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Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:53 PM

EPIC FOIA - US Drones Intercept Electronic Communications and Identify Human Targets

EPIC FOIA - US Drones Intercept Electronic Communications and Identify Human Targets
New records obtained by EPIC under the Freedom of Information Act indicate that the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection is operating drones in the United States capable of intercepting electronic communications. The records also suggest that the ten Predator B drones operated by the agency have the capacity to recognize and identify a person on the ground. Approximately, 2/3 of the US population is subject to surveillance by the CBP drones. The documents were provided in response to a request from EPIC for information about the Bureau's use of drones across the country. The agency has made the Predator drones available to other federal, state, and local agencies. The records obtained by EPIC raise questions abut the agency's compliance with federal privacy laws and the scope of domestic surveillance. For more information, see EPIC: Domestic Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) and Drones.


http://epic.org/2013/02/epic-foia---us-drones-intercep.html

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Reply EPIC FOIA - US Drones Intercept Electronic Communications and Identify Human Targets (Original post)
kpete Mar 2013 OP
bigbrother05 Mar 2013 #1
DeadEyeDyck Mar 2013 #2
Bonobo Mar 2013 #3
Wilms Mar 2013 #4
TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #5
Wilms Mar 2013 #15
TroglodyteScholar Mar 2013 #19
Bonobo Mar 2013 #7
Wilms Mar 2013 #16
Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #6
DearHeart Mar 2013 #8
Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #9
DearHeart Mar 2013 #10
Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #11
DearHeart Mar 2013 #12
Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #13
DearHeart Mar 2013 #14
HiPointDem Mar 2013 #20
JDPriestly Mar 2013 #17
WinkyDink Mar 2013 #18

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:16 PM

1. Important - k&r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:58 PM

2. This is scary.

It is one of those things that start out small but in 5 years, we could be looking up and seeing a sky full of drones and asking ourselves, "when did this happen"?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:06 PM

3. I trust the President.

And since Obama will be president forever, or at least Democrats (as long as we don't vote for those Naderites who would do ANYTHING to get Republicans in office) then there is nothing to worry about.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:52 PM

4. That's how I see it.

 


Plus I'm not an enemy combatant (at least that I'm aware of). So I don't get what the fuss is about.

Of course, I don't have a cell phone.

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Response to Wilms (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:55 PM

5. "Plus I'm not an enemy combatant"

Possibly the most short-sighted statement I've ever seen on DU. (outside of congresscritter quotes, anyway)

When you are an enemy combatant, I trust you'll still be just fine with all of this, right?

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Response to TroglodyteScholar (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:09 PM

15. My bad. I was to use the sarcasm thingy.

 




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Response to Wilms (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:15 AM

19. Ahahah you got me...

Normally I don't require the visual cue!

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Response to Wilms (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:51 AM

7. That's terrific, but I was being sarcastic.

Sarcastic as hell. But thanks for the chill up my spine.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 01:10 PM

16. I figured you were being sarcastic.

 


I was too.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:06 PM

6. I was not asked to vote on this. Were you? Was any US citizen?

 

Whose country is this? Who said they could go ahead and smash the 4th Amendment? How do we get it back?

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:23 AM

8. No one was asked, but there are so many people around who seem to be "OK" with this

makes me want to puke! "As long as you're not doing anything wrong," they say. Anyone who says that is a major part of the problem with out system!

I truly wish I knew how to change things, cuz voting doesn't seem to work anymore.

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Response to DearHeart (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:34 AM

9. Yep, they're just doing what they want and we don't have a say. It strangely reminds of Rove's

 

words:

Karl Rove to Suskind:

"Guys like you are in--what we call--'the reality-based community'. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:53 AM

10. If you listen closely enough, they'll always tell you what they're planning.

Unfortunately, most people aren't listening. The ones who are listening and are trying to call attention to the problems, are marginalized, belittled, classified as nutjobs, or end up losing their reputations, and quite possibly losing their freedom. Wonder how soon we'll be having "political prisoners" ending up in Gitmo? I know that sounds extreme, but only a few years ago, I would never have thought this country would look like it does today!

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Response to DearHeart (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:08 AM

11. :) It would be interesting to search GD to see how long ago I began using the word "austerity"

 

because it feels as though I've been screaming about it for literally years.

There are already political prisoners taken from Occupy in Seattle, Cleveland, and Chicago. The FBI are now directly attacking the movement.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:11 AM

12. Are they actually holding these people from Occupy??

I know about the police/FBI, whoever, attacking those brave people, but didn't know that they're holding people! God, every day there is something else that makes me sick to my stomach! I'm beginning to feel that my country is dead.

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Response to DearHeart (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:20 AM

13. Here:

 

Free the Cleveland Four:

http://cleveland4solidarity.org/


Seattle:

Judge admits detainment used to 'coerce' Grand Jury Resisters, grants release

http://www.examiner.com/article/judge-admits-detainment-used-to-coerce-grand-jury-resisters-grants-release


Chicago:

"NATO 5" Prisoner Reportedly Beaten By Guards

http://chicagoist.com/2012/08/28/nato_5_prisoner_reportedly_beaten_b.php

(The last article is older; I am unaware of the current status of the NATO 5.)

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #13)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:29 AM

14. OMG. Thanks for these links!

I have to read these later today; can't handle this right now.


Have a nice day today!

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Response to DearHeart (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 03:48 AM

20. i want to slap people who say that to me. 'good germans' indeed.

 





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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:04 PM

17. History could easily repeat itself. Remember the Holocaust in Germany?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022450849

Where were the "good Germans."

They were in oblivitopia -- not paying attention -- in a stupor -- trusting.

The "good Germans" were pleased because, after a serious inflation and in the midst of a failing economy, Hitler created jobs. That is what I heard from "good" and "bad" Germans first-hand.

Drones are a huge threat. We have to act against their proliferation in our communities.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:15 PM

18. We have no privacy. It's over, and way too late to scrap the technology and power it gives.

 

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