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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:48 AM

 

NRA Caught Handing Out Newsletter Calling For TREASON And VIOLENT Revolution




The Wisconsin branch of the National Rifle Association sure did make a mess of things this past weekend. Not only was their lobbyist caught on tape bragging about how he controls the legislature, but the NRA was handing out copies of The Reality News, an extremist right-wing publication. But not only is it an extremist right-wing publication, it’s an extremist right-wing publication calling for armed revolt to topple the government. Within the publication was a piece by Karl Koenigs titled, “What Would Davy Crockett Say?” In the article, he makes a call for armed revolt, to topple the democratically elected government of the United States, following with the imposition of a dictatorship, where he, and those who believe as he does, are the dictators.


A direct quote from the article:


"..ELECTIONS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION TO OUR PROBLEM; ELECTIONS ARE THE PROBLEM!.."


Further in, to resolve the issues he sees with the system, his proposal offers this:

This is a most heinous disease that can only be cured by the constitutional De-Centralized power of our home country of Wisconsin restoring our “supreme Laws” on our Federal public servants within our borders; OR otherwise by a combo Civil/Re-Revolutionary War with the very same goal to restore the rule of OUR Laws on our elected non-elected and wannabe elected Republican and Democrat Federal servants through the refreshment of the Tree of Liberty by its natural manure.




You can read the article for yourself, but the site requires you sign in first. If you’re interested, click here:




Basic research turns up that Mr. Koenigs is a member of the Constitutional Sheriffs, and part of the Oath Keepers, a group labelled as domestic terrorists. Further research pulled up more of Mr. Koenigs’ thoughts, including a nicely framed write-up on how to solve the problems in the United States. Read it for yourself (sic on all below):


What YOU and a bunch of Patriots like you need to do is form a coalition to:


1/ Form a base “Committee on State Sovereignty” (which is, at this point anyway and likely hopefully never, for secession).

2/ Create a framework of communication “nodes” and a communications HQ which will be the Chairperson of the Committee.

3/ There shall be a “node” in each State Senate and Assembly voting district in the State.

4/ Each “node” leader shall procure 20 – 25+ callers who stand at ready to make calls to their State Senator and Assemblyman upon a signal from HQ to make very well timed and coordinated requests to sponsor and pass initiatives starting with the State Sovereignty Resolution.

5/ Produce a very constitutionally crafted State Sovereignty Resolution with Arrest Provision. The Arrest Provision makes it “binding”, in every sense of the term and more than just “feel good” words that are more shallow than a politicians promise.


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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/13/nra-caught-handing-out-newsletter-calling-for-treason-and-violent-revolution/

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Reply NRA Caught Handing Out Newsletter Calling For TREASON And VIOLENT Revolution (Original post)
Segami Feb 2013 OP
libtodeath Feb 2013 #1
Aristus Feb 2013 #6
onehandle Feb 2013 #2
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #5
get the red out Feb 2013 #3
redstatebluegirl Feb 2013 #4
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #7
duhneece Feb 2013 #8
rustydog Feb 2013 #9
zeemike Feb 2013 #17
Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #10
eShirl Feb 2013 #11
Scuba Feb 2013 #12
Segami Feb 2013 #13
frylock Feb 2013 #14
Historic NY Feb 2013 #15
Segami Feb 2013 #16
Curmudgeoness Feb 2013 #18
ck4829 Feb 2013 #19
onenote Feb 2013 #20

Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:50 AM

1. He should be arrested on the spot.

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:55 AM

6. Just for the bad writing. That's a crime.

But for everything else, too...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:50 AM

2. NRA sponsored gun shows are full of this material. That's why McVeigh virtually lived at them.

He admitted that gun shows were where he found the most sympathy for his way of thinking.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:54 AM

5. Most of them can't wait for their chance to gun down multiple people...

 

And not worry about SWAT teams bringing an end to their life in their pathetic little doomsday bunkers.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:52 AM

3. So when did Treason become ok?

Oh, yea, when it was a Democratic President in the White House. That makes treason and acceptable form of blowing off a little steam when your trigger finger is sore from the firing range.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:53 AM

4. Where does free speech stop and treason begin?

They are calling for the violent overthrow of the government, treason a federal crime with i believe the death penalty attached. I am confused as to how these groups get away with this...

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:00 PM

7. 18 USC Sec. 2385

 

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or
teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of
overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or
the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession
thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by
force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any
such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any
such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates,
sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed
matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity,
desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any
government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts
to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society,
group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the
overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or
violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any
such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes
thereof -

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by
the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five
years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in
this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for
employment by the United States or any department or agency
thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize",
with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include
the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the
regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units
of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t17t20+1134+1++%28overthrow%29

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:01 PM

8. That's what I keep asking nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:07 PM

9. Anyone else notice the NRA, Nugents, Bachmannnnnns of the world

are great about screaming about 2nd amendment remedies, but only have the balls to try to instigate instead of lead?
If they truly believed this drivel, why aren't they willing to die to protect their America?

We already know Nugent's response to armed conflict is to pee and poop his pants and stop brushing his teeth.
Rubio? Bachmann? Boehner? Pailin? Cantor? McConnell? Rushbo? Comb-over Trumpster? Slant-head Hannity? Beckkkk?

Jesus, I've run into drug addicts, thieves, rapists with stronger convictions(no pun intended) and values than these guys, yet voters listen to the GOPhers!

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Response to rustydog (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:22 PM

17. Yep I have noticed it too.

And they know what they are doing...they have no intention of risking anything they have or going to jail...what they want is for their nut jobs to start something to terrorize people into submitting to them...they believe that liberals and progressives are basically scared to death of guns and violence and will roll over on their belly to submit if they wave their guns around.

They are basically bullies and cowards, and our biggest problem is we are not calling them on this...not arresting them and charging them with treason...which they certainly commit...
Our justice system seems afraid of them...
And clearly they are when Ted made a statement that was clearly a threat on the president's life they just talked to him...and invite him to the SOTU speech to slap us right in the face with.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:09 PM

10. Meanwhile anarchists are rotting in jail in Washington state ...

... for refusing to answer questions to a grand jury (some of the questions, they don't know the answer to).

Fucking un-fucking-believable.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:29 PM

11. Treasonous bastards letting their true colors show.

kick

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:38 PM

12. Wisconsin, Open For Nutjobs

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:06 PM

13. Something is definitely swimming in their drinking water

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:38 PM

14. this guy knows from natural manure to be sure

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:58 PM

15. What would Davy Crockett say? Not much...

he's dead. He ran away to Texas after losing an election for a second term in congress. He then went to Texas to overthrow the government of Mexico and was killed for his efforts.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:00 PM

16. LOL!

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:37 PM

18. Is anyone really surprised by this?

The rhetoric from the NRA has been increasingly hostile for years. There isn't much further they could go without calling for armed revolution. Natural progression, if you ask me.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:38 PM

19. I like how the Tea Party nuts always get the 'tree of liberty' thing wrong

Jefferson said the tree would be watered with more than just tyrants... or in this case fertilized with 'manure'.

You'd think they'd at least get one thing from the era they are trying to emulate right, but no, they don't.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:59 PM

20. Maybe my memories extend back farther than some posting here

I have no use for the NRA or for right wing militia groups. But I am old enough to remember when I marched against the War in Vietnam waving banners calling for a "revolution" and there were those that thought we should be charged with treason or punished for sedition under the Smith Act for doing so. I also remember the stories my father told me about the trials brought against member of the Communist Part of the United States under the Smith Act in the 1940s and 1950s and how his past membership in the Lawyers Guild, an organization that defended the CPUSA members cost him a government job. And I remember how the Smith Act -- the law that some here claim should be used to prosecute the NRA and the right wing nut jobs -- was enacted as a tool to be used against labor activists and "socialists."

So, while I have no use for the NRA or the right wing militia groups, I also have no use for the Smith Act and believe that there is far more to fear from a resurrection of that law than there is from a bunch of blow hard militia "revolutionary" wannabes.

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