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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBless you.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/blessverb (used with object), blessed or blest, bless·ing.
1. to consecrate or sanctify by a religious rite; make or pronounce holy.
2. to request of God the bestowal of divine favor on: Bless this house.
3. to bestow good of any kind upon: a nation blessed with peace.
4. to extol as holy; glorify: Bless the name of the Lord.
5. to protect or guard from evil (usually used interjectionally): Bless you! Bless your innocent little heart!
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World English Dictionary
bless (blɛs)
vb , blesses , blessing , blessed , blest
1. to consecrate or render holy, beneficial, or prosperous by means of a religious rite
2. to give honour or glory to (a person or thing) as divine or holy
3. to call upon God to protect; give a benediction to
4. to worship or adore (God); call or hold holy
5. ( often passive ) to grant happiness, health, or prosperity to: they were blessed with perfect peace
6. ( usually passive ) to endow with a talent, beauty, etc: she was blessed with an even temper
7. rare to protect against evil or harm
8. ( interjection ) bless! an exclamation of well-wishing
9. ( interjection ) bless you!
a. a traditional phrase said to a person who has just sneezed
b. an exclamation of well-wishing or surprise
10. ( interjection ) bless me! , bless my soul! , God bless my soul! an exclamation of surprise
11. not have a penny to bless oneself with to be desperately poor
If you were a Trekkie, the phrase "bless you" would be "Live long and prosper."
You don't have to believe in God, religion or Star Trek to know the person sending you this message is wishing you well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)the grocery clerk (yes this is ALL about one thread )ment? I mean, I can 'cherry pick' too.
Bless you - usually short for 'GOD bless you'.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)I imagine the setting could/would have some influence on the person's meaning.
Rex
(65,616 posts)This whole issue and all the threads after the original would not exist if the cashier would have said, 'have a nice day' or some other generic farewell phrase. Words do mean something, especially in public and at work. I am NOT complaining here and for the record would have said, "you too" and walked out the door. Just that when at work, it is important to watch what you say to customers. She could get fired over something as trivial. She shouldn't IMO, but it is a risk she takes.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)...in the Lounge and you'll know why I'm not even going to look someone in the eye anymore.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I have a few relatives in the hotel industry and the things they tell me makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)and I am writing a book. My store is like a cross between "Cheers" and a psychiatrist's office on any given afternoon.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Or a fly on the wall, I bet you have some great stories to tell.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)I'd welcome it because you do not wear religion on your sleeves. I know the difference between proselytizers and people expressing good wishes.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)I'm not forced to believe as they do whether they're religious or not, if they wish to bless me or God bless me, I take it as a positive thought from them directed toward me.
I either thank them or just return the blessing depending on the situation.
malaise
(268,885 posts)I don't allow zealots to impose their lunacy on me.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)no one can impose their lunacy on you by wishing you well.
Peace to you, malaise and thanks for posting.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Imagine the state of the world if everyone were to become offended by people from other cultures offering us well wishes using their own beliefs or culture to do so? I take it as a compliment when a Muslim friend asks for Allah's blessings for me.
Kellerfeller
(397 posts)some people must get when someone tells them Goodbye?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=good-bye&searchmode=none
"from godbwye (1570s), itself a contraction of God be with ye (late 14c.)"
Libertas1776
(2,888 posts)To quote George Carlin...
[link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MeSSwKffj9o#t=589s|
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Thanks for the link, Libertas.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)surfdog
(624 posts)What's wrong with telling somebody may Satan bless you ?
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)believed such a message was well wishing them.
However if you do it out of spite or as insult, that's a different matter, intent or meaning is everything.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Why should there be?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)not aware of. To me, to wish someone blessings from Satan has a negative context whereas 'Bless you' means to me and always has, that someone is wishing me well.
Do you have a definition of 'Satan bless you'?
Buns_of_Fire
(17,173 posts)I know it's a conveyance of good wishes, whoever it comes from. Life's too short to constantly carry around a chip on one's shoulder about it all. "Bless you," "Blessed be", "Allah Akbar," "Go Forth and Prosper," "Eat Mo' Possum"... it's all the same to me. I can't understand why people feel any need to get into a fight over it.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)You, too.
I am agnostic. I always take "bless you" in the non-religious sense. To me, it's just another way of saying "best wishes".
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)1. What the speaker intends to say.
2. The actual message sent by the speaker.
3. What the listener actually heard.
4. How the listener interpreted the message.
It's easy for any one of those levels to breakdown into miscommunication so I prefer to err on the positive side of caution, giving the speaker the benefit of doubt until proven otherwise.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)How dare you bless me? Don't you know I'm an atheist? I don't need your fracking blessings!
It's amazing what things people can get offended about, isn't it? If someone says something to me with bless* in it, I assume they're wishing me well. Good wishes are always welcome, as far as I'm concerned, and everyone has a different way of expressing good wishes. I'll accept any such wishes, with thanks.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)but frankly it's getting silly now. I agree with Shakespeare regarding words:
A rose by an other name would smell as sweet
And from a glossary on Shakespeare's use of words:
http://www.shakespeareswords.com/Glossary.aspx?let=b
bless (v.) 1 guard, protect, safeguard
bless (v.) 2 wound, hurt, beat; also: consecrate
blessed (adv.) blessedly, happily
blessed, blest (adj.) 1 lucky, fortunate, happy
blessed, blest (adj.) 2 happy, glad, joyful
blessed, blest (adj.) 3 capable of blessing, full of happiness
blessed, blest (adj.) 4 curative, therapeutic, endowed with healing properties
blessedly (adv.) luckily, fortunately, happily
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Peace to you,
Festivito
(13,452 posts)I think this poster needs to apologize. I doubt that I'll get a response.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Must feel great to slam a poor, middle-aged woman who wishes you well and then go post about it on the internet. And we wonder why there is so little compassion and kindness in this country.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)they might do well to remember Matthew 6:5
New International Version (©1984)
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."
By the way- i'm glad that people who randomly say "Have A Blessed Day" or "God Bless You" are happy and enthusiastic about "spreading" their happiness. But they should realize they come off as, at best, superior or pompous or, at worst a baiting troll looking to get into an argument about something so very personal and divine as ones relationship with God.
PLEASE NOTE: I am using the word "they" as this is not a personal attack on you, Uncle Joe.
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great white snark
(2,646 posts)Thanks for the kind wishes.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)assume that we share your so-called "God". It's going to take me the rest of the day to recover from this OUTRAGE.
taterguy
(29,582 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Peace to you all.
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)used as sarcasm or polite ridicule and as an expression of sincere sympathy.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bless+your+heart
bless your heart 292 up, 99 down
1: phrase used by Southern women to excuse themselves for speaking ill of someone else.
2: an expression of sympathy or pity.
3: a polite way to respond to an ignoramus, particularly male, who showers upon you flattering but unwanted compliments.
1: "She's as ugly as a mud-fence, bless her heart."
2: "Well, bless your heart, that must have been terrible!"
3: drunk fella: "I think you're beautiful! Even if you were ugly, I'd STILL think you were beautiful!"
recipient: "...bless your heart."
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Many of my customers have said this to me after hearing my political views.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)the grieving relatives of the departed, as an aside she had nine children.
Going to her house for dinner was an adventure.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)After being "blessed," one could say, "Do you know Jesus? He's a liberal Jew!"
The "outrage" on this issue baffles me.
Edweird
(8,570 posts)I don't take offense to it - and I'm a confirmed Atheist.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I do not know from which school of theology you get your priestly power to bless things, and so do not know the proper response.
Can you bless my apartment as well? I heard one has to pay for that privilege, at least in some cultures and some faiths, but I wouldn't want any demons lurking about so perhaps a home blessing is more a need of mine than a want.
Demons clutter up the place and leave invisible poop all over!!!
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)*Light first.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Tho the neighbors dooo seem to find it odd...
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)they're religious or not, or whether you believe that they believe in magical powers or not, the primary and overriding message is of good will directed toward you from them.
That was the point of listing the various definitions all of which connotate "good will" whether by religious or secular means.
To answer your question as to the appropriate response, it depends on you, if you're religious or not you can bless them back,
If you're totally against religion, just say thanks because they were wishing you well, it's just courtesy it doesn't mean A. that you accept their religious point of view and/or B. that they even said it from a religious point of view.
There are plenty of good reasons to be upset with the state of the world, but a greeting of good will shouldn't be one of them.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)to bestow good of any kind upon: to grant happiness, health, or prosperity to: they were blessed with perfect peace
6. ( usually passive ) to endow with a talent, beauty, etc: she was blessed with an even temper
7. rare to protect against evil or harm
an exclamation of well-wishing
I use the word bless, blessings, and blessed in the context of the definitions posted above all the time.
"You don't have to believe in God, religion or Star Trek to know the person sending you this message is wishing you well."
Backatcha!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)by virtually all strangers upon whom it's bestowed.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)And the phrase is "Have a blessed day".
Not "bless you".
Or just "bless".
Here's a particularly funny rant and the resulting comments are hilarious:
http://thesecularity.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=468
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"What non-religious people need to do is come up with a similiar saying they can put on their answering machines and the like. Maybe - "I'm not in right now, leave a message and there is no God""
Possible responses to "blessed day" :
"Think for yourself."
"Get some stinky, buddy."
"And a multi-orgasmic day to you, too."
""Thank you. Did you remember to put all my (expletive) in the bag this time?""
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)Sounds bossy and wth is the alternative to having a blessed day anyway? Having a cursed day?
"I hopeyou have a blessed day"doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as
the other phrase, though.
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)have a bad day or bad night.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)it can be religious or secular.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)If you were a Trekkie Vulcan, the phrase "bless you" would be "Live long and prosper."
Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)too generic the Klingons would never say that.