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This is the water in Tuckerman Arkansas today (Original Post) TalkingDog Apr 2013 OP
I am appalled. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #1
What can you do with water like that? Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #2
What can you do with water like that? bvar22 Apr 2013 #4
It's a deplorable situation.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #5
Are you sure about no coal reserves in your area of Arkansas? flyingfysh Apr 2013 #7
We are pretty sure. bvar22 Apr 2013 #14
It would be great if someone would invent something that could rhett o rick Apr 2013 #37
Bottle it up and leave it at the door of the Exxon honchos. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #6
I'd like to force them to drink it.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #9
No "so" about it. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #10
Put a wick in the bottle light it with a bic and throw it at the Exxon Mobile pricks. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #28
Just for clarification, this is Tuckerman, not Mayflower, Arkansas Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #34
Nothing. It is poisoned for a long, long time. Exxon must be held accountable. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #24
Absolutely! Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #25
ugh. ewww. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #3
Can't drink it, can't bathe in it, can't cook with it. Hell, can't even water the lawn with it! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #8
Blame it on this guy... Blanks Apr 2013 #11
Tim Griffin OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #21
The Real Story joshokc Apr 2013 #12
What, exactly, about my post was inaccurate? TalkingDog Apr 2013 #16
Consider the source... ReRe Apr 2013 #26
It was misleading by omission. "A fire hydrant shook loose deposits of iron and manganese" greyl Apr 2013 #31
I did not add nor omit commentary. My intention was not to mislead. If it is taken as such. TalkingDog Apr 2013 #38
Why didn't you add a comment? JimDandy Apr 2013 #45
The article also says that the water problems have gone on for months. pacalo Apr 2013 #46
This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #27
Someone posts a link to a news story about the event in question... Purrfessor Apr 2013 #30
Oh, come on, it makes perfect sense (for DU sometimes) Seeking Serenity Apr 2013 #42
: ohiosmith Apr 2013 #43
So the OP leaves out pertinent info JimDandy Apr 2013 #44
Frack fracking! Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #13
Could be the same reason as this. bluedigger Apr 2013 #15
Is this due to the oil spill or fracking? How far is Mayflower from Tuckerman? Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #17
Mayflower's about 75 miles from Tuckerman Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #35
I see that I wasn't the only one who jumped to the conclusion that this was related to the Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #39
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #18
North Pole Alaska dem in texas Apr 2013 #19
This Can't Be From The Mayflower, Arkansas Spill DallasNE Apr 2013 #20
Talkingdog... do you have a link to share? blaze Apr 2013 #22
It's from Facebook: Eva Norris Henriksen posted it initally. TalkingDog Apr 2013 #23
chocolate milk? spanone Apr 2013 #29
Is that related to the oil spill, or not?...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #32
in the link upthread... druidity33 Apr 2013 #36
K & R HCE SuiGeneris Apr 2013 #33
Don't wash your clothes in that. Seeking Serenity Apr 2013 #40
We had a well in OKC; every now and then the walls would shed some dirt. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #41
Yummy Wednesdays Apr 2013 #47

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
4. What can you do with water like that?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:59 PM
Apr 2013

Heat your home in the Winter?

Actually, My Wife & I are watching this closely.
We moved to rural Arkansas in 2006 to get away from stuff like this.
Luckily, there is no drilling, pipelines, coal, or gas reserves in this area.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
7. Are you sure about no coal reserves in your area of Arkansas?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:07 PM
Apr 2013

My grandfather used to run a coal mine, until it went bankrupt in the Depression. He always told me that there was enough coal in Arkansas alone to satisfy the energy needs of the whole country for a hundred years. And not too far from his house, there was an oil well in the middle of a field. Every time I passed it, I could see a flame at the top where excess natural gas was burned off.

This was in western Arkansas, near Fort Smith.

But for picturesque areas, you can't beat northwest Arkansas (Ozarks). And look up Eureka Springs on the web, it's worth a visit.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. We are pretty sure.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:30 PM
Apr 2013

We did the necessary research.
Ft Smith is in the middle of an active gas field that stretches eastward to central Arkansas.
We are quite a bit to the south,
and only 3 test wells have ever been drilled in our county,
and they were Plugged and Abandoned.

No coal has ever been produced in this county.

Still, there is no way to be absolutely certain.
An on property source of abundant clean water was at the top of our list.

The Ozarks are beautiful, especially this time of the year.
We chose further south, the Ouachita Mountains west of Mena for the longer growing season and better deals on pristine property.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
37. It would be great if someone would invent something that could
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:35 AM
Apr 2013

get the energy out of that liquid. Even if "broke even" (used as much energy as it produced) it would be wonderful for clean ups. But be hard to do w/o any polluting byproducts.

Just rambling.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Bottle it up and leave it at the door of the Exxon honchos.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:06 PM
Apr 2013

Right after you collect a bunch of bottles for your lawsuit
along with the film of the stuff pouring out of the tap
and send some to be analysed.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
9. I'd like to force them to drink it....
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:11 PM
Apr 2013

Water is so essential to life...how dare they pollute it to this extent? I am so sick of the anything for a profit attitude.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
34. Just for clarification, this is Tuckerman, not Mayflower, Arkansas
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:23 AM
Apr 2013

Tuckerman is a small town in Jackson County, about 75 miles from Mayflower (Faulkner County), where the oil spill occurred.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
8. Can't drink it, can't bathe in it, can't cook with it. Hell, can't even water the lawn with it!
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:09 PM
Apr 2013

I thought all those microbes got rid of the oil. No problem.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
21. Tim Griffin
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:03 PM
Apr 2013

U.S. Attorney Bud Cummins was forced to resign on December 20, 2006. Mr. Cummins’ replacement, Tim Griffin, was appointed to the position five days earlier (Arkansas Times, 2006). Mr. Griffin had previously worked for the Republican National Committee and had been an opposition researcher for presidential advisor Karl Rove (Satter, 2006).

Arkansas Times. (2006, December 28). End around. Arkansas Times. Retrieved November 26, 2008, from http://www.arktimes.com

Satter, L. (2006, December 16). Prosecutor post is filled in recess. Arkansas Democrat Gazette. Retrieved November 26, 2008, from http://www.nwanews.com/adg/news/175895 /

greyl

(22,990 posts)
31. It was misleading by omission. "A fire hydrant shook loose deposits of iron and manganese"
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:53 PM
Apr 2013

The explanation in the linked article here is plausible, and you should be thanking the person for adding credible information to your thread.

edit: I mean the linked article has even more pictures of the brown water fercrissakes! Way to go.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
38. I did not add nor omit commentary. My intention was not to mislead. If it is taken as such.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:48 AM
Apr 2013

So be it.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
45. Why didn't you add a comment?
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:57 PM
Apr 2013

Had you done so, noone would have gone down the wrong path. It means I'm not likely to pay attention to your next OP.

So be it.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
46. The article also says that the water problems have gone on for months.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:48 PM
Apr 2013
"Tuckerman's brown water is well known in this area," Ledbetter said. "Until we get it fixed, this community is going to have a bad reputation."

ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
27. This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand!
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:11 PM
Apr 2013

At Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:00 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

The Real Story
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2644740

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newb trolling on Exxon's behalf it looks like

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Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
30. Someone posts a link to a news story about the event in question...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:47 PM
Apr 2013

A link to a story that explains the probable causes for the discolored water, and it draws an alert? That does not make sense to me. So what if the poster has one post. It was a link to a local news story. How is it possible that some folks on this board know more about what is going on in Tuckerman than the actual people who live in Tuckerman? An Exxon conspiracy? in Tuckerman? Really?

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
42. Oh, come on, it makes perfect sense (for DU sometimes)
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:03 AM
Apr 2013

Some folk clearly thought (hoped?) there was a connection between the discolored water in Tuckerman and the pipeline spill (after all, it is Arkansas and obviously events in Arkansas cannot happen independently of one another in a small state like that. So when someone posts a local-source news story showing that it's NOT related, and given that that was the poster's first post, someone immediately saw it as trollish (how dare my righteous indignation be disturbed by being dis-proven??)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
44. So the OP leaves out pertinent info
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 01:51 PM
Apr 2013

and the Jury doesn't even read the article at the link.

Come on folks...let's get properly informed so we can make accurate decisions and pertinent comments.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
15. Could be the same reason as this.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:35 PM
Apr 2013
Some Cortez residents may have been surprised to find a stream of orange water coming out of their faucets on Thursday.

The city flushes water that comes in from the water treatment plant every spring. The flushing can stir the water up and create a layer of biofilm, which causes the water to change color, said Don Royce, with the city's Public Works Department.

The biofilm is harmless, Royce said, and should settle down this morning. Only a few places in the city saw the orange water, including on Main Street, East Second Street and South Valley Road, as well as the area near City Park.http://www.cortezjournal.com/article/20130404/NEWS01/130409900/-1/News01/City's-orange-water-is--off-color-but-not-unsafe


I'm not saying their water supply doesn't suck, but there could be a reasonable explanation, too.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
39. I see that I wasn't the only one who jumped to the conclusion that this was related to the
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:10 AM
Apr 2013

Mayflower oil spill. I'm glad that one poster set us straight.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
19. North Pole Alaska
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:53 PM
Apr 2013

We lived near North Pole, Alaska during the 1960's and we had a well and had brown water although it was not as brown as the water show in the picture. I could not wash clothes in the water, I had to go in to Fairbanks to the Laundromat to wash clothes. The water was tested and was safe, but it tasted terrible . I learned to drink hot tea then because it covered the taste of the water. It stained everything. I think it was iron in the water. I used lots of Zudd to clean stains left by the water. But, here I am in 2013 and still alive and kicking.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
20. This Can't Be From The Mayflower, Arkansas Spill
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:58 PM
Apr 2013

Because of the geography of Arkansas. These towns are 60 miles apart, plus Tuckerman is in a general uphill direction from Mayflower. Something else is the source of the problem in Tuckerman.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
23. It's from Facebook: Eva Norris Henriksen posted it initally.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:16 PM
Apr 2013

If you don't have Facebook I don't know what to suggest.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
36. in the link upthread...
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:15 AM
Apr 2013

county/municipal officials are saying the water is safe, this has happened before, that it's excess iron and manganese, and that the water treatment facility is in need of some upgrades...



Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
40. Don't wash your clothes in that.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:19 AM
Apr 2013

The excess iron and manganese that's discoloring the water will stain your clothes, and it won't ever come out.

Every six months to a year, when Central Arkansas Water flushes out its lines, customers are told not to wash clothes in the week that their part of the service area is being flushed. Iron and manganese are naturally occurring minerals here. It's gonna collect in water lines, period. Some water systems are just better able to deal with it than others. I feel for the residents of Tuckerman. But the water is safe for human consumption.

And, NO, it has NOTHING to do with a pipeline spill 75 miles away and downhill from Tuckerman.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
41. We had a well in OKC; every now and then the walls would shed some dirt.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:47 AM
Apr 2013

Running the faucets non-stop for days or not all until it settled was the only way to get it clear again.

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