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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:19 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

So is my beloved Camillus camp knife now carry-on, measured from where?

Does the blade length go from the non-blade base part or only the blade? The sharp/blade part is 2 3/8" but the whole is 2 5/8" and the width is 5/8". Whoopi said these things were always allowable INSIDE the luggage, not on-person, correct?




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The illustrated Camillus Knife is the Camillus Camp Knife that features a 2 3/8" spear blade, can opener, punch and screwdriver/cap lifter made of stainless steel. The stainless steel handle of this Camillus knife, 3 3/4" closed, has U.S. embossing and a shackle.
Camillus Knives: Camillus Camp Knife, US Embossed, CM-1760

Knives Plus ® Home

This item is discontinued and out of stock - it is left for reference only.

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Reply So is my beloved Camillus camp knife now carry-on, measured from where? (Original post)
 UTUSN Mar 2013 OP
LineReply What are you talking about?
 Rex Mar 2013 #1
LineLineReply DUers know everything. I just wonder why those who don't find it necessary to reply. n/t
 UTUSN Mar 2013 #2
LineLineLineReply Carry on.
 Rex Mar 2013 #3
LineLineLineLineReply I shall (carry on). The wait will be productive for me, will apply some mineral oil
 UTUSN Mar 2013 #4
LineReply That's slightly over the limit, however
 MineralMan Mar 2013 #5
LineLineNew Reply I think mine would make it
 REP Mar 2013 #28
LineReply The most definitive measuring points would be hinge point to blade point
 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #6
LineLineReply You've got it. From the exposed part of the blade
 MineralMan Mar 2013 #12
LineReply Even if you measure just the sharpened
 rsdsharp Mar 2013 #7
LineLineReply Thanks, All: My faith in DU know-how remains undiminished!1 So these things were always
 UTUSN Mar 2013 #9
LineReply Here are the new rules:
 jsr Mar 2013 #8
LineLineReply Golf clubs (limit two).
 Rex Mar 2013 #10
LineLineLineReply Glad you waited. n/t
 UTUSN Mar 2013 #13
LineLineLineLineReply Then I guess you changed your mind then.
 Rex Mar 2013 #16
LineLineLineReply Seriously. I mean the aisle is only about 100' long, right?
 lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #15
LineLineLineLineReply Yeah wood is out of the question.
 Rex Mar 2013 #17
LineReply This reminds me of the time I had a 1" keychain Swiss Knife lost in the lining of my purse
 librechik Mar 2013 #11
LineReply Apparently my schrade sp2 is still verboten
 lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #14
LineLineNew Reply Plus that knife looks menacing
 Rex Mar 2013 #19
LineLineLineNew Reply The image (on my screen) is pretty much full size.
 lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #20
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Okay then I am even more scared-er
 Rex Mar 2013 #22
LineReply Play it safe and use the American Knife & Tool Institute's protocol
 slackmaster Mar 2013 #18
LineLineNew Reply Yip, that measuring field includes the "base"/non-sharp/hinge part. n/t
 UTUSN Mar 2013 #25
LineLineLineNew Reply It makes sense anatomically, in terms of the depth of the would it could theoretically create
 slackmaster Mar 2013 #26
LineNew Reply So now my little key chain Leatherman is legal on a plane but not the court house
 Jersey Devil Mar 2013 #21
LineLineNew Reply The courthouse has a 'Gerber only' rule.
 Rex Mar 2013 #23
LineNew Reply No way I would ever let my Camillus Boy Scout wood carving knife near an airport.
 bemildred Mar 2013 #24
LineNew Reply This shows the TSA and HS are doing a great job at making sure nothing gets passed them
 graham4anything Mar 2013 #27

Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:23 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

1. What are you talking about?

 

'Whoopi said...' as in Goldberg? Maybe you should contact TSA and ask them, who here would even begin to know that kind of information?

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:29 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

2. DUers know everything. I just wonder why those who don't find it necessary to reply. n/t

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:30 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

3. Carry on.

 

I shall await for an expert to chime in then!

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:35 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

4. I shall (carry on). The wait will be productive for me, will apply some mineral oil

to it after cleaning/"sanding" it with fine-grade/synthetic auto-body "sanding" material.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:46 PM

Star Member MineralMan (143,583 posts)

5. That's slightly over the limit, however

you measure it. My regular pocket knife is too. I'm ordering a smaller version, just for when I travel. Right now, I put my current knife in checked baggage, where it has always been allowed, but I'll start carrying a smaller version from now on.

Shrade Old Timer Stockman 850-T

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:07 PM

REP (21,691 posts)

28. I think mine would make it

It's slightly smaller than an Old Timer.


Buck Companion
(Mine is an older one, from when they were still made in the US)

Because I never know when I'll have defend myself against paper, string or a cuticle.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:47 PM

1-Old-Man (2,667 posts)

6. The most definitive measuring points would be hinge point to blade point

But if I had to guess I'd say it was from the hilt (extreme end of the handle in the absence of a fixed hilt) to the blade point.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:06 PM

Star Member MineralMan (143,583 posts)

12. You've got it. From the exposed part of the blade

at the handle to the tip. That's how the TSA photo shows it. That would include the unsharpened part of the blade near the handle after unfolding the blade.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:56 PM

rsdsharp (5,310 posts)

7. Even if you measure just the sharpened

portion of the blade, it's too big, two ways. The length can't exceed 2.36 inches. At 2 3/8 inches, your blade is 2.375 inches long. The width can't exceed .5 inches. At 5/8 of an inch, the width is .625 inches.

At that, it wouldn't surprise me if TSA intended to include the bolster in the blade length, or as someone else suggest, try to go all the way back to the hinge point.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:01 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

9. Thanks, All: My faith in DU know-how remains undiminished!1 So these things were always

allowed packed away in luggage.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:06 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

10. Golf clubs (limit two).

 

Good to know, I can now have my wedge and a puter! Need that wedge for when the ball gets lodged in an air condition vent.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:19 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

13. Glad you waited. n/t

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:22 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

16. Then I guess you changed your mind then.

 

nt.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:21 PM

lumberjack_jeff (33,224 posts)

15. Seriously. I mean the aisle is only about 100' long, right?

 

The wedge and putter should be plenty. No need to be a big hitter like the Lama.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:23 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

17. Yeah wood is out of the question.

 

Might shank it and put a hole in the fuselage. Then they would probably get all mad and stuff, probably take my clubs away from me.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:06 PM

Star Member librechik (30,233 posts)

11. This reminds me of the time I had a 1" keychain Swiss Knife lost in the lining of my purse

through a small rip. I had completely forgotten about both.

What a jolly time we had at the TSA security station trying to find it! So tiny it had to be terribly dangerous, right? So large they couldn't find it, even with an X-ray telling them where it was!

How I wish I had that knife back . I was going to give it to the ants in my backyard to play with.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:19 PM

lumberjack_jeff (33,224 posts)

14. Apparently my schrade sp2 is still verboten

 



The blade conforms with the max dimensions, but because it locks in place it is prohibited.

Only unsafe knives (e.g. non-locking) are allowed to be carried-on apparently.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:26 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

19. Plus that knife looks menacing

 

and I am intimidated already just over the Internets. What about toe nail clippers? Mine can cut through my thick ass big toenail and could, therefore, be used to cut through the titanium superstructure.


EDIT - Ain't talking about the cutter you use with your thumb...no sir, these are the ones that look like wire clippers!

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:28 PM

lumberjack_jeff (33,224 posts)

20. The image (on my screen) is pretty much full size.

 

But yeah. I like to look badass. It's an assault letter-opener.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:32 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

22. Okay then I am even more scared-er

 

cuz that means it is closer to being invisible, then Jim Bowie-sized. Got to watch those well-nigh-invisible knives. Yep, those are the ones.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:24 PM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

18. Play it safe and use the American Knife & Tool Institute's protocol

 



http://www.akti.org/resources/akti-protocol-for-measuring-knife-blade-length

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:41 PM

Star Member UTUSN (63,778 posts)

25. Yip, that measuring field includes the "base"/non-sharp/hinge part. n/t

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:42 PM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

26. It makes sense anatomically, in terms of the depth of the would it could theoretically create

 

The handle would act as a hilt and limit the depth of a stab wound.

ETA I used to carry a Buck model 110 lock-blade folder on airplanes, in my pocket. I'd put it in the tray along with my keys, loose change, etc. and it was always waved right through, until one day in 1987 when I was told at Little Rock, AR that I couldn't have it in my carry-on possessions. I managed to get it into my checked bag, and that was the end of that.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:29 PM

Jersey Devil (9,661 posts)

21. So now my little key chain Leatherman is legal on a plane but not the court house

Every time I go to the court house I have to remove it from my key chain, so ridiculous.

Once when I flew to Florida I had fingernail clippers in my bag and they made me toss them before getting on the plane. Like you could kill someone with nail clippers.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:35 PM

Rex (65,616 posts)

23. The courthouse has a 'Gerber only' rule.

 

nt.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:38 PM

bemildred (90,061 posts)

24. No way I would ever let my Camillus Boy Scout wood carving knife near an airport.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:59 PM

graham4anything (11,464 posts)

27. This shows the TSA and HS are doing a great job at making sure nothing gets passed them

 

and they of course mark when someone has one of the above items

Therefore there is a permanent record on file.

Thank God for security. Thank God for Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano and prior and soon again in 2016, Janet Reno.

I expect it impossible for another 9-11 on the airplanes.
Thank God and Barack Obama for that.

Now I can't wait til they make the streets free from bullets in short time.

Amazing that going to the supermarket now is more terrifying than Flying.
because someone might have a gun with bullets.

Guns can remain legal but not bullets.

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