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Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:09 AM

KRUGMAN: Centrist Pundits "Will Always Invent Some Reason Why Obama Just Isn't Doing It Right"

Today in Well, Duh

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So Klein admits that Republicans just donít want to make a deal. Their objections to the deals on the table arenít sincere; if convinced that Obama has met their demands, they just make more demands.

I think itís important here to understand the broader implications.

The whole push for a Grand Bargain has been based on the notion that we can reach a fiscal deal that takes the whole fight over the budget off the table. What Klein has belatedly learned is how unlikely such a Bargain really is; but the same logic tells us that any Grand Bargain that might somehow be struck, via Obamaís mystical ability to mind-meld Star Trek and Star Wars or something, wouldnít last. In a year ó or more likely in a minute or two ó Republicans would be back, demanding more tax cuts and more cuts in social programs. They just wonít take yes for an answer.

Meanwhile, itís not just Republicans who refuse to accept it when Obama gives them what they want; the same applies, with even less justification, to centrist pundits. As people like Greg Sargent point out time and again, the centrist ideal ó deficit reduction via a mix of revenue increases and benefits cuts ó is what Obama is already offering; in fact, his proposals have been to the right of Bowles-Simpson. Yet the centrist pundits keep demanding that Obama offer what he has already offered, and condemn both sides equally (or even place most of the blame on Obama) for the failure to reach a deal. Again, informing them of their error wouldnít help; their whole shtick is about blaming both sides, and they will always invent some reason why Obama just isnít doing it right.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/today-in-well-duh/

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Reply KRUGMAN: Centrist Pundits "Will Always Invent Some Reason Why Obama Just Isn't Doing It Right" (Original post)
kpete Mar 2013 OP
uponit7771 Mar 2013 #1
Joe Bacon Mar 2013 #20
freshwest Mar 2013 #22
Faygo Kid Mar 2013 #2
Jumpin Jack Fletch Mar 2013 #3
Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #11
zbdent Mar 2013 #4
upi402 Mar 2013 #5
duffyduff Mar 2013 #8
Martin Eden Mar 2013 #14
hobbit709 Mar 2013 #15
upi402 Mar 2013 #24
Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #6
mac56 Mar 2013 #9
CJCRANE Mar 2013 #7
Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #10
freshwest Mar 2013 #23
on point Mar 2013 #12
Yavin4 Mar 2013 #13
hobbit709 Mar 2013 #16
Nupe117 Mar 2013 #17
JackHughes Mar 2013 #18
BumRushDaShow Mar 2013 #19
indepat Mar 2013 #21

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:13 AM

1. Most of the MSM is trying to remain neutral for the sake of ratings, dems SHOULD be fighting back ..

...against the meme

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:20 PM

20. They're NOT "neutral"

The overwhelming majority of our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press recites Republican talking points.

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Response to Joe Bacon (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:22 PM

22. Blatantly so, parroting Romney & Ryan's lies last year. They lost neutrality years ago.

'The fiddler plays the tune he's paid for.'

Never more apparent what conservative billionaire ownership of media is doing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:14 AM

2. Krugman gets it right again

When will this nation learn that the Republicans are not interested in governing, only power and their handlers, like Sheldon Adelman?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:18 AM

3. The False Equivalency Train

 

Powered not by coal, but excrement.

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Response to Jumpin Jack Fletch (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:14 PM

11. The internet idiom steamship.

 

Running strictly on vapor and no substance.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:19 AM

4. If the "liberally-biased media" truly were "liberally-biased", you would have the media

playing the clip of Boner right after he agreed with Obama, saying that he's happy, that "we've got 98% of what we wanted" ... before he went back to his true masters and they said "WE WANT 200% OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR!"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:22 AM

5. centrist = Goldwater Republican

We've moved so far to the right after decades of media propaganda... and barely noticed it happening.

Goldwater used to be an extreme rightwinger.
Now Obama IS about where Goldwater WAS.

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Response to upi402 (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:18 PM

8. They aren't centrists at all. They are neoliberals, which means they are far right

 

by any logical standard.

Obama is further to the right than Goldwater.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:27 PM

14. The GOP BASE firmly believes Obama is Extreme Left

And it is that BASE that drives Republican primaries and therefore the party.

And that BASE is, of course, driven by the likes of Koch & Adelson and the Rightwing noise machine.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:30 PM

15. That's because to them, anyone to the left of Temujin is a socialist.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:55 PM

24. I agree with you

Need to be careful slingin' truth around here about Obama though.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:32 AM

6. The centrists can not admit that one Party is to blame, because the whole centrist thing is

 

that both Parties are to blame. So they keep claiming Obama is equally to blame along with the GOP House. They have to do that, because they are just Republicans who are not comfortable being out of the GOP closet.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:00 PM

9. this

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 12:16 PM

7. Ain't that the truth! nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:13 PM

10. Good call, Krugman. It applies to pundits on the left, as well.

 

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 07:23 PM

23. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:14 PM

12. So start offering what the people want and not what pols want

Cut the defense dept by 50%
Raise taxes on the wealthy until they pay down the debt they ran up with prior tax cuts
Simplify tax code by treating all income the same, regardless of source
Raise the cap to fix social security issue
Implement single payer and pharma reform to reduce medical costs

No none nada nyet rien cuts to earned benefits

The supply side economic fraud, the deregulation fraud and the Iraq fraud are responsible for our debt. All put forward by the rebukes. Make the1% that benefited from these frauds pay down the debt. Stick em until squeal and then push harder.

The rest of us had it being scammed and then being asked to pay for their disasters

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:23 PM

13. It's Journalistic Laziness. Easier to blame both sides than to actually dig into the proposals.

Journalists like Ezra Klein are a rare breed. They actually look into the data and evaluate what is really being proposed. Most inside the Beltway pundits just regurgitate quotes from their sources and write that "both sides are to blame".

It's laziness, pure and simple.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:31 PM

16. There are "centrist" pundits? Coulda fooled me.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:49 PM

17. Up is down Round is Square and Out is In

No matter what PBO does, MSM punditry will pose it as a false equivalency or as Krugman suggest PBO just isn't doing enough. The meme that PBO needs to interact with more with Boehner + McConnell is a good example. Both are tied at the hip with reactionary teabillies + have zero interest in compromise, no matter what position PBO takes. Hell, they're even scared to be caught in public with the President of the United States. Damn!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:03 PM

18. "Centrist" pundits

Since the Republican Party represents the interests of the plutocracy, the corporate news media must always feign amnesia, twist itself into logical contortions and lie by omission to conform with Republican propaganda.

Their paychecks depend on it. Does anyone really expect "honesty" or "courage" or "patriotism" from those self-interested media hacks?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:18 PM

19. Tweety is one of the biggest examples of what Krugman describes. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:22 PM

21. "...in fact, his proposals have been to the right Bowles-Simpson." So the President appoints the

considerably right-of-center Bowles and Simpson who propose a considerably right-of-center tax scheme and the President's proposals have to the right of Bowles-Simpson. Add the President's continuance of junior's wars and a goodly bit of junior's other policies and personnel, yet Republicans hate the President with a vitriol far out of reason considering his reach-across-the-aisle right-of-center governance. So what's the big problem Republicans?

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