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MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:18 PM Mar 2013

Ham on Easter? An Interesting Tradition.

So, why do we eat ham on Easter, I wondered. I thought about it for a while. We eat turkey on Christmas and Thanksgiving, but ham is traditional for Easter.

Then it suddenly hit me! Jews don't eat ham. That's why we eat Ham on Easter, during the Passover season. Now, Jesus was Jewish. I don't think he ate ham. But we do. Christians do.

Isn't that interesting?

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Ham on Easter? An Interesting Tradition. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2013 OP
It's not an accident that ex post 1492 geek tragedy Mar 2013 #1
Actually, many don't celebrate Easter. And I do turkey glowing Mar 2013 #2
As it's one of the times it needn't be special ordered, we eat lamb on Easter. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #3
I'm cooking rack of lamb for Easter. MineralMan Mar 2013 #5
That's what we had, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #34
Korban pesach-- it's what's for dinner. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #37
Since the kids grew up & moved away, we don't "do" holiday meals SoCalDem Mar 2013 #4
During the Inquisition TlalocW Mar 2013 #6
Interesting. The ham meant you weren't a Jew. MineralMan Mar 2013 #9
And then there are the bacon-filled chocolate bunnies Silent3 Mar 2013 #7
+1 LOL LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #13
I'm thinking about baked rabbit. No. not for Easter, just thinking that I haven't had it since I demosincebirth Mar 2013 #29
Many of the customs practiced on Easter... love_katz Mar 2013 #8
That was the way of the Catholic Church TlalocW Mar 2013 #14
Same with the Kabaa. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #21
Depends on the country Retrograde Mar 2013 #10
It's a seasonal spring food for the northern hemisphere. politicat Mar 2013 #11
The "gras" in mardi gras is the fat from the last winter pig Recursion Mar 2013 #12
Bacon grease? demosincebirth Mar 2013 #30
Better than ham for easter? Why, rabbit of course! Kip Humphrey Mar 2013 #15
I have tried every year to serve Easter Bunny Stew, MineralMan Mar 2013 #16
We are going to our fave restaurant and tap room for an Easter Brunch! CTyankee Mar 2013 #17
Lapin Ragout zipplewrath Mar 2013 #18
Serve them hasenpfeffer JHB Mar 2013 #22
Every Christian I know eats lamb on Easter and it's likely that Jesus Cleita Mar 2013 #19
I love how much I learn on DU mainer Mar 2013 #20
As others have posted, Jenoch Mar 2013 #23
Mexican dinner on Easter, at our house, was home made pork tamales, chicken and cheese enchiladas, demosincebirth Mar 2013 #31
I love Mexican food, Jenoch Mar 2013 #35
My mother used to make 'em from scratch. She had a Metate and ground her corn to make "la maza" demosincebirth Mar 2013 #36
My mother was a good cook Jenoch Mar 2013 #38
I just like ham. Zax2me Mar 2013 #24
I make ham on Christmas and Easter Freddie Mar 2013 #25
I was taught that it symbolizes our freedom from the Old Testament Laws. They were fulfilled by jwirr Mar 2013 #26
I like Ham better than Turkey Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #27
We just eat ham because we like it. Shrike47 Mar 2013 #28
The worshippers of the mother goddess Demeter Generic Other Mar 2013 #32
I am going to my sister's house for Easter and we both hate ham. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #33
 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
2. Actually, many don't celebrate Easter. And I do turkey
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:22 PM
Mar 2013

for thanksgiving and ham for Christmas and its been like that in my family forever. We did do Easter as a kid, but Since being in the real adult world, I haven't had a Sunday off unless I've taken a vacation day in years (since 17.. 17yrs of no Sundays to my own devise).

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. As it's one of the times it needn't be special ordered, we eat lamb on Easter.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:27 PM
Mar 2013

And afterward have lamb shaped yellow cake with shredded coconut frosting and large, dark, false eyelashes.

Neither of us practice a religious dietary discipline, it just works out that way...

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
5. I'm cooking rack of lamb for Easter.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:32 PM
Mar 2013

Love it. Even though I'm an atheist, a lot of people around me aren't. They celebrate Easter. I celebrate good food, whatever the occasion.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
34. That's what we had, too.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:15 PM
Mar 2013

Although, there was at least one year where my dad got a beef crown roast. And, the lamb cakes my grandma made were pound cake, with raisin eyes and half a red jelly bean for a nose. That was the highlight of the holiday.

I don't recall ever having had ham on Easter. I would remember that, as I really don't like ham.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
37. Korban pesach-- it's what's for dinner.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:39 AM
Mar 2013

Eating the Lamb of God for Easter always struck me as right up there with having rabbit as the protein.

TlalocW

(15,373 posts)
6. During the Inquisition
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:32 PM
Mar 2013

It was a good idea to have your Easter ham hanging outside your door so Inquisition officials or even your own neighbor didn't turn you in for being suspected of being a Jew.

Also, supposedly, this is where we get the phrases, "A pig in a poke," and "Letting the cat out of the bag."

When the south of Spain was under Muslim rule, ham was of course verboten so there was a black market for it. A poke was a type of sack big enough to hold a small pig. Of course, you never knew who was around, even in secluded places so you bought the pig sight unseen, which is what the phrase refers to now - buying something sight unseen or without proof it is what it is. Unscrupulous sellers would sometimes put a cat in the bag instead of a pig, make the sale, then scram. Once the seller opened the poke, the (unfortunate in this case) secret was revealed, and that's how the term letting the cat out of the bag came to be.

TlalocW

demosincebirth

(12,529 posts)
29. I'm thinking about baked rabbit. No. not for Easter, just thinking that I haven't had it since I
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:52 PM
Mar 2013

was a teenager.

love_katz

(2,578 posts)
8. Many of the customs practiced on Easter...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:36 PM
Mar 2013

were brought to this country by the Germans.

They brought old customs from pre-christian times. Pork was often eaten in Germany, and pork was often eaten as a festival food.

It is no surprise, then, that we have bunnies, egg hunts, sweets and ham as part of the celebration.

Those customs are from the old ways...they have nothing specifically to do with christian beliefs about a resurrection. The church could not get the people to drop their old customs, so they just renamed them, and gave the customs a grudging blessing.

TlalocW

(15,373 posts)
14. That was the way of the Catholic Church
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:51 PM
Mar 2013

Move in and co-opt the local/pagan customs to theirs. Substitute saints for the local gods, etc. Christmas traditions all come from the Roman Saturnalia and pagan symbolism. Easter from celebrations of the return of Spring. All Saints Day never really caught on as the various pagan events that became Halloween have never really taken on a Christian/Catholic flavor. Santeria is Catholic-influenced - Cuban slaves worshiped their orishas as Catholic saints. Mexico's Catholicism comes from the church co-opting all the various Aztec and Mayan gods into saints, etc.

TlalocW

 

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)
21. Same with the Kabaa.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013
http://redicecreations.com/article.php

Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca, is one of the greatest religious observances in Islam. This year, Hajj is expected to fall between November 4-9.

People often associate Hajj with the familiar image of devout Muslims making the journey to the Kabaa, and seven-times circling the ancient stone building towards which they pray. The gathering in the plain of Arafat symbolises the climax of the hajj pilgrimage, and in 2010 two million Muslims were at the site together on a single day.

What is less commonly known is the presence of a holy relic - literally a cornerstone - that is part of the worship. The origins of the dark stone remains a mystery to not only Muslims but geologists, scientists and historians alike.

Does the black stone reveal pagan goddess-worshiping roots of Islam?

The Black Stone is a Muslim relic, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. Historical research claims that the Black Stone marked the Kaaba as a place of worship during pre-Islamic pagan times.

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
10. Depends on the country
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:43 PM
Mar 2013

In Greece, lamb is the preferred meat for Easter. My family's traditional foods were sausages, eggs and things made in the shapes of lambs.

A less conspiratorial reason: Easter occurs in early spring. In northern countries, where a lot of US traditions come from, there wasn't much in the way of fresh food available, as the livestock not needed for breeding were often killed in the fall and preserved as best as possible. Pigs were a good food animal in northern Europe, and it's relatively easy to preserve large chunks of them - like the legs, by making them into hams or grinding up bits for sausages - by smoking. So when Easter rolls around and it's time for a feast after the six meatless weeks of Lent the pig parts hanging in the smokehouse (or regular house, for that matter) are ready to eat.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
11. It's a seasonal spring food for the northern hemisphere.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:43 PM
Mar 2013

A properly dry cured, smoked ham that was slaughtered in the late autumn is only really ready in early spring (and Lent tends to cut into that, for those who practice.) Ham takes several months (bacon takes 30-45 days, salt pork takes a couple weeks. Ham, due to the thickness of the muscle, takes much longer.) In some areas, the suckling pigs are ready to be slaughtered, so that's also a possibility. Once the ham is ready, you want to consume it before the heat of summer sets in.

The second alternative, lamb, is the spring meat because you're culling the excess male lambs. Cows usually haven't dropped by mid-March to Mid-April, so veal isn't yet available.

Migratory large fowl (primarily ducks and geese) are just returning.

Pigs have always been cheaper to keep than sheep, and have rarely been preserved for their milk and wool. Until we developed industrial beef, pork of some sort was the poverty meat -- usually some variation of salt pork or sausage, because a little goes a long way and cured pork is usually pretty flavorful.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. The "gras" in mardi gras is the fat from the last winter pig
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:44 PM
Mar 2013

The easter ham is the one you started smoking last autumn and is ready now.

This is way older than Judaism or Christianity.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
16. I have tried every year to serve Easter Bunny Stew,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:53 PM
Mar 2013

but my wife's family will have none of it. They don't know what they're missing.

Maybe I should change the name...you think?

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
17. We are going to our fave restaurant and tap room for an Easter Brunch!
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:57 PM
Mar 2013

$20 and only $3 for a Bloody Mary or a Mimosa. Whoever invented the custom of a Bloody Mary brunch was a genius...

JHB

(37,152 posts)
22. Serve them hasenpfeffer
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:22 PM
Mar 2013

Hasenpfeffer is a traditional German stew made from marinated rabbit or hare, cut into stewing-meat sized pieces and braised with onions and wine in a marinade thickened with the animal's blood. Hase is German for hare and Pfeffer is German for pepper, although here it refers generically to the spices and seasonings in the dish, as with the German ginger cookies Pfeffernüsse. Seasonings typically include (besides pepper): salt, onions, garlic, lemon, thyme, rosemary, allspice, juniper berries, cloves, and bay leaf. In the North American pioneer era, German immigrants frequently cooked squirrel in the same manner.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasenpfeffer

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. Every Christian I know eats lamb on Easter and it's likely that Jesus
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:02 PM
Mar 2013

also ate lamb at the Last Supper or the Passover meal he ate with followers. I don't know of anyone who eats ham, but maybe they do.

In my husband's family, ham is eaten for Christmas dinner and it's in the Irish tradition of his family. My family ate roast beef at Christmas and sometimes goose if someone wanted to take the trouble to cook it.

mainer

(12,017 posts)
20. I love how much I learn on DU
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:03 PM
Mar 2013

Never stopped to think about why ham is eaten at Easter. Lots of info to chew on here.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
23. As others have posted,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:35 PM
Mar 2013

there are different traditions from different cultures. In our family Thanksgiving always has both ham and turkey. Christmas dinner is usually either beef or ham and Easter is either ham or lamb. And of course, if turkey happens to be on sale, it can be a meal at anytime, including holidays.

demosincebirth

(12,529 posts)
31. Mexican dinner on Easter, at our house, was home made pork tamales, chicken and cheese enchiladas,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:05 PM
Mar 2013

Mexican rice and re fried beans. Makes me hungry just writing this down. Not a good meal if you're a diabetic.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. I love Mexican food,
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:22 AM
Mar 2013

to the point where I don't always prefer the food at Mexican restaurants. It seems themexican food I make at home is just as good or better, especially the refried beans. I have not yet made tamales. I bought some masa flour but have decided to buy fresh masa when I do decide to make them.

demosincebirth

(12,529 posts)
36. My mother used to make 'em from scratch. She had a Metate and ground her corn to make "la maza"
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:29 AM
Mar 2013

and whipped it by hand until it was aerated to her liking. Three to four hours to get it right. Now, like you said, you can buy it ready made for the pork and the husk to wrap them in. But oh, how she worked! Just so we could have a good Easter.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
38. My mother was a good cook
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:51 AM
Mar 2013

but she was of Swedish/German descent. Tamales were not in her repertoire. (Although she did make great burritos and egg rolls too, for that matter.)

Freddie

(9,256 posts)
25. I make ham on Christmas and Easter
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:20 PM
Mar 2013

I like it better than turkey and you don't have to make the $&%#%^ gravy and mashed potatoes.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. I was taught that it symbolizes our freedom from the Old Testament Laws. They were fulfilled by
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:30 PM
Mar 2013

Jesus. This especially is applied to the ceremonial laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
28. We just eat ham because we like it.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

Roast beef for Christmas. When I was a kid it was roast lamb but Mr. Shrike doesn't care for lamb much.

We are also making spanakopeta. We're not Greek, we just like it.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
32. The worshippers of the mother goddess Demeter
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:31 PM
Mar 2013

sacrificed pigs as part of the ritual. Pigs were seen as symbols of rebirth and fertility. Pork bones have been excavated in large numbers at Eleusius. Those who sought to destroy the mother goddess cults proclaimed the animals the goddess worshippers used in their rituals were unclean.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. I am going to my sister's house for Easter and we both hate ham.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 2013

Her husband is making a Prime Rib roast and Alaskan King crab legs. Yum! We usually have a pork tenderloin, but I am not complaining.

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