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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:42 PM

Speculative Indulgence; one of three groups.

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We don't know who set off the bombs at the Boston Marathon but I am reasonably sure that it is a Muslim fundamentalist or a RW militia-type tea bagger or some clinically insane person with no clear discernible ideology.

The chances of it being some left wing ideologue or some nationalist or religious or political movement not known for such things is possible, but don't expect it.

Edited to add a fourth group, thanks to another poster - someone trying to murder a specific person.


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Reply Speculative Indulgence; one of three groups. (Original post)
arely staircase Apr 2013 OP
geckosfeet Apr 2013 #1
arely staircase Apr 2013 #2
WCGreen Apr 2013 #3
arely staircase Apr 2013 #4
olddots Apr 2013 #5
geckosfeet Apr 2013 #6
arely staircase Apr 2013 #7
geckosfeet Apr 2013 #9
Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #29
Bay Boy Apr 2013 #8
arely staircase Apr 2013 #25
bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #10
SpartanDem Apr 2013 #11
bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #13
arely staircase Apr 2013 #14
arely staircase Apr 2013 #15
bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #17
arely staircase Apr 2013 #18
bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #32
arely staircase Apr 2013 #16
arely staircase Apr 2013 #12
bushisanidiot Apr 2013 #31
Old Troop Apr 2013 #19
arely staircase Apr 2013 #20
Old Troop Apr 2013 #21
arely staircase Apr 2013 #22
backscatter712 Apr 2013 #27
arely staircase Apr 2013 #28
Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #23
backscatter712 Apr 2013 #24
arely staircase Apr 2013 #26
jessie04 Apr 2013 #30

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:47 PM

1. rw militia-type XTIAN FUNDY tea bagger covers more bases. Your bound to hit one of them....

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:49 PM

2. i figure the tea bagger could be a fundie or not

eom

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:49 PM

3. I know exactly who did this...

Someone that can make a bomb and that is all we really know...

Idle speculation does no one any good.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:54 PM

4. yes that is what we know

speculation is only natural

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:57 PM

5. I agree the pattern and M.O. are nowhere near exposed now

 

it could be a single guy in their 50s living in Natick with his mom or a bunch of wanna be G.I. Joe types that can't figure reality from games. NOBODY KNOWS RIGHT NOW !!!!!! there are cameras everywhere they will turn something up that will lead to something of the bomber/bombers will screw up as usual and get caught.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:57 PM

6. Or at least someone who knows where to get a bomb and how to set it off...

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:59 PM

7. no that isn't enough

he/she also has to want to, not just know how.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:02 PM

9. Well of course. To seek out the materials to make, or to buy a device and then set it off

in a crowded busy street with tens of thousand of innocent bystanders takes a special kind of evil.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:54 PM

29. +1. nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:01 PM

8. What should be the government response...

...to each of the possibilities?

The deranged lunatic response is easiest. What about the other two?

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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:14 PM

25. my post is about motivation

government response would go to jurisdiction, constitutionality and a host of things which would be better served by their own threads. drones, detention, constitutional rights are really too important to be relegated to my speculation about motivation.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:04 PM

10. 2 out of 4 bombs failed

Al quaeda are trained terrorists. Whoever did this did not know what they were doing, which leads me to think they were tea bagger type, gun toting, anti-american domestic terrorists.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:12 PM

11. They all have spotty records.

the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber. RWingers that left a bomb in the MLK parade in Portland last year and I'm pretty sure they found a bomb outside an abortion clinic last year as well. It's clear it wasn't pro, but way too early to say whether it was a teabagger or a Muslim fundie.

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:15 PM

13. The Waco seige occurred on patriots day. The oklahoma city bombing was the day after patriots day.

Sorry, but there are more signs pointing to right wing terrorists than not.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:16 PM

14. is this the anniversary of something?

eom

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:19 PM

15. ah, just read the article on Patriots Day

yes that does lend credence to a rw theory. the choice of targets seems odd for militia teabagger types, though.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:27 PM

17. I think its more the significance.. Boston TEA PARTY, national coverage of a large event (marathon

Patriots day, tax day, Jackie robinsons breaking the color barrier in baseball 60 years ago also appeals to the racist aspect of the right wing terrorist.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:37 PM

18. the victims of rw american terrorism are usually public employees

that is one reason I want to lean toward Islamists or a just plain old crazy person. but there was a racist attempt at a marathon in Seattle, so yeah, Patriot Day plus Marathon could be significant.

this type of speculation - reasonable back and forth is why I started this thread. I don't know who did it either. I stick to my one of three groups thesis but i'm back and forth on which one it could be.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:06 PM

32. President Lincoln died on 4/15.

Another significant event tht international terrorists wouldnt care about, but do estic right wingers would.

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:20 PM

16. oh yeah, the Portland thing

eom

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:14 PM

12. al quaeda ,makes duds too

underwear fool and times square asshole come to mind.

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Response to bushisanidiot (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:17 PM

31. Make that 3 out of 5 bombs failed.

I think THAT should be the headline when describing the terrorists.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:38 PM

19. Many years ago

I lived next door to an Army CID agent on a military base overseas. We used to drink beer and tell lies. We really got along well. One day I was in the field and we had a soldier killed in an explosion in a mortar pit. The agent (my friend) showed up in our tactical operations center (TOC) shortly after the incident and ordered all of us to step away from all communications devices and place our ID cards on field desks in front of us. He took each of outside individually and questioned us about what we knew. That included the battalion commander and many other who greatly outranked him.
Weeks later we were having a beer together and I asked him why he had been such a hard ass to us. He told me that criminal investigators initially treat any event involving loss of life as a possible murder regardless of the circumstances.
My point is that it is too early for anyone to speculate about right or left wing terrorists. What if this was a case of a sophisticated individual trying to murder someone he hated?

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Response to Old Troop (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:42 PM

20. sophisticated individual trying to murder someone he hated?

ok, that is possible too and not covered in my three groups. yours is the best reply to my post so far. that is very possible - non-ideological, non-disturbed person trying to kill someone specifically and using terrorism as a ruse.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:58 PM

21. The timing seems a little

strange. If you were a terrorist, wouldn't you want your "event" to occur when the media was there in strength? Of course, it could be anything that you mentioned.

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Response to Old Troop (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:59 PM

22. sure, but thanks for adding a fourth eom

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:42 PM

27. Theoretically possible, but I doubt it.

This is the wrong way to target a specific individual.

The MO of a second bomb exploding right after the initial blast, to get the first-responders, is classic terrorist.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:47 PM

28. it is unlikely, correct

but I give it credit for being plausible and outside the scope of my op.

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Response to Old Troop (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:02 PM

23. Thank you for sharing that anecdote. It's obviously very early on but...

...I think both the conjecture and experiences like yours help temper and round out a good discussion at a time like this.

PB

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:05 PM

24. I'm betting on a right-wing extremist group.

The neo-Nazis have been getting brazen lately.

And the anti-fed militia types have been going apeshit because of the calls for firearms regulation.

And it's Tax Day. And Patriot Day. And close to 4/20, Hitler's Birthday.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:38 PM

26. if it is right wing i feel safe in betting it is the overtly racist fatr righ

like skinheads, christian identity, Aryan brotherhood.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:54 PM

30. I vote RW militia-type tea bagger.

 

just a thought.

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