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Are we STILL talking about Gun Control in here?!!!!! (Original Post) SaveAmerica Jan 2013 OP
STILL marions ghost Jan 2013 #1
Yep Kalidurga Jan 2013 #2
Good you're being up front about it. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #3
Well honestly it wasn't my idea. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #5
There are a good many steps that can help, in my view. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #8
I think you are right... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #9
Me too. I'll even give up my 3rd Amendment rights for when they begin the confiscation... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #6
LOL good one Kalidurga Jan 2013 #7
GD is the new Gungeon. LAGC Jan 2013 #4
GD is less of an echo chamber .... bongbong Jan 2013 #10
I agree. LAGC Jan 2013 #11
Good idea bongbong Jan 2013 #12
Well, for now and until we get things turned around! SaveAmerica Jan 2013 #13

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. Yep
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jan 2013

The gun rights people have convinced me that a ban is the only solution. Personally I would have gone with much stricter gun control and banning high capacity clips.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
3. Good you're being up front about it.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jan 2013

Frankly, I think that's what a pretty darn big percentage of gun control advocates really want...they've just considered that goal to be unattainable all at once and have opted for an incremental approach. That's all well and good...save for the pretense that a complete ban isn't really the long-term goal.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. Well honestly it wasn't my idea.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jan 2013

It is all the gun proponents saying why this regulation or that regulation won't work. For example banning assault rifles they explain in detail why that won't work. So, I am left with the only solution is as close to a total ban on all guns as possible.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
8. There are a good many steps that can help, in my view.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:40 PM
Jan 2013

Universal background checks for one. Mandated security provisions (gun safes, etc...), for another. Completely revamping our approach to the stupid War on Drugs (given that a majority of US homicides every year are drug-related...). Etc.

I have mixed feelings about a near-total ban on firearms (I'm a 110lb female...a world in which pure brute strength rules is unappealing to me), but even if I were an unequivocal supporter of the idea I don't think simply legislating it would make it so. Passing a law which literally tens of millions of people would disobey strikes me as a very bad idea.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. I think you are right...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jan 2013

However I have seen everyone one of those ideas (pardon this reference) shot down. Except for the war on drugs, most people agree it is a wrong headed approach to combating crime and addictions. And that it creates a lot more violence than it solves. There are a lot of common sense ideas that get shot down. So, this is exactly why I am more or less mostly less, for a near ban on all firearms.

I agree a law that would instantly make millions of people criminals by the stroke of a pen is a bad idea. But, I also think it would save a lot of lives eventually.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
10. GD is less of an echo chamber ....
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jan 2013

... for the dozens of endlessly-parroted (and long-debunked) NRA Talking Points that never die, and are part of every thread, in the cesspool-like gungeon.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
12. Good idea
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jan 2013

With one caveat: no NRA Talking Points, false stats, misleading graphs, etc. IOW, nothing from the repig playbook. (also no gun porn, as it is disconcerting to see WMD celebrated)

Of course, those guidelines would eliminate about 95% of gungeon-type posts, so things would be a lot cleaner (no more need to debunk lies that have been debunked 1000x already, for example).

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