, wouldn't that in itself attract attention?

[riderinthestorm]

104. Yes he did drop his backpack and in the 10 min from him doing it, til it went off

we have no idea if anyone was suspicious.... If so there simply wasn't enough time to create a scene.

We do know that marathon races have people at the finish who are carrying extra clothes for their loved ones so backpacks can be bulky. Some people WOULD drop such a bulky item in order to stand and watch the race finish. Its the fact that they dropped it and LEFT that would have been an issue.

But the timing was very tight.

[pamela]

108. It should have but it didn't.

FBI said they have him on tape leaving a backpack at the exact location where the bomb went off. I don't know how long it sat there unattended.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

110. My guess is there were packs all over the place with folks waiting for runners.

Probably not as suspicious as, say, an airport.

People, including the cops apparently, were watching the race.

[gateley]

162. The street was swarming with people, I doubt if they'd noticed it.

He planted it because the bomb was IN it (I'm not being snarky, just stating that in case you missed it). The bombs were in the backpacks. They left the backpacks at the sites where they wanted them to go off, then got away from there. I think everybody was focused on the street where the runners were. I think it would have been easy to overlook.

Does that make sense? I don't think I'm explaining it very well.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. Look at the 2 people next to the lady in pink against the wall

It looks like the guy is filming and if he is, the guy with the white cap probably ran right past him.

[bluestate10]

186. Nice catch. The tall guy with the short woman along the wall was filming back toward the blast.

His video should have images of both of the suspected bombers.

[TwilightGardener]

19. Not running, just kind of bookin' along with a purpose. But yeah, I'm confused about the color

of the backpacks--thought the one thing for sure was that they were black, now it doesn't seem to matter?

[gateley]

166. I heard a replay of the FBI statement and he said "backpack" -- didn't mention a color.

We've all heard they were black, but not sure when or where that started, or if that's what they were going on before they zeroed in on these guys.

[SoCalDem]

21. Close up .... enlarged

[Tx4obama]

37. He looks the same as in the other one on the FBI site - same side of face

This one...

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/image/suspect-2-profile-view-circled-high-res

[grantcart]

46. hat definitely matches

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/gallery/fbi-boston-suspects/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

pants shoes everything matches except the shirt which may be blocked.

[gateley]

80. No -- they're the same I think. Dark shirt, light grey hoodie over that, then the jacket.

Same as in one of the photos you linked to. IF we're talking about the white hat guy.

[malaise]

54. Freaking wow!

It's him

[kentuck]

93. I think so too.

Also, I think that is his partner in the khaki pants behind him. Or he took off his T-shirt and waved it like a flag as a symbol to his partner that he had his bomb set, perhaps?

[longship]

22. I think I'll wear my white cap backwards!

That way my face will be exposed, and my white cap will draw attention to me.

Who does that when they blow up a bomb in public?

Either dumb, or something.


Maybe it's just that the idiot was stylin'.

Maybe they should have chosen Red Sox caps.

[Quantess]

29. Just overconfident.

He's probably gotten away with other, smaller things before.

[certainot]

117. or he wants to show off a fake nose and wig....

[davidpdx]

130. You make a good point

It is possible he has some kind of prosthetic nose or wig to alter his appearance. The nose looked a little too big, which was suspicious.

[WilliamPitt]

35. Trying very hard to look "American."

[SoCalDem]

50. He looks like Eric Cantor to me... n/t

[certainot]

120. i immediately thought of paul ryan.

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. I thought it was strange that the cap was "nondescript". Bridgestone? Really?

Not Red Sox caps, or Yankee caps, or Patriots caps. I can't see anyone frantically saying "hey where's my Bridgestone cap?"

It's like the caps were purely an afterthought. Someone else on another thread mentioned that khakis and leather shoes were kind of strange for someone seemingly so young.

If I'm in a ball cap I'm most likely either in 501s or shorts, not khakis and leather shoes. And the cap will be something like a Dodgers cap or Titleist or Calloway. But Bridgestone? It just doesn't sit well with me.

[Mr. Evil]

116. Maybe he thought he would blend. nt

[longship]

142. As I wrote, he should have worn a Sox cap.

And pulled the bill over his face.

Now his face is going to be on the front page of every fucking newspaper and news site on the planet.

If I were him I would get plastic surgery... Fast!

[Amonester]

169. I say dumb

Planting a bomb to kill and maim bystanders (for WHAT?) is quite a dumb thing to imagine, to begin with, and worse is to actually DO it.

[NightWatcher]

27. Where did you find this?

I'm sure the right people have seen it, right?

[boston bean]

34. It's out on the web. I've been lots of places so not sure

Where I found it, but I'm sure it must have been reported to the FBI.

[dorkzilla]

44. Its on Reddit.

its the first post. They are now all going through flikr to see if they can spot the hat again. Seems likely they'll grab him first.

[Tx4obama]

31. It sure DOES look like him. n/t

[WilliamPitt]

32. SOURCE?

[sufrommich]

41. Someone originally posted it on Reddit.

It's all over the place now.

[KoKo]

53. Agree...need SOURCE..!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. Reddit thread link:

Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cn4wh/new_picture_of_suspect_2_white_hat/

[Spitfire of ATJ]

129. Someone here just said he looks like a Vulcan...

I think he looks like Frodo myself.

[kentuck]

136. Look at this Will...

http://imgur.com/RnEsldr

[dorkzilla]

159. Here is the source - some guy's facebook page.

Sorry for the double post on this thread but I know you wanted the answer so that's why I'm posting to you as well.

Look at the photos and responses...its legit.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200411483522036&set=a.1231720685525.159892.1604384014&type=1&theater

[Gin]

33. Very clear pic....anymore we can see on the web?

[Tx4obama]

39. A link to the photos on the FBI website below

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/photos

[ZRT2209]

40. why wear a white hat, backwards, if you want to be inconspicuous?

a very odd choice if this is the suspect

[SoCalDem]

43. because LOTS of young guys wear them that way?

If he'd been wearing a fedora, he would have stood out..ball cap front/backwards.... no one notices..

[ZRT2209]

47. you'd think he'd want to obscure his face, at least partially

[davidpdx]

134. Maybe not if he was wearing a prosthetic nose and wig

I think the nose looks a little too big.

[CountAllVotes]

161. I thought the same thing

the nose is not the same color as the rest of the skin on his face. It is whiter it seems to me and appears to be a prosthetic perhaps. As for the hair, it could very well be a wig. With all of these disguises, it makes the white hat and the other "flags" or whatever they were meant to be, I think it had a purpose and that was to focus of this person in particular.

I hope they find these SOBs fast and it sickens me this world we are now living in.

Some much violence. Too many guns, etc.

Hate and more hate it seems to me. Why? I wish I knew.

[Tien1985]

72. Must be a regional thing?

It's funny that it seems conspicuous to some on here. I was sitting here thinking he looks like so many people I know/see daily. About my age, dark wavy hair, white ball cap. Lots of people wear them backwards, that's not weird. I wonder if it's a regional thing?

[kentuck]

94. Because you would be easy to find in a crowd...

if you got lost from your partner?

[flamingdem]

49. For sure that's the same guy that's in the video

Sure seems like the same face and expression, wow

[flamingdem]

51. Tweety made the point that these guys were overdressed and this looks like

the same jacket .. heavy compared to what people are wearing around him.

[bluestate10]

189. Probably means that he is from a warmer climate. We have plenty of those in the USA.

Tweety made the observation that the over-dressing may have meant the suspected bomber was from outside the USA, that conclusion ignored the South and most of the lower western USA.

[Jacoby365]

57. Why is the guy at the bottom center of the photo

leaning casually against the fence with what appears to be a smile on his face, while everyone else is running from the mayhem?

[City Lights]

60. I noticed that, too!

Odd...

[Catherine Vincent]

63. I was looking at him too

Either smiling or crying. And then look at the bald guy in the suit behind the white cap guy. He's just standing there but maybe he's waiting on someone.

[FourScore]

65. did you take this picture? Have you sent it to the FBI? n/t

[Lex]

67. no he said several times

in the thread it's not his pic

[FourScore]

109. Maybe he should put it in the OP.

It's quite easy to do with the new edit button.

I don't have time to read all the comments, and I didn't see it anywhere when I scanned them.

[Lex]

66. Wasn't he wearing his backpack on his right shoulder in the other pics?

We can't really see his right shoulder in this pic, though it does seem the backpack is gone.

[City Lights]

73. Yeah, all the pics I've seen of him have the backpack over the right shoulder. nt

[carpediem]

122. I was thinking the same. But in all photos where the pack is on he has his right hand up high

like he is holding the strap, here it appears his hand is lower, closer to his waist.

[Warren DeMontague]

70. Hope they catch these fuckers, and soon.

[kentuck]

96. Why did he turn right on Fairfield Street?

Did they live there or rent a room there? Or maybe parked their car or bicycles there?

[boston bean]

102. I don't know. But when I was looking at the FBI video

I noticed that suspect number one looked like he had just put his pants on. Strange observation I know, but.....

The bottom of his pants were caught on the tongue of his shoe or boot.

Maybe he just never fixed it and was wearing it like that al day, possible I guess.

Just an observation I had. Made me think they might have changed clothes soon before and might be in the crowds earlier in tthe day casing it out, before they decided to really do the deed.

[riderinthestorm]

105. I've theorized in other threads that it looks like his pant leg is strapped for bike riding

or tucked into his boot to keep the fabric from getting caught in the chain.

[FarCenter]

167. The end of Fairfield leads to a bridge over Storrow Drive to the Charles River Esplanade

From there you can walk up to the Mass Avenue bridge over to Cambridge.

At which point you are in the MIT campus and can pick up your bike (if there isn's a bike park on the Esplanade?).

On Edit: The Fairfield bridge is "bike friendly" and leads to the Charles River Bikeway. You can go all the way out to Waltham from there.

[Mr. Evil]

121. That's funny...

He doesn't look dark-skinned to me. Rupert is such a tool.

[Cali_Democrat]

126. Cowards

[kentuck]

128. Why do some people feel the need to minimize or to mock everything?

I think this is the guy in the white hat that the FBI is looking for and they probably, evidently, need every lead they can get? But still someone has to make a joke or a wise comment?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

141. Why would he wear a white hat if he wanted to be hidden?

[Lex]

144. He was probably thinking he would fit in with a ball cap on

rather than stand out. Probably didn't occur to him he wouldn't blend so easily with it being white.

[kentuck]

145. I think they were wearing hats so they could keep track of each other...

A possibility?

[Lex]

146. Possible. nt

[DrewFlorida]

143. It looks photo-shopped to me, hat is too bright for this picture.

[amuse bouche]

151. I've seen this photo several places

Jake Tapper even tweeted it.

The only thing, is the analysts have said the bombers put their hats on the bomb after planting them. I heard that from at least 2 different people

[dorkzilla]

155. The source of the original image, FYI...

It was taken by someone attending the marathon and he put it on his fb page, people have been saying its photoshopped. It's not.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200411483522036&set=a.1231720685525.159892.1604384014&type=1&theater

[railsback]

157. If that's real

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then he's got no legs, or a center of gravity about a half foot in front of his upper body.

I take that back, after looking close. Certainly a white redneck looking kid.

[Historic NY]

158. Link to FBI's photos...qappears someone else captured them in photo's...

[link:|

[kentuck]

164. Did anyone here send this to the FBI yet?

We should not assume that they have this photo. It was taken by a runner and put on his Facebook page.

On edit: I sent it to the FBI also.

[gateley]

199. Yes -- the guy who took it has spoken to the FBI --

And Hissyspit posted that he (photographer) was on with Piers Morgan and said the Feds requested this photo.

[southern_belle]

170. Maybe its my imagination but

doesn't suspect #1 with the khaki pants look like there is a dark brown stripe or stripes down the side of his pants? Or is that a shadow I'm looking at in the photo's the FBI released today?

Anybody else see this?

[kentuck]

171. I think that is a shadow in the photography...

This is a better photo than what the FBI showed today, imo..

[southern_belle]

173. Thank you, kentuck

I wasn't sure if I should mention it but thought it was better to put it out there and be wrong.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

190. I just switched to my IPad.

The guy with the Kacky pants isn't even close.

He has a grey beard.

For some reason it shows up on the other OP on this photo in GD - correction LBN I don't know if it is the IPad or the quality of the other photo or both.

[kentuck]

195. Yeah, I saw a better photo..

Doesn't look like the other suspect at all. Maybe the husband of the lady to his right?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

196. That's what I was thinking.

[Demo_Chris]

174. From another forum

[kentuck]

176. Is that a photoshop?

If not...

[Demo_Chris]

179. I do not believe so. nt

[Hassin Bin Sober]

182. Would that be Martin's siter to his right?

His sister lost a leg.

[Demo_Chris]

184. I don't know. Just saw this posted on another forum and thought it interesting

[midnight]

205. I don't get how this bag is not connected to anyone else in this photo? Did someone get a photo of

suspect placing bag their?

[Demo_Chris]

206. No idea. :)

[midnight]

207. Perhaps someone knows why this is and can give some more insight.... Thanks

[Tx4obama]

183. The person with the photo HAS talked to the FBI

Below is the text he posted on his facebook page...

Friends & Family,
I have been feeling down since the Boston Marathon bombing because I couldn't do anything to help the injured victims...until now. Thanks to my friend Jason who pointed out to me that the photo I took right after the second bomb and posted on FB has suspect #2 in the left hand corner of the photo. White baseball cap turned backwards, black sweatshirt, NO BACKPACK right after the bomb went off. Compare to the ones posted by CNN, it is unmistakable. I spoke to the FBI and it is may be the best photo they have at current time!!! One step closer to taking these @!#?#'s down...share as much as you can so that if someone knows this person they can turn them in.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200425491872236&set=pb.1604384014.-2207520000.1366342487.&type=3&theater

[Hissyspit]

187. LBN Thread: NYT Interview with Photographer - 'Photo is real, FBI has it.' Extra large version of

photo at link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014459199#post4

April 18, 2013, 11:13 pm

New, Higher-Resolution Image of Boston Marathon Suspect Emerges

By RAVI SOMAIYA and JEREMY ZILAR

Shortly after finishing the Boston Marathon this week David Green, 49, was walking to meet friends when two bombs exploded in front of him as he faced east on the corner of Fairfield and Boylston Streets. He snapped a photograph with his iPhone before rushing to help those wounded.

He posted it to Facebook with an account of his experiences.

On Thursday, when the Federal Bureau of Investigation released images of the two suspects in the blast, Mr. Green’s friends began to notice a figure in the bottom left corner of his picture that closely resembled one of the suspects.

One posted it in a running forum, from where it went viral, and sparked a debate over its veracity.

In an interview late Thursday, Mr. Green, who runs a sportswear company in Florida, confirmed that the picture was genuine, and that the F.B.I. had contacted him and requested a copy. “I have spoken to several agents,” Mr. Green said, “and they have got the photos, they are picking up material from me, and I don’t think there’s any doubt.” Mr. Green said he took the photo at 2:50:15 p.m. on Monday.

Agents had told him, he said, that his picture was the best they had, because it was taken from a better camera than the others that were posted.

[WilliamPitt]

188. PIC PUBLISHED BY NEW YORK TIMES

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/new-higher-resolution-image-of-boston-marathon-suspect-emerges/

[kentuck]

191. And per a previous poster:

Fairfield St goes across the Charles River and right into the campus of MIT....They are having some activity on the campus as we speak.

[WilliamPitt]

192. Cop shot.

Jesus.

[kentuck]

194. Somebody said a 7/11 robbed....

by a black guy in cowboy hat. Don't know if there is any connection there?

[kentuck]

200. Perhaps this somebody is not credible?

There could be a possible connection

[Hissyspit]

197. "UPDATE #3 Piers Morgan just interviewed Green." FBI requested photo at 7 tonight. Other suspect

is not in photo.

From Greg Mitchell:

http://gregmitchellwriter.blogspot.com/2013/04/suspect-number-2-rounding-corner-after.html

UPDATE #2: NYT story tonight--talked to photog David Green who says FBI requested photo after it went viral tonight. So in this case the crowd-sourcing really paid off big-time. Also, see below, new high-res closeup. UPDATE #3 Piers Morgan just interviewed Green. He had contacted FBI about having several photos on Monday (via cell phone) but didn't know then about white cap guy. Contacted the FBI again tonight at 7:00 and then they requested specific photo. He adds that the guy behind him is not suspect #2 due to different color on cap. Of course, he points out suspect no longer has backpack. BTW, I believe I was first to post the photo, beyond Reddit, before 8 p.m.

[Coyotl]

201. Could be PhotoShopped?

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Looking at the individual pixels, compare the various persons and the pixels around their heads. This is just a capture of the original image in the OP elarged in PhotoShop, then captured with Grab, an iMac app.

Now compare this blow-up of the 3200 pixel wide original from the photopgrapher:





The image seems Photoshopped when examining the 1200 pixes version, so that's likely a JPEG compression artifact.