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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:41 PM Apr 2013

Cutting Social Security and Medicare could save Democratic seats in 2014!!!

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/0411/How-liberal-anger-at-Obama-budget-helps-the-president-Democrats/

How liberal anger at Obama budget helps the president, Democrats
The president's budget, with its cost-saving measures in Social Security and Medicare, has infuriated the left. That positions Obama more to the center and could help him achieve other goals – and save some Democratic seats in 2014.
By Linda Feldmann, Staff writer / April 11, 2013

...Obama’s maneuver on Social Security could also help centrist Democrats facing reelection next year. In particular, there are five Senate Democrats from red states who could be in trouble, depending, in part, upon whom the Republicans nominate. A moderated image for Obama could help them. They are Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Mark Begich of Alaska, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Max Baucus of Montana, and Kay Hagan of North Carolina.

In addition, the Democrats are defending the seats of three retirees in states that could easily go Republican: South Dakota, West Virginia, and Iowa.

Currently, the Democrats control the Senate 55 to 45; to win a majority, Republicans need a net gain of six seats. That’s certainly doable, and so it’s in Obama’s interests to help his party’s moderates wherever possible. Given that the Democrats’ chances of retaking the House next year are a long shot, holding onto the Senate is probably the best Obama can do...

“The White House is not particularly concerned about the latest round of threats – even as groups like Progressive Change Campaign Committee, Democracy for America, and MoveOn.org insist they are not bluffing,” write Glenn Thrush and Byron Tau in Politico...

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AndyA

(16,993 posts)
1. That's assuming that the Democrats who disagree vote
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

Being told one thing during the 2012 campaign, then doing the opposite isn't going to GOTV in 2014. A lot of Dems will be disgusted, and stay home.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
5. 2010
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:53 PM
Apr 2013

We lost the House. It's happened before, and it can happen again. If the SCOTUS is such a concern, Dems should be encouraging voters to remain engaged instead of angering them. We didn't donate money, knock on doors, make phone calls, and get President Obama re-elected for him to head in a different direction months after the election that gave him anther four years.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
3. This makes no sense. You don't win moderate voters by cutting Social Security.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:47 PM
Apr 2013

If anything, it takes Social Security - a winning issue for Dems - off the table.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
17. This seems like something written by a Beltway idiot running on autopilot.
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:27 PM
Apr 2013

The only useful information to be gathered from it is that a certain stripe of writer out there has come to instinctively understand that you should always urge the Democrats to embrace a far-right political agenda and call it "moderate". And it always-- always means the "left" should be ignored in the future.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
4. Since when do moderate voters want SS cut? Since when do Republican voters want SS cut?
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:52 PM
Apr 2013

This is an outright assault on SS. Wow. We're totally being triangulated. If this is now the "common wisdom" we're being sold a shit sandwich. This is even worse than I thought.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
7. OK, it's been said before but I'll say it again:
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:54 PM
Apr 2013

Preserving earned benefits is not a "centrist" move! It's the default position for *any* Dem!!

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
10. I guess we "libruls" missed the overwhelming mandate the American voters gave to slash our
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:00 PM
Apr 2013

benefits we've paid into all of our lives.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
9. Nobody wants a cut to the programs
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
Apr 2013

Obama has been shown to all the world he is nothing but a puppet for billionaires and Wall Street interests.

If the Democrats go along with his bullshit, they DESERVE to lose.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
12. What a load. When people have a choice between voting for Republicans or Democrats who act like
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:03 PM
Apr 2013

Republicans, they usually go with Republicans.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
14. So
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:18 PM
Apr 2013

Obama is not running for anything so he doesn't give a rats ass about much, have apparently doesn't care what his legacy will, so piss on all of the small folk out here and please the big money people...I will work and donate to any Dem who votes against any and all cuts that hurt SS or Medicare...I will work against any and all who vote in favor of any SS or Medicare cuts...BUT I will not vote for a repug no matter what ..

I do not hate Obama, but I am pretty deeply disappointed in his policies and his inability to be the leader he could have been. He is a "people pleaser" and does not seem to understand that they are eating his lunch and laughing at him behind his back. pretty sad for sure.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
16. "That positions Obama more to the center".
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:21 PM
Apr 2013

Right-wing voters don't want Social Security cuts, either-- so this statement is absurd on its face.

Unless "center" has come to mean "the 1%".

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