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THIS is why we need art in our schools: (Original Post) Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 OP
You're my favorite person for the next half-hour derby378 Jan 2013 #1
Love it! I have 5 year old twin granddaughters Laurian Jan 2013 #2
That is beautiful. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #3
Perfect. MuseRider Jan 2013 #4
Ah...imagination... CherokeeDem Jan 2013 #5
Imagination They_Live Jan 2013 #60
You're right... her form is horrible TlalocW Jan 2013 #6
That is such an incredible picture.... alittlelark Jan 2013 #7
Art kids are goofballs--and AWESOME! Kennah Jan 2013 #8
I love his style and his originality! WinkyDink Jan 2013 #15
Wow...he's talented! (NT) Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #37
I am 24 and I doubt I could pull that off. Well done! nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #41
That is quite impressive! LeftofObama Jan 2013 #42
I love how kids use color creatively NoMoreWarNow Jan 2013 #66
Very nice! (But is his name "Scum"?) 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #73
I think that says "Sam" Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #80
Yes, it's Sam, but I can see how it does also look like Scum Kennah Jan 2013 #94
And because media and art are the only thing we still produce. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #9
Music, media, software and pizza. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #11
And weed! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #14
Massively Kicked and Recommended! AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #10
K and R YoungDemCA Jan 2013 #12
How right you are. Phlem Jan 2013 #13
Let's start with art teachers in the schools.. zeemike Jan 2013 #16
In my perfect big tent world, football revenue could underwrite the arts Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #59
Mine, too!!! calimary Jan 2013 #88
Reminds me of this story: petronius Jan 2013 #17
Thanks for sharing that story. n/t truedelphi Jan 2013 #27
"And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away." OswegoAtheist Jan 2013 #29
OMG! Read the whole story. longship Jan 2013 #43
Heartbreaking it is DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #69
Thank you, my friend. longship Jan 2013 #71
The article was Art. DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #72
I remember that story arikara Jan 2013 #62
YES! Agony Jan 2013 #18
Aesthetic: the opposite of anaesthetic. WAKE THE FUCK UP!! nolabear Jan 2013 #19
I never thought of those two words like that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #63
Kids always respond very candidly to art. Aristus Jan 2013 #20
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Music Man Jan 2013 #21
Spotted on my Facebook feed. (nt) Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #38
As an artist myself, that is seriously one of the most inspirational images I have ever seen Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #22
Wow! That little girl made that painting dance! nt rrneck Jan 2013 #23
Yes, she sure did! Bozita Jan 2013 #89
Thank you so much for sharing... ReRe Jan 2013 #24
Art was always my favorite part of school 2naSalit Jan 2013 #25
I just saw this this afternoon too. progressoid Jan 2013 #26
We don't often agree but a big K&R on this wonderful post. Whovian Jan 2013 #28
Creativity is important rightsideout Jan 2013 #30
Lovely. Thanks so much for sharing this. n/t TDale313 Jan 2013 #31
K/R moondust Jan 2013 #32
I'm guessing that's Isadora Duncan. go west young man Jan 2013 #33
It's Anna Pavlova by John Lavery painted in 1910 Crabby Appleton Jan 2013 #40
Ah thanks so much. go west young man Jan 2013 #57
Kick! Heidi Jan 2013 #34
Wow. This is just beautiful. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #35
Art is a waste of time ErikJ Jan 2013 #36
I'd rather art than that piece of crap. Cobalt Violet Jan 2013 #44
You might want to reconsider your personal definition of "art" before posting again. Romulox Jan 2013 #52
Do tell me all about it. Cobalt Violet Jan 2013 #70
Good artists usually have *open* minds. nt Romulox Jan 2013 #76
The poster stated that art is a "waste of time". Cobalt Violet Jan 2013 #91
He was being *ironic*. nt Romulox Jan 2013 #93
I think you missed the point. MindPilot Jan 2013 #87
So do tell me then the point of saying that "art is a waste of time". n/t Cobalt Violet Jan 2013 #92
The comment was sarcastic, ironic, even. MindPilot Jan 2013 #95
"not my father's bike" handmade34 Jan 2013 #45
efficient debt slaves don't need art datasuspect Jan 2013 #39
In my lower-middle-class elementary school in the 1970s, we had a dedicated art teacher. Brickbat Jan 2013 #46
I wonder if your art teacher is still alive? marzipanni Jan 2013 #61
Great art also includes great music! marew Jan 2013 #47
No kidding...! VPStoltz Jan 2013 #55
I suggest it may have been the 2nd movement from pangaia Jan 2013 #84
Quantity and Quality AlbertCat Jan 2013 #48
re:THIS is why we need art in our schools: allan01 Jan 2013 #49
I absolutely agree JamesJ Jan 2013 #50
We don't teach basic survival skills in school. Teach art to tide us over while starving? Romulox Jan 2013 #51
Yes we do. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #54
I'm talking about skills that allow one to make a living in 21st century America. Romulox Jan 2013 #77
I hope it hasn't changed THAT much in 12 years. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #82
basic survival skills in school. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #56
WHAT are we training these kids for? What kind of jobs? That's to what I referred... nt Romulox Jan 2013 #78
What kind of jobs? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #83
nice samsingh Jan 2013 #53
That pic reminds me of this one: sadbear Jan 2013 #58
art and music. Less football, less sports. K&r nt antigop Jan 2013 #64
I agree. pangaia Jan 2013 #85
+1000. You stated it well. Thank you. nt antigop Jan 2013 #86
Yes!!! (... and in our parks!) marzipanni Jan 2013 #65
That's terrific too! Bozita Jan 2013 #90
Art doing what art does best: inspiring expression SemperEadem Jan 2013 #67
during my high school daze i had an offer to go to art school madrchsod Jan 2013 #68
I LOVE this photo KauaiK Jan 2013 #74
pretty much. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #75
Beautiful mcar Jan 2013 #79
art about art watch the sky Jan 2013 #81

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. Love it! I have 5 year old twin granddaughters
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:36 PM
Jan 2013

who love ballet and art. That little girl could be one of mine.

Thanks.

MuseRider

(34,093 posts)
4. Perfect.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:43 PM
Jan 2013

As a musician with 2 sons who are working musicians I agree! Any art is good for the soul and the brain and just makes life so much more worth living.

TlalocW

(15,371 posts)
6. You're right... her form is horrible
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:59 PM
Jan 2013

I hope the arts can be restored to her school before it's too late.

I'm joking of course.

TlalocW

Kennah

(14,222 posts)
8. Art kids are goofballs--and AWESOME!
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:11 AM
Jan 2013

My 11 year old has been in an after school art program at school for the last 4 years.

Something he did back in October that Wowed me.

petronius

(26,594 posts)
17. Reminds me of this story:
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html

HE EMERGED FROM THE METRO AT THE L'ENFANT PLAZA STATION AND POSITIONED HIMSELF AGAINST A WALL BESIDE A TRASH BASKET. By most measures, he was nondescript: a youngish white man in jeans, a long-sleeved T-shirt and a Washington Nationals baseball cap. From a small case, he removed a violin. Placing the open case at his feet, he shrewdly threw in a few dollars and pocket change as seed money, swiveled it to face pedestrian traffic, and began to play.

--Snip--

No one knew it, but the fiddler standing against a bare wall outside the Metro in an indoor arcade at the top of the escalators was one of the finest classical musicians in the world, playing some of the most elegant music ever written on one of the most valuable violins ever made. His performance was arranged by The Washington Post as an experiment in context, perception and priorities -- as well as an unblinking assessment of public taste: In a banal setting at an inconvenient time, would beauty transcend?

--Snip--

There was no ethnic or demographic pattern to distinguish the people who stayed to watch Bell, or the ones who gave money, from that vast majority who hurried on past, unheeding. Whites, blacks and Asians, young and old, men and women, were represented in all three groups. But the behavior of one demographic remained absolutely consistent. Every single time a child walked past, he or she tried to stop and watch. And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away.

--Snip--

OswegoAtheist

(609 posts)
29. "And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away."
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jan 2013

That made me suddenly very sad.

Oswego " " Atheist

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. OMG! Read the whole story.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jan 2013

I heard about this impromptu Joshua Bell Metro station recital shortly after it was released, I think on NPR, or something.

This is an awesome read. It will also break your heart.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
69. Heartbreaking it is
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:18 PM
Jan 2013

An old love is one of the world's finest choreographers. She has worked with everyone - from Martha Graham to Nureyev to Alvin Ailey and Mark Morris.

We used to go to Grand Central with a few of her dancers and they would perform various movements. These were some of the finest dancers on the planet and they would pretty much get the same response as Mr Bell.

On the other hand, we would go out to the Botanical Society and they would work around the reflecting pond. 180 degree difference.

longship

(40,416 posts)
71. Thank you, my friend.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jan 2013

The Joshua Bell sub thread is also pertinent. If I had heard Bach's Chaconne from his sonatas for solo violin in a subway station I would have stood, transfixed, eager for more, no matter the expertease of the musician. I would have been late for work, late for nearly anything in order to witness such a thing.

Peace to you.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
72. The article was Art.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jan 2013

I sent it to every Artist I know - painters, sculptors, photogs, actors, musicians and dancers.

That, in itself, was an act. Today is the first time I have ever realized how many tremendously talented friends I have. That realization is somewhat humbling.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
62. I remember that story
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

I'd like to think that I'd be one who'd stop to listen. I do stop sometimes to listen to street performers.

nolabear

(41,926 posts)
19. Aesthetic: the opposite of anaesthetic. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jan 2013

Best thing an art history professor ever taught me.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
21. Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jan 2013

Artists tend to be the first ones to notice absurd things in society. This kid will grow up to be one of the sane ones

Is this your child? If not, where'd you stumble across this gem?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
24. Thank you so much for sharing...
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:51 AM
Jan 2013

... I totally agree with you. I love that little girl expressing herself. Disallowing arts in school is like telling a child not to speak unless spoken to.

2naSalit

(86,282 posts)
25. Art was always my favorite part of school
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:53 AM
Jan 2013

when I was a child. When they cut school funds and stopped having art, I stopped attending. Fortunately, a quarter of a century later, when I went to college I immediately got into some art classes... it was the only way I could get interested and discipline myself to go every day, it was my reward for going to college in my mid thirties. I can totally relate to this little girl, I remember doing almost the exact same thing when i saw Degas' paintings of the ballerinas at about the same age.

Thanks for sharing, heartwarming!

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
33. I'm guessing that's Isadora Duncan.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:48 AM
Jan 2013

That free spirited style she brought to dance was revolutionary. We need that beautiful free spirited creative mindset taught to our children. The "business" of schooling children is one of the biggest problems facing our country. Art, wonder, magic, and mystery and romance need to return to the lives of children.

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
40. It's Anna Pavlova by John Lavery painted in 1910
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:10 AM
Jan 2013

at the Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow, Scotland.

Beautiful photo.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
57. Ah thanks so much.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:04 PM
Jan 2013

Good to know. The way she sways so freely in the fairy like white dress had me thinking it was Isadora. Tres cool info. Thanks.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
91. The poster stated that art is a "waste of time".
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:55 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not open to the idea that my whole being is a "waste of time". Pretty fucking insulting.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
95. The comment was sarcastic, ironic, even.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:03 PM
Jan 2013

Art is much more than just painting and sculpture. And if art is not taught, not only will there be no one to design cool machinery, there will be no one to appreciate it.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
45. "not my father's bike"
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:53 AM
Jan 2013

love seeing so many designs of bikes... how about more art (and engineering)

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
46. In my lower-middle-class elementary school in the 1970s, we had a dedicated art teacher.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jan 2013

Of course, we did a lot of craft projects in class, and there were always crayons and clay and tempera paints. But every Monday, two kids from each class got to go down to the art room and work on a project for a week. The art teacher was short and demanding and a little scary, and encouraged kids to try new things. If you loved to paint, she'd push you toward a sculpture. If you liked mobiles, she'd suggest making a board game. At the end of the week, you brought your project back to class and did a show-and-tell about it.

Her room was a magical place. I remember it as an endless warren of boxes full of feathers, cloth scraps and string. Stacks of construction paper and newspaper stood in corners. She had tubs of clay and gallons of glue. If you wanted buttons, she pulled out bowls of them. If you needed toilet-paper rolls, she asked how many. If you decided that what would be perfect for your sculpture was a gold-tone costume necklace with glass jewels the color of rubies, she would disappear behind a pile of rug remnants to emerge with just the thing you were looking for.

The room was hot and had no windows and smelled like paint. The scissors were always sharp and the glue bottles never clogged up. There was no rush and while she often had suggestions for your work, nothing you did was wrong. I still dream about the place sometimes.

marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
61. I wonder if your art teacher is still alive?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jan 2013

It would be cool if you could send her this reminiscence. I've heard people on Storycorps on NPR talking to a former teacher and it's so touching when a teacher finds out that a former student was inspired by, and remembers them, so many years later.

marew

(1,588 posts)
47. Great art also includes great music!
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jan 2013

I heard Beethoven's Ninth in middle age and haven't been the same since...

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
55. No kidding...!
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jan 2013

Music IS the greatest of arts: from one mind through the medium of another to yours with none of them being able to touch it.
I heard the slow movement of the Beethoven 5th played by the Berlin Phil. when President Kennedy was killed and THAT was turning point in my life. Something so powerfully beautiful performed to give emotion with something so powerfully tragic.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
84. I suggest it may have been the 2nd movement from
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

the Beethoven 7th Symphony, or possibly from the 3rd symphony.
The 2nd movement from the 3rd symphony is actually marked Marcia funebre.
The 2nd movement from the 7th symphony is not marked as a funeral march but it was played a great deal at the time of JFK's assassination.

Of course von Karajan was 'his own man' so perhaps he did play the 5th symphony's slow movement, although it is not quite as appropriate as the other two.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
48. Quantity and Quality
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jan 2013

The current USA and especially (tho' not just) the GOP are all about quantity and quality is being ignored. I mean, who the hell wants to go to a school full of armed guards?

Art adds quality. It should be commissioned and paid for. Sure 90% of art is not Vermeer and Van Gogh, but that's true at any given time in history. The passage of time weeds out the chaff, leaving the yummy kernels for future generations.

It's not for kids. It's for adults. But in school, learning about painting teaches how images, color and symbols can move and effect people. Learning about theatre and poetry teaches how words can be wielded to say more than just their dictionary meanings. And also makes it possible to recognize BAD ACTING and INSINCERE THEATRE.... a very useful trait as an adult (especially at election time).

The history of all those paintings and buildings and plays and music gives you an idea of where you are in your own civilization, and who else has influenced your civilization.

It's simply not superfluous or just decoration. It's important.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
49. re:THIS is why we need art in our schools:
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jan 2013

when i was little . my mom was a ca teacher and she took summers off to raise us . we did a lot of museuming for that very reason. when the folk who decided that "we need to return back to the baiscs" and took out art in the schools , that was a big mistake . a local high school here decided to fight tooth and nail to keep its music and art programs . parents got involed and they became a after school program. my grandad was a man ahead of his time . he said " the california school system gave him the tools so he could teach his kids on sunday this is brill . old saying art imitates life gobama

JamesJ

(35 posts)
50. I absolutely agree
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jan 2013

but the only way this beautiful little girl gets funding for her school is if she's holding a football.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
54. Yes we do.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jan 2013

In school I learned how to mend my clothes. How to cook. How to swim. How to balance my checkbook. How to find employment, including how to do a resume and practice interviews. How to think critically, from debate, to mathematics. How to not get my girlfriend pregnant, preserving our earning potential and freedom until we were ready to start a family. CPR. Food safe handling.

We had some side activities and groups for things like camping and how to build a shelter, but those were not really official, so they probably don't count a whole lot.

But the vast majority of things I needed for life, I learned in the Seattle Public School system, and I am grateful for it. Who knows where I would be without it.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
77. I'm talking about skills that allow one to make a living in 21st century America.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jan 2013
In school I learned how to mend my clothes. How to cook. How to swim. How to balance my checkbook. How to find employment, including how to do a resume and practice interviews.


Perhaps it was a different era, but I learned precisely NONE of those things in school. I doubt today's kids learn that, either.
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
56. basic survival skills in school.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jan 2013

Yeah.... all that socializing in school is just useless.

Again... the quantity/quality thing. Even hunter/gatherers made necklaces and decorated tools.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
83. What kind of jobs?
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jan 2013

Jobs where you need not know anything about your culture...except maybe sports.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
85. I agree.
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

But are and music is always the first to receive cuts.
Art, dance, music are the soul of a people. Without "art'..nothing.
They are what help keep a nation sane.

marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
65. Yes!!! (... and in our parks!)
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013


Optimist: someone who figures that taking a step backward after taking a step forward is not a disaster, it's a cha-cha.
- Robert Brault

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
68. during my high school daze i had an offer to go to art school
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jan 2013

i had my teachers recommendations and a family friend who was going to pay my way to the art institute in chicago. dumb ass me i turned it down.

oh well....

mcar

(42,270 posts)
79. Beautiful
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 06:38 PM
Jan 2013

Just beautiful. Also, watching the parade with my high school marching band drummer so. Another need for arts.

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