Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:14 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
14 Propaganda Techniques Fox “News” Uses to Brainwash AmericansThe good news is that the more conscious you are of these techniques, the less likely they are to work on you. The bad news is that those reading this article are probably the least in need in of it.
1. Panic Mongering. This goes one step beyond simple fear mongering. With panic mongering, there is never a break from the fear. The idea is to terrify and terrorize the audience during every waking moment. From Muslims to swine flu to recession to homosexuals to immigrants to the rapture itself, the belief over at Fox seems to be that if your fight-or-flight reflexes aren’t activated, you aren’t alive. This of course raises the question: why terrorize your own audience? Because it is the fastest way to bypasses the rational brain. In other words, when people are afraid, they don’t think rationally. And when they can’t think rationally, they’ll believe anything. 2. Character Assassination/Ad Hominem. Fox does not like to waste time debating the idea. Instead, they prefer a quicker route to dispensing with their opponents: go after the person’s credibility, motives, intelligence, character, or, if necessary, sanity. No category of character assassination is off the table and no offense is beneath them. Fox and like-minded media figures also use ad hominem attacks not just against individuals, but entire categories of people in an effort to discredit the ideas of every person who is seen to fall into that category, e.g. “liberals,” “hippies,” “progressives” etc. This form of argument – if it can be called that – leaves no room for genuine debate over ideas, so by definition, it is undemocratic. Not to mention just plain crass. 3. Projection/Flipping. This one is frustrating for the viewer who is trying to actually follow the argument. It involves taking whatever underhanded tactic you’re using and then accusing your opponent of doing it to you first. We see this frequently in the immigration discussion, where anti-racists are accused of racism, or in the climate change debate, where those who argue for human causes of the phenomenon are accused of not having science or facts on their side. It’s often called upon when the media host finds themselves on the ropes in the debate. 4. Rewriting History. This is another way of saying that propagandists make the facts fit their worldview. The Downing Street Memos on the Iraq war were a classic example of this on a massive scale, but it happens daily and over smaller issues as well. A recent case in point is Palin’s mangling of the Paul Revere ride, which Fox reporters have bent over backward to validate. Why lie about the historical facts, even when they can be demonstrated to be false? Well, because dogmatic minds actually find it easier to reject reality than to update their viewpoints. They will literally rewrite history if it serves their interests. And they’ll often speak with such authority that the casual viewer will be tempted to question what they knew as fact. MORE... http://churchandstate.org.uk/2011/07/14-propaganda-techniques-fox-news-uses-to-brainwash-americans/
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| ProfessionalLeftist | Feb 2013 | OP | |
| ck4829 | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
| s-cubed | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
| ProfessionalLeftist | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
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| LiberalLovinLug | Feb 2013 | #49 | |
| The Straight Story | Feb 2013 | #8 | |
| RKP5637 | Feb 2013 | #26 | |
| Jamaal510 | Feb 2013 | #73 | |
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| Mnpaul | Feb 2013 | #74 | |
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| ProfessionalLeftist | Feb 2013 | #13 | |
| EC | Feb 2013 | #20 | |
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:17 AM
ck4829 (30,291 posts)
1. Another one that they use are 'axis tricks'
Response to ck4829 (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:43 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
2. Wow.
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That's some blatant chart maneuvering. Pfft.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:46 AM
s-cubed (1,385 posts)
3. Well worth reading the whole article.
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The next question, which is not addressed, (the article is from 2011) is what caused the large drop in Fox viewership and the belief in Fox's veracity? According to the article, viewers feel like part of a secret club? Was the election alone enough to shake their confidence in Fox? Somehow I don't think so, but I can't get inside the head of a Fox viewer enough to undertand.
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Response to s-cubed (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:55 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
5. Interesting question...Karl Rove's embarrassing on-air fail
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in 2012 couldn't have been the only reason.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:03 AM
BlueStreak (8,377 posts)
9. No. That was well underway long before Rove's meltdown
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Throughout debate season, for example, MSNBC was consistently getting higher ratings. It has been a long time coming, but one-by-one people are catching onto how Faux operates.
And we've seen the same sort of decline in support for Limbaugh for the same reasons. |
Response to BlueStreak (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:45 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
24. Maybe having Rachel on MSNBC has given them
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some stiff competition, too? That woman is a powerhouse!
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #24)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:08 PM
BlueStreak (8,377 posts)
31. She's definitely a factor. The fortress is breaking down.
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What they learned in the last election is that they can't just hang out in their bunkers at Faux -- well, they can, but they will lose. Little by little, you are seeing Republicans venture timidly out into the open. The most extreme (and stupid) of the right-wingers will never open themselves to scrutiny, but a few are beginning to.
And as they do that, you are also seeing them struggle to appear less radical. None of this is very natural for them. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:51 AM
libtodeath (2,888 posts)
4. I would add one more...appeal to racism
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make sure the enemy is dark skinned.
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Response to libtodeath (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:55 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
6. Interestingly, also a tenet of fascism. n/t
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:00 AM
BlueStreak (8,377 posts)
7. I would have thought "Straw man arguments" would have made the list
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although that is related to #4, rewriting history. The Faux people roll out of bed every morning with a sea of straw man arguments. Their programming is essentially 24x7 straw men all day long. I don't think they can ever report just the facts without first setting up a phoney straw man scenario.
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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #7)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:04 PM
LiberalLovinLug (12,749 posts)
49. That's a great point
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+1
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:00 AM
The Straight Story (48,121 posts)
8. And constant use of red flashing 'Fox news ALERT' (nt)
Response to The Straight Story (Reply #8)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:50 PM
RKP5637 (61,160 posts)
26. Yep!!! Fox is way overboard on their anxiety provoking "use of red flashing 'Fox news ALERT.'" n/t
Response to RKP5637 (Reply #26)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:06 AM
Jamaal510 (10,889 posts)
73. I remember once on a YouTube video of "America Live with Megyn Kelly",
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the FOX NEWS ALERT signal was going off, and then they showed Obama on a golf course. At that point, I was thinking in my mind 'how is this even news?'
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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #73)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:35 AM
PatrynXX (5,668 posts)
75. Obama might play Golf
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but at least he's not caught in a PR nightmare saying blah blah blah. now watch this drive... like I'm Bush and this Presidency thing is a joke
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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #75)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:49 AM
Jamaal510 (10,889 posts)
76. .
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:54 AM
Mnpaul (3,655 posts)
74. The one that worries me
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Is that rotating icon in the corner. I think it is hypnotizing them.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:05 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
10. "Some people say"
Response to JaneyVee (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:08 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
11. Oh I absolutely despise that one.
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Not sure why but it's one that just rakes my coals.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:12 AM
JaneyVee (19,877 posts)
12. Because starting a sentence with it allows the user to dive into a mountain of non-factual bullshit
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Its already starting off without a source.
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:20 AM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
13. it seems so damn juvenile to me....
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...sophomoric, cliquish and unprofessional. Ugh. Can't believe anyone falls for it. But then we are talking about teabillies, I guess.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:41 PM
EC (12,287 posts)
20. That gets me too,
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but the one that gets me the most is "The American People" followed by want or don't want, like they are actually listening to us.
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:12 PM
derby378 (30,249 posts)
58. "Me and my buddy Zeke were getting hammered at the Squat Chuck, and Zeke turned to me and said..."
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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #10)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:41 AM
japple (8,613 posts)
78. As Molly Ivins used to say: "Oh, those awful Some." eom
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
IDemo (16,926 posts)
14. "Mis-label" the latest scandal-ridden pub as a 'Democrat'
Response to IDemo (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:42 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
21. Oh yea. We've seen that one a LOT.
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F*x relies heavily on the laziness and stupidity of its viewers. No wonder they define education as "elitist". It's easier to shovel bullshit into empty heads. pfft.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:48 AM
Coyotl (15,262 posts)
15. Trick Number One = get folks to watch
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How to defeat Fox = Get folks to NOT watch!
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:44 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
22. It seems that a lot more of them are choosing not to.
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Thus Fox's sorry-ass ratings of late.
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:52 PM
Smilo (1,919 posts)
47. If I go into a business and am there for a while
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and fox is on - I get them to change to channel. And I am not alone
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Response to Smilo (Reply #47)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:47 PM
calimary (63,047 posts)
55. No you're not alone! I do that, too.
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:58 AM
Uncle Joe (50,467 posts)
16. Kicked and recommended.
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Thanks for the thread, ProfessionalLeftist.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:23 PM
socialindependocrat (1,372 posts)
17. 2. Character Assassination...
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The funny thing is that the Republican't party
utilizes "Character Suicide" They find people who say stupid things that are generally unacceptable to the American people and ruin their own reputations. Cantor Lyin' Ryan Romney (member him?) The Ligitimate Rape Guy Christine O'Donnel John McCain Sara Palin West Ron Paul (Turkey?) Bachmann Sanatorium and um, um, um, oh yeah - Rick Perry (almost forgot) The list goes on and on and on.... |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:35 PM
Chakaconcarne (1,425 posts)
18. I've been looking for something like this...
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For a while. Thanks for the link.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:37 PM
libodem (19,288 posts)
19. Kick
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Recommended. Bookmarked. Thanks.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:44 PM
Historic NY (34,275 posts)
23. "Lather, rinse & repeat 24/7"....
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Goebbels is smiling on FOX.
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Response to Historic NY (Reply #23)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:18 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
35. That's exactly where that shit comes from....
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...as worn out as it is to say it, it's a Nazi Propaganda technique that both Fox and the effing GOOP use constantly. Fascist crap.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:46 PM
OldEurope (1,267 posts)
25. bookmarked. nt
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:52 PM
JimDandy (7,318 posts)
27. Interesting. Bookmarking for later. n/t
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:02 PM
Zambero (6,957 posts)
28. Not to forget the infamous "Question Banner"
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Located at the bottom of the screen, pertaining to the topic being discussed. Fox News uses this technique diligently and often as a means to to sway viewer's perceptions on a wide range of issues.
For example, if the banner reads "Will Obmacare Raise Your Taxes?". The intended kneejeck reaction to the question will be: "Well, it's sure looking that way. Why would the question be raised otherwise? That does it. I HATE Obamacare!". This approach also gives the network plausible deniability, since they are not declaring the banner question as factual, but merely "raising the question". Fair & balanced as always! However, the intent to sway the viewer toward a given conclusion is never in doubt. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:02 PM
Sunlei (22,648 posts)
29. a good article. Such a shame the damages they have done to America.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:04 PM
riderinthestorm (23,272 posts)
30. Wow, thanks for posting this.
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An excellent article. Big K&R (I"m printing this out for my Faux loving mother, not that it'll help but I have to try - again, and again, and again, and again...
A few more paragraphs from the article... http://churchandstate.org.uk/2011/07/14-propaganda-techniques-fox-news-uses-to-brainwash-americans/ "In debating some of these tactics with colleagues and friends, I have also noticed that the Fox viewership seems to be marked by a sort of collective personality disorder whereby the viewer feels almost as though they’ve been let into a secret society. Something about their affiliation with the network makes them feel privileged and this affinity is likely what drives the viewers to defend the network so vehemently. They seem to identify with it at a core level, because it tells them they are special and privy to something the rest of us don’t have. It’s akin to the loyalty one feels by being let into a private club or a gang. That effect is also likely to make the propaganda more powerful, because it goes mostly unquestioned. "In considering these tactics and their possible effects on American public discourse, it is important to note that historically, those who’ve genuinely accessed truth have never berated those who did not. You don’t get honored by history when you beat up your opponent: look at Martin Luther King Jr., Robert Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln. These men did not find the need to engage in othering, ad homeinum attacks, guilt by association or bullying. This is because when a person has accessed a truth, they are not threatened by the opposing views of others. This reality reveals the righteous indignation of people like Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity as a symptom of untruth. These individuals are hostile and angry precisely because they don’t feel confident in their own veracity. And in general, the more someone is losing their temper in a debate and the more intolerant they are of listening to others, the more you can be certain they do not know what they’re talking about. "One final observation. Fox audiences, birthers and Tea Partiers often defend their arguments by pointing to the fact that a lot of people share the same perceptions. This is a reasonable point to the extent that Murdoch’s News Corporation reaches a far larger audience than any other single media outlet. But, the fact that a lot of people believe something is not necessarily a sign that it’s true; it’s just a sign that it’s been effectively marketed. "As honest, fair and truly intellectual debate degrades before the eyes of the global media audience, the quality of American democracy degrades along with it." |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:10 PM
IggleDoer (1,186 posts)
32. Also, Sex sells
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On the daytime talk shows, they lower the coffee tables a few inches to allow for the cameras to aim straight at the blonde bimbo du jour's legs.
The tea baggers at home are mesmerized by the crotch shots they barely see and are hypnotized into believing everything they say. It's like catnip to the old coots. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:11 PM
PADemD (4,482 posts)
33. These techniques need to be taught in high school
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So that they are recognized when encountered.
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Response to PADemD (Reply #33)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:38 PM
winter is coming (11,785 posts)
52. They're still taught, at least in some schools.
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My kid just learned them, so all the ads and "news" stories get labeled.
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Response to winter is coming (Reply #52)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:04 PM
PADemD (4,482 posts)
61. I'm glad.
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It's been 45 years since I was in school, and we weren't taught about propaganda techniques.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:13 PM
Kablooie (17,001 posts)
34. Did you notice most of the comments attack the writer and defend Fox News?
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It seems the words "Fox News" draw FN boot lickers more than anyone else and their responses simply validate the article.
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Response to Kablooie (Reply #34)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:18 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
36. I had not subjected myself to reading the comments.
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Now am happy I didn't! I'm not at all surprised.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #36)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:07 PM
neffernin (275 posts)
40. Amusingly
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people were really quick to point out the Fox News tactics people were using to try to discredit the author. Classic IMO.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:22 PM
ErikJ (6,335 posts)
37. #1 is "everybody else is lying to you-liberal media" etc
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Response to ErikJ (Reply #37)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:24 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
39. Nice graphic! n/t
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:22 PM
TxDemChem (1,918 posts)
38. Excellent article
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I was tempted to print it out and leave random copies around my work place, but I don't think it will do any good here.
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Response to TxDemChem (Reply #38)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:08 PM
neffernin (275 posts)
41. Feel you you there
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:12 PM
neffernin (275 posts)
42. Extremely awesome link, one thing that would make this better
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is another link with ways to combat these methods. I looked around a bit but wasn't lucky enough to find something that seems like it would cover some of the finer points that aren't as common (such as character assassination or rewriting history). It would be great to be armed with such tools in combat... erm conversation, though I have yet to convince a stubborn person that they are wrong on a lot of these ones.
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Response to neffernin (Reply #42)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:33 PM
ProfessionalLeftist (4,982 posts)
45. I agree. An 'antidote' to these tactics would be most useful.
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Welcome to DU!
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:16 PM
Myrina (12,296 posts)
43. RE: #1 ...
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It's been scientifically proven that the brain chemicals that kick in during 'fight or flight' can create 'new synapses/pathways' so that the 'fight or flight' reaction repeats itself, ie - people will lose their ability to stop and calmly, objectively assess a situation and instead retreat to the Caveman mentality going forward.
So yes, in many very real ways, Fox is brainwashing/reprogramming its viewers. Sad. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:25 PM
LongTomH (8,636 posts)
44. "Scapegoating/othering often shades over into eliminationism.
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5. Scapegoating/Othering. This works best when people feel insecure or scared. It’s technically a form of both fear mongering and diversion, but it is so pervasive that it deserves its own category. The simple idea is that if you can find a group to blame for social or economic problems, you can then go on to a) justify violence/dehumanization of them, and b) subvert responsibility for any harm that may befall them as a result.
I've posted on eliminationism before: Wikipedia's definition of eliminationism: |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:38 PM
WillyT (72,631 posts)
46. Huge K & R !!!
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:18 PM
colsohlibgal (4,890 posts)
48. Check - Sadly It Takes Two To Tango
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Fox is culpable and it seems that maybe finally some former fans have had the light bulb go on - just not enough of them.
I'd love to know how many Fox fans would notice one of Fox's favorite underhanded moves - putting a "D" designation along a republican's name embroiled in a scandal, instead of the "R" they were. They did it with Diaper Boy Vitter and others. Fox fans who bought that deception had to be the dimmest bulbs in the club. Time to actually think things through and check other sources for the remaining lemmings. |
Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #48)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:33 PM
neffernin (275 posts)
50. It doesn't matter if its true
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it only matters if they wanna hear it. It sickens me that people don't look for truth in such incredible things... Valid sources, realistic talking points.
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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #48)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:13 AM
lunasun (21,251 posts)
77. did not know that trick wow
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never watched Fox
but wow |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
51. He missed this comparison in the summary....
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In debating some of these tactics with colleagues and friends, I have also noticed that the Fox viewership seems to be marked by a sort of collective personality disorder whereby the viewer feels almost as though they’ve been let into a secret society. Something about their affiliation with the network makes them feel privileged and this affinity is likely what drives the viewers to defend the network so vehemently. They seem to identify with it at a core level, because it tells them they are special and privy to something the rest of us don’t have. It’s akin to the loyalty one feels by being let into a private club or a gang. That effect is also likely to make the propaganda more powerful, because it goes mostly unquestioned.
Actually, it's more like a Cult. It requires MAJOR deprogramming to get through to these people. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:42 PM
glinda (14,807 posts)
53. Unfortunate that they "use" people who lack education and reasoning skills. Very.
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I cannot watch them even to analyze them because it would make me too upset.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:46 PM
lpbk2713 (39,997 posts)
54. Faux wrote the book on mass media deceit.
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They are the pros, they have no equal. |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:00 PM
Glassunion (10,201 posts)
56. Most MSM does this...
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However Faux has a Masters and two Doctorates in extreme bullshit.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:08 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
57. Fox is Propaganda Central
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--they have destabilized our country--mission accomplished! They all have blood on their hands.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:38 PM
Cleita (75,480 posts)
59. I think some of us are wired differently. Those four points have always turned me off.
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They turned me off of Rush Limbaugh when he first burst on the scene. They turned me off Fox News when they first came on the scene and they sent me scampering from CNN when Ted Turner sold it and these techniques started appearing on their programming coming to full gush with the disgraceful Crossfire, which Jon Stewart shamed right on the air. I stopped watching CNN totally when it became the Wolf Blitzer channel. I still can't stomach some of the earlier programming on MSNBC because they too employ these techniques. I have a hard time understanding how people fall them. It's the same stuff churches do to you to keep you afraid, believing in fairy tales and putting money in the collection plate.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:41 PM
cheapdate (3,811 posts)
60. Such Fun! Here's one of my very favorites...
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Ann Coulter likes this one too.
A. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is a great threat. B. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is not a great threat. C. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is no threat. A and B are contradictory. A and B cannot be both true, or both false at the same time. B and C are contrary. They can both be false at the same time, but not both true. If you're having this debate with Fox/Hannity/Coulter, the trick is to pretend that your opponent is really saying C, that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is no threat. Pretend that middle ground doesn't exist. Fun! |
Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:08 PM
underpants (163,216 posts)
62. 15. Sex - they got rid of the desk so you could see the blonde's legs ..in heels
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Response to underpants (Reply #62)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:12 PM
ScreamingMeemie (68,918 posts)
63. Completely off-topic but...
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every time I see you posting I think back to years ago now, and the hate mailbag.
"I just got into an argument with someone named underpants!" from a freeper questioning our maturity level. That letter made me laugh until I cried. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that. |
Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #63)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:24 PM
underpants (163,216 posts)
64. +
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I enjoyed that very much.
The comment to that troll was "Go away now the adults have important things to discuss" - I stole that from somone else on DU at the time. I knew that would get under their skin. |
Response to underpants (Reply #62)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:58 PM
decrepittex (53 posts)
66. legs
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The legs and face are nice, then she opens her mouth and the whole package is ruined.
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Response to decrepittex (Reply #66)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:16 PM
underpants (163,216 posts)
67. Welcome to DU
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:53 PM
decrepittex (53 posts)
65. Solution to Faux news
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I've found that if I limit myself to no more than five minutes per week I have nothing to worry about. It also cuts down on the stress caused when I want to grab some talking head and choke him/her for the BS they are spreading.
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:59 PM
Permanut (3,222 posts)
68. This thread should be required reading in every high school..
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along with the source article. I learned about propaganda techniques in high school in 1963, and that knowledge has served me well ever since.
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Response to Permanut (Reply #68)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:26 PM
Cleita (75,480 posts)
70. It should be required reading in every senior center. n/t
Response to Cleita (Reply #70)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:36 PM
Permanut (3,222 posts)
72. Excellent point!
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:08 PM
blkmusclmachine (16,149 posts)
69. K&R
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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:30 PM
mountain grammy (23,202 posts)
71. It's hard to hate and stay angry all the time, it's pretty exhausting.
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The younger generation doesn't have the time. You can be the worst racist, but your kids are making non white friends in school and they're over it. You may hate "libruls" but your kid's favorite teacher has an Obama bumper sticker on her car. Another favorite teacher isn't even white! The times they are a changin' and fox news is the same old shit day after day.
Fox's main appeal is to older people, and they don't have the energy for so much hate. They were always sitting down at the teabag rallies. |


