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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeyoncé did not sing the national anthem live at President Obama’s inauguration
Beyoncés Instagram photo of herself in a recording studio with members of the Marine Corps Band.But to close observers, it appeared the performer was not singing live. To press seated just below the podium, in front of the Presidents Own Marine Corps Band, it was evident that the band wasnt actually playing during the songeven though band director Colonel Michael J. Colburn was conducting energetically and the band members mimicked blowing into their instruments. Separately, at one point during her performance, Beyoncé removed her earpiece.
...UPDATE January 22, 11:45 AM: The London Times has confirmed our theory that Beyoncé was, in fact, lip syncing. See the video via YouTube.
UPDATE January 22, 12:10 PM: "We don't know why Beyoncé decided to use prerecorded music," a spokesperson for the Marine Corps Band told us this morning. "All music [for inaugural ceremonies] is prerecorded as a matter of course, and that's something we've done for years and years. The Marine Band did perform live throughout the ceremony but we received last-minute word that Beyoncé wanted to use the recording." The spokesperson also added that everyone knows Beyoncé is a gifted singer, and her decision has no bearing on her musical ability.
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogs/afterhours/inauguration-2013/did-beyonce-lip-sync-the-star-spangled-banner.php
AndyA
(16,993 posts)with Kate McKinnon playing Ann Romney, where she talked about being a Beyoncé fan.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)An interesting bit of trivial, but not a shocking revelation.
Wondering if the RW will make it into an issue.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)just play the recoding and call it good
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...is a different story.
People are, unfortunately, not machines.
One of the hazards of live inaugural performances is the temperature. James Taylor's guitar, for example, sounded to me as if it had been in the cold too long and not re-tuned. Musical instruments warp from thermal effects, and singers can develop throat problems.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)the marching bands in the parade can play their instruments
My opinion: give the people a live preformance or don't bother showing up
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)It's like being punked . . . supposed to be live, but it's not. I've lost a lot of respect for Beyonce.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Her vocal chords are insured to the tune of a gazillion dollars. If the coverage has restrictions on temperature and humidity that would otherwise void her policy, then sing she can't.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yes, players in marching bands can indeed play their instruments, so long as they keep playing them.
The problem with bands and cold temperatures is _not_ playing the instrument for a stretch of time, and then having to play it after it has equilibrated to the local temperature.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)in tune his guitar was. The sound was great. Did he do more than one song? I only heard 'America the Beautiful' or whatever it was.
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)I'm a James Taylor fan (yes, I admit it) but I've certainly heard him sound better.
Beyonce was singing a far more demanding song (it's a killer to sing, even in a chorus) and she uses a whole lot more of herself, vocally. Anyway, I thought she sounded wonderful, and I would have hated it if the cold, stress, a misbehaving mic, whatever, had distracted us from the beauty of the event itself.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Her version was wonderful,live or not. From the last inauguration:
"The somber, elegiac tones before President Obamas oath of office at the inauguration on Tuesday came from the instruments of Yo-Yo Ma, Itzhak Perlman and two colleagues. But what the millions on the Mall and watching on television heard was in fact a recording, made two days earlier by the quartet and matched tone for tone by the musicians playing along.
The players and the inauguration organizing committee said the arrangement was necessary because of the extreme cold and wind during Tuesdays ceremony."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/arts/music/23band.html
LTR
(13,227 posts)Also done at big events like the Super Bowl.
However, a part of me is a little skeptical about the lip-synching. First, the news originally came from the Times of London, which is a Murdoch newspaper that pretends to not be trashy. In addition, read the comment left by a sound engineer experienced in this sort of thing:
http://www.gawker.com/5978019/?post=56487851
In addition, Beyonce may be drop-dead gorgeous, but she can also sing her ass off. I'm not big on current pop music, but I can tell she's the real deal.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)then she should've. What a disappointment. It's all about the perfect presentation, when it should be about the heart that comes through. I like the imperfections of a real performance.
Bake
(21,977 posts)How many takes did she need in the studio to get it right? Makes you wonder.
Whitney Houston NAILED IT, LIVE, no lip syncing. Nobody has ever done it better.
Bake
Quezacoatl
(113 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)I wasn't aware that she lip synced it.
Bake
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)I know for sure the Dixie Chicks didn't, and I THINK Kelly Clarkson didn't, but basically 99% of everyone singing it at big events sing along to their track and into a dead mike.
It really is a non story.
Bake
(21,977 posts)I had no idea. And I am so disappointed!! Nobody does it for real anymore.
Bake
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)how much more phenomenal could her vocal been if she'd been actually singing, there in the moment, feeling the energy of the moment and the crowd. She cheated herself as well as us.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Just like 99% of everyone else singing it at big events.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)then I want verification from somewhere else (preferably my own eyes and ears).
bama_blue_dot
(224 posts)by now, if it wasn't accurate..
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Edit to add: I am a fan of neither.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Edit to add: Me neither.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)full disclosure: i'm a fan of none of them.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)for all of the music. Except James Taylor. I dig James, the "old, white guy" who likes Obama.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)music I like. The choir was great, too. But since Clarkson and Beyonce had been directly compared, gotta give it to Clarkson--I think she actually SANG.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I had to mute Clarkson, and sat there thinking "damn, Beyonce sounds REALLY good." Now I know why.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)The Choir's mouths were "off" to me ie out of sync.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I just Googled them for the heck of it:
Burst of Brooklyn Pride With Choirs Inaugural Performance
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/23/nyregion/brooklyn-tabernacle-choir-at-inauguration-reaches-global-audience.html?_r=0
The choir, with only a few trained musicians, is drawn from the congregation, which includes a multiracial mix of lawyers, doctors and other professionals from brownstone Brooklyn, but also former crack addicts and homeless people from other neighborhoods.
Awesome.
I say bring in a Gay Men's Chorus for the next Democratic inauguration, preferably from NYC or San Fran. Soaring voices and wingnuts twisted in a bunch -- a two-fer.
JI7
(89,247 posts)toshiba783
(74 posts)The thing is Kelly Clarkson's vocal performance would still win, despite the pressures of live singing and difficult weather conditions. In terms of vocalists, on paper, she's in a different league - shes naturally gifted, the only current pop star that can consistently sustain g5-a5 notes live. Beyonce just can't, she doesn't even come close. She can have all of the discipline, the echo effects, the showmanship, and the connections - at the end of the day she will always be a marginally talented vocalist.
Kelly's voice may not be everyone's cup of tea, but that doesn't take away the fact that she is an impressive singer - what she can do is rare in the pop scene.
kpete
(71,985 posts)shit happening everywhere
peace, kpete
Mass
(27,315 posts)Bake
(21,977 posts)Nobody's criticizing the President for it. Just criticizing Beyonce for lacking the guts to do it live. If we wanted to hear a recording, we'd have downloaded it.
Bake
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)And, Ms. Knowles kinda annoys me, even though she is a terrific singer.
JohnnyLib2
(11,211 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)that song is difficult to sing under the best conditions. I don't blame her with going with the recording.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)C'mon, it's funny.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Don't worry, Beyonce. My son still wants to marry you.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)and the footage showed it didn't touch him, LOL
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Since she was lip syncing.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)lol
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)I have no problem with it. And you can bet Yo Yo Ma didn't bring his best instrument either.
It's not clear the extent to which people appreciate that. The weather had been relatively warm heading into it, but took a downturn yesterday.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)CTyankee
(63,903 posts)heard was pre-recorded (he didn't say where but I'm guessing a studio).
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I hope I can survive this.
gateley
(62,683 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)weather is not a good thing for a singer to do.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I just hummed along with the music.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I'm sure glad that scandal has been exposed. What other horrors can we expect to come to light in the coming days?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I don't care that the Women of the House had some photoshopped in.
It doesn't matter.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She may have forgotten her magic mic that makes her voice tolerable. She is a joke. Another soon to be forgotten POS who thinks her shit don't stink.
2Design
(9,099 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)I'll take natural and real over phony, thank you
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)I've never really listened to her before, and recorded or not she has a beautiful voice.
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)and then when she moved closer to the mic, she was louder. If a prerecorded version was playing, it was too low to be of significance.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)I hate that anthem. It's not easy for anyone to sing.
Rex
(65,616 posts)almost there...sigh...NOPE, just cannot muster up enough poutrage over this. Sorry!
damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)it's probably required that all singers lip sync. What was that?
Rex
(65,616 posts)Really? MEATLOAF? HOW DID I MISS THAT? I wonder if he sang, 'I'd Lie For You'?
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)Bigbluebrush
(66 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Although I do give her some credit for at least trying to learn once she was properly marketed, so many of these fake artists never even bother.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I hate these manufactured celebrities. They are nothing more now than a brand - like Coca-Cola or Starbucks.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)they're no longer an artist, they're a "performer".
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)but took a lot of hair extensions
Rex
(65,616 posts)Another Brand imo...kinda like Jessica Simpson or any Kardasian. All superficialness and no substance left. Like an empty soda can.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)can't break through the industry firewalls.
I lived in LA for many years and worked (peripherally) in the entertainment industry for much of that time. Believe me, there are literally thousands of stunningly talented people in every art that we will never know of just because they don't have the right parents or won't fuck the right people.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Today, if you sing like a bird but are average looking, you're going to be a big hit at your church, and nowhere else. Janis Joplin couldn't happen today.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)and doing it occasionally because of extenuating circumstances like technical reasons or the weather.
A big difference.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)you start to wonder how many other times they've done it. No integrity.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)nt
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)An I'm series.
maryland native
(48 posts)I read a while ago that most musicians at this event "sync" because the weather makes it so hard to keep the instruments tuned.
Maybe the voice is hard to keep in tune when it is cold.
Either way, she sings a lot better than me. I can carry a tune, but only in the shower.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)And, you can't "hear" yourself. Plus, it's usually cold. Plus, the "Banner" sucks as a song.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I just thought it was an interesting question. Personally, if I went to the inauguration it wouldn't be to watch Beyonce sing, that's for sure, thus I wouldn't/don't care whatsoever what she chooses to do. But lip syncing under the pretense that you're performing live is kind of a scam. I guess we're not allowed to discuss such minor considerations on internet forums.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)A trivial response to a trivial thread. Not like its actually a big deal
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)As a non fan of Beyonce's music and personality, I don't give a damn if she lipsynced. It's what 99% of everyone does when they sing the anthem at a big deal event. Not only was my money not wasted, I also don't think they get paid anything but expenses.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I don't care one bit what Beyonce does. I was merely being sarcastic. No need to worry about it. And I also have no idea what kind of compensation these 'artists' get for performing at such ceremonies, if any.
But I would find it ironic if they were paid to perform without, actually, uhm, performing.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)And lipsyncs to the track.
Only a very few actual sing it live. The Dixie Chicks didn't, and I THINK Kelly Clarkson didn't.
I don't see this as big deal, except for people saying Clarkson and Taylor sucked and Beyonce rocked it.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)It was pretend rocking it. Kelly's vocal wasn't perfect, or the best I've ever heard her, but she had the guts to go out there and really sing the song. It was raw and heartfelt and real. Though both women are crazy talented, I'm not a big fan of their music, FWIW, but I lost respect for Beyonce. How many other performances has she lip-synced to and no one knew?
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)It only makes a difference for posters who have said Clarkson sucked (she didn't), and that Beyonce brought it (which she did -- she performed, and she recorded the track).
Seriously, EVERYONE prerecords the "Banner," and very few don';t use the track. The Dixie Chicks didn't, and I don't think Clarkson did when she sang it at a game. But, it is VERY RARE for someone singing the Star Spangled Banner not to lipsync to a track. The famous Whitney House Banner rendition was also lipsynced, and that was sold as a single.
Beyonce can sing quite well live. I see this as a total non issue, except for commentators wishing to criticize yesterday's proceedings in some way.
Sugarcoated
(7,722 posts)Which she did. It doesn't matter if a lot of singers lip sync at these big outdoor events, it's about integrity. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter that much, but what a lot of people now wonder, is how many other times has she pretended to sing in what are advertised as live performances.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)(Credit to Sean O'Neal)
http://www.avclub.com/articles/beyonce-revealed-to-have-faked-singing-at-the-inau,91459/
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...this is a "live" gig.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)They literally just said "It's not the crime. It's the cover up."
So much for real news.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)See #88.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)I believe we may have just found the silliest thing one could possibly complain about happening at the inauguration. We should probably stop finding new things now, lest we rend the fabric of space-time and wake up tomorrow to President Barbara Bush.
The only way this story could possibly be amusing is if a huge dose of irony were injected. Like if she got caught lip-syncing "Girl You Know It's True" or something.
toshiba783
(74 posts)People need to stop defending Beyonce, she is not a reflection of Obama and this is not a suprise to those who actually follow pop culture. She is a notirous phoney. She has a reputation for stealing writting credits, songs, paying for grammys, and just about anything that will enhance her resume.
Hey look she even faked being pregnant:
Her association with Obama is all for the sake of self interest.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Welcome to the modern world where nothing is authentic.
patrice
(47,992 posts)The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)Anyone who sings knows what cold air does to your pipes.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)6000eliot
(5,643 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)And I am sick of hearing about it. Big deal if she was lip syncing.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)such a shame isn't it?