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Is the Google "privacy policy" the most intrusive policy EVER concocted by corporate authoritarians? (Original Post) Faryn Balyncd Jan 2012 OP
doesn't seem to much privacy in that data strip mining for sale policy nt msongs Jan 2012 #1
Nah-- par for the course. At least they're telling you about it... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #2
Firefox + adblock + trackblock = truly anonymous surfing Initech Jan 2012 #3
Yeah, right... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #6
Odd, I don't find any index.dat on my system... TroglodyteScholar Jan 2012 #8
I always figure customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #4
Heh! I assume everyone from marketers to the Mossad can see... TreasonousBastard Jan 2012 #7
Income tax filings used to be considered to be very private. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #5
Simply don't use google without using a VPN / anonymizer AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #9
How good is hidemy jsmirman Jan 2012 #10
"Ripe for picking by nosy government", I think it said. sfpcjock Jan 2012 #11

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Nah-- par for the course. At least they're telling you about it...
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jan 2012

Amazon, Facebook, Yahoo, even MySpace, the phone company... You'd be amazed at how much they know about you.

All your searches, your GMail, every thing you do with Google has been tracked and analyzed for years-- it's how they make their money.

The big deal now is that if one part of Google gets a subpoena, all of Google gets a subpoena, and your info could be seen by all sorts of prying eyes.



TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. Yeah, right...
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jan 2012

AFIK, most sites ignore "No Tracking," Opera doesn't even bother to include the option. Besides, do you know what's in that index.dat file you can't get rid of?

Do you clear ALL your cookies every time you log off? Even the hidden ones?

BTW, did you forget you signed up with some site Google owned, or now owns? It still sees you.

More to the point is if you have a Facebook or Google+ account, or, worse yet, Gmail, you put all that stuff up there yourself.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
8. Odd, I don't find any index.dat on my system...
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:05 AM
Jan 2012

Guess people should probably take that issue up with Microsoft and their shitty practices.

Seriously, though, I do like having the ability to misrepresent myself online to people who want to exploit my information. I have the obligatory Gmail account with my real info because it's required for my Droid 2, but I don't use it. I do use my Droid, though, and I know some kind of profile inevitably emerges from that usage. I guess the key is doing your best to control what that profile really looks like.

For routine web searches I'd recommend Scroogle SSL search for Firefox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scroogle-ssl-search/)...it returns Google's results, but it's secure and they delete search logs within like 24 hours. And you don't have to touch Google's site at all to use it.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. I always figure
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jan 2012

I'm never getting anything for "free". Every Internet site I go to that is not explicitly paid for in a transparent way (and maybe a few that are) I expect is going to try to use my time there to sell data on me.

Of course, my ultimate defense is to be oblivious to the crap that people want to sell me on the Internet without my seeking it out first.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. Heh! I assume everyone from marketers to the Mossad can see...
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 12:52 AM
Jan 2012

what I'm up to unless I'm on a super-secure connection. And even then...

I do use Hotspot Shield if my laptop is on an open Wifi connection, just because that's so freaky.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Income tax filings used to be considered to be very private.
Mon Jan 30, 2012, 11:58 PM
Jan 2012

Bank statements are also private.

What if someone uses Google to find the site to file their income tax forms? Will Google have that information?

What if someone receives bank statements via e-mail? Will Google also have that information? What if some Google employee steals the personal information of a Google user? Will Google be held liable for any damages?

Further, seems to me no lawyer should use a Google e-mail account for attorney-client privileged communications. A lawyer who did could get in trouble for breaching the confidentiality of the lawyer/client relationship, it would seem to me. In the real world, Google's policies may not work out as they think they will.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
9. Simply don't use google without using a VPN / anonymizer
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:19 AM
Jan 2012

Learn to use something like hidemyass.com with google to do your searches so Google will not collect any further information on you. You are not required to sign in to use google's search engine or youtube.

We should not be allowing them to abuse us, corporations will be corporations. VPN's can be easy to use and it assures that the government doesn't get further information on you as well.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
10. How good is hidemy
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 06:50 AM
Jan 2012

ass.com?

I went to the site and I am very intrigued.

Sounds like just the sort of thing a not that tech savvy person can use who wants to be left the fuck alone.

I'm running trackmenot on my firefox and ghostery on my chrome, but want I really want is IP cloaking.

Can you give a layman's breakdown of your feelings about hidemyass.com and what one can expect from it?

I'm more than down with paying for the VPN Pro they offer, if it hides my surfing and even allows me to interact with a website I'm building without having my IP out there for the world to see.

That "Good luck, I'm hiding behind seven proxies" sounds so appealing, but I'm just not tech savvy. Can this get me closer to that sort of situation?

And advice/information would be greatly appreciated.

sfpcjock

(1,936 posts)
11. "Ripe for picking by nosy government", I think it said.
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jan 2012

You're going to have to schiz over to Yahoo to do some of those searches and not use Gmail when you don't want to be quoted by strangers. I can't believe there is no opt out! Maybe just stay at Yahoo when you get there

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