A just decision for Jason Earl Dean

[AAO]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ga-man-who-handcuffed-himself-to-female-co-worker-to-get-a-date-gets-4-years-in-prison/2013/01/10/f2616bd2-5b1f-11e2-b8b2-0d18a64c8dfa_singlePage.html?tid=obnetwork


By Associated Press, Published: January 10

RINGGOLD, Ga. — A north Georgia man who handcuffed himself to a female Taco Bell co-worker has been sentenced to serve four years in prison.

The Rome News-Tribune (http://bit.ly/U76lpZ ) reports that 25-year-old Jason Earl Dean of Dalton handcuffed himself to the 18-year-old woman in August 2011 in an attempt to convince her to go on a date with him.

Lookout Mountain Assistant District Attorney Alan Norton says a Catoosa County Superior Court judge sentenced Dean to four years in prison followed by six years on probation. Dean had been charged with false imprisonment.

Norton says Dean is also not allowed to have any contact with the victim or her family.

[dhol82]

1. there has to be more to this story

if this was just a harmless prank it's one thing. if the guy is a nut job then it's another. need more information.

four years hard time plus 6 more of probation just seems really excessive for the incident. wonder if he had an attorney who was provided by the state?

[pipoman]

6. This is in another story..

"Based on what came out during the hearing, this was a very fair sentence," Lookout Mountain Assistant District Attorney Alan Norton said Monday. "There was testimony put forth about a previous incident some years ago in Murray County."

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/10/handcuffer-gets-four-years-in-prison/

[Recursion]

43. No, there doesn't. This is battery. It's not "cute" or "whimsical" or "puckish". It's battery

and sexual harrassment, and I'm sick of people laughing at stuff like this.

[CrispyQ]

53. This.

+1

[TwilightGardener]

2. Subtle. One step above a cave-man club and dragging her by her hair.

[silverweb]

3. A guy tried that on me once, years ago.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]He greatly regretted it. No police required, though I wouldn't have minded having him arrested.

Such a thing is assault, pure and simple.

[pipoman]

7. Actually "battery"...eom

[silverweb]

8. Thanks.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I never was really clear on the difference.

[pipoman]

12. Assault is saying or threatening in action, battery is touching..generally..

[silverweb]

18. I'll try to remember that.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Maybe by keeping "verbal assault" as the memory hook. Thanks again.

[jeff47]

59. Pithy definition:

Assault is taking a swing at someone. Battery is when your swing hits.

[Recursion]

55. And kidnapping in a few states

The use of restraints can bring kidnapping charges in some places.

[backwoodsbob]

22. yep

glad you were able to handle it but you still should have called the policed.

This kind of shit must be given a giant go to jail,do not pass go reaction

[silverweb]

23. Well, I wasn't alone.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I told the people with me that I could handle the situation, so they watched "on standby" while I verbally beat him up him for his bad behavior.

He finally produced the key and opened the handcuff, and left with his tail between his legs. Then the bouncer, who saw what happened, wouldn't let him back in.

We were all young and I almost felt sorry for the sauced-up idiot, but I'll bet he never tried that "cute" trick again.

[pipoman]

4. ~snick~

This sort of goes without saying, no? I mean it doesn't seem logistically possible under the circumstances..

"Norton says Dean is also not allowed to have any contact with the victim or her family."

[Butterbean]

5. Sounds like he was stalking her:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/12/jason-dean-arrested-handcuffs-taco-bell_n_925246.html

I don't know if 4 years in prison is appropriate, but this sure as shit wasn't an "innocent prank." If that had been me, I would have been terrified.

[librabear]

10. Definitely assault of some kind.

[Recursion]

54. It's battery. Assault would be threatening to handcuff her.

And actually in some states just clapping the handcuffs on is kidnapping.

[kestrel91316]

14. If it was stalking, it sure as hell IS appropriate.

Though if he had done it to me, there wouldn't have been enough left of him to fuss about a trial with.

[Butterbean]

15. I was hit on a lot by my male co workers when I was young

but never thought anything of it. A few in particular hit on me all the time, every shift, the whole shift, even after I was engaged and had a big ol' diamond on my finger. I just sort of laughed it off, it never really skeeved me out. However, if one of them had handcuffed me to a car, I would have freaked the eff out, and my parents would have had a cow (rightfully so). That's just psychotic.

I guess looking back now that what happened to me was technically sexual harassment, but you know, when you're 16-21, you just don't think that way (at least I didn't).

[bettyellen]

50. what crap reporting!! "bad date" and romantic advances= unwelcome stalking.

sad it has to get that bad before anything was done about this situation.

[lunatica]

9. I'm sure there's more to the story

He may be a stalker. People are killed by their stalkers sometimes.

I was stalked when I was in college and believe me it's terrifying and when I told people about it they thought it was just so romantic. They actually thought I was mean to reject him.

That was years before stalking became a crime. His own big brother once told me he was scared of him and that I should drop him. Of course when I did that's when he started stalking me. Fortunately he backed off when some male friends confronted him and told him to leave me alone.

The guy used to jump out at me from the bushes as I went to my classes. He would date people who knew me and give them the sob story about how much he needed me and love me and they would come and berate me for being so mean. It was pure hell. You feel alone and very vulnerable.

[Pale Blue Dot]

11. Yes, it is harsh

what he did to that woman.

I'm glad he got 4 years.

[freshwest]

13. ^^^THIS^^^

[niyad]

16. according to other stories (google is wonderful) he was a co-worker who had been stalking her

to the point that management was changing her shifts so that she could avoid him. harsh, my ***!! he was a stalker, and that was assault and battery. this entitled little creep needs to be out of circulation for a long, long, time.

you might want to look at a couple of threads on DU recently about the mentality of this person:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022171920

[Ken Burch]

19. Changing HER shifts? Why the hell didn't they just fire HIM

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and tell him they'd call the cops if he ever set foot in the place again?

[niyad]

25. i wondered that myself.

[AAO]

28. I said it "seems harsh" based on the article - which didn't go into any detail

Since more info has come out, I think he deserves everything he gets.

[niyad]

31. all the additional information helps. but even in the first article, the bastard handcuffs a woman

to her car because she had refused to go out with him -that behaviour is dangerous and unbalanced, it isn't some kind of prank.

[AAO]

57. You're right - I changed the title.

[niyad]

58. thank you

[cthulu2016]

17. Seems about right to me, given the context

[Hekate]

20. Stalking, assault, battery, terrorization -- he was harsh on her all right

I hope the long arm of the Law keeps a close eye on him the rest of his life. He sounds like he could be more dangerous eventually.

[AAO]

29. I commented on the OP article, left a lot of questions

Now that we have much more information, I think the guy should rot in jail.

[Nye Bevan]

21. Good. I guess his white male privilege didn't mitigate his sentence. (nt)

[Ken Burch]

26. Actually, that privilege may have kept him from being fired or arrested much, much earlier.

There was no excuse for the company to continue to employ this guy long after they KNEW he was an obsessive stalker. Nobody is THAT good at making the world's worst tacos.

[Nye Bevan]

27. I have to agree with you when you pointed out upthread that the response was

to change the *victim's* shifts, that was just horrible.

[niyad]

32. as a matter of curiousity, why is the word victim in quotation marks?

[Orrex]

42. Those aren't quotations marks; they're asterisks

Intended for emphasis, presumably, and to express quite reasonable disgust that the victim's shift was changed to separate her from her assailant, rather than firing or otherwise removing him.

[niyad]

44. thank you-- I did not see the asterisks--apparently not enough caffeine this morning.

the asterisks I understand completely.

[Orrex]

45. MORE COFFEE!!

[niyad]

46. making a second pot now!

[sibelian]

24. I don't think it's harsh at all.

I'd say it was quite lenient.

[Recursion]

30. Really? Cause to me that sounds like battery and sexual harrassment (nt)

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[Chorophyll]

33. How for the freak of shite does this seem HARSH?

HARSH? Would you like someone to handcuff themselves to you if you wouldn't go out with them? This isn't a joke. It's harassment, stalking, assault. What if that girl were your daughter?

[madokie]

34. This dude is a weirdo

get'm while the gett'n is good is what I say
give him a pass on this and watch out, he'll make this look like child's play. IMO

[Orrex]

35. I feel worse for him

I mean, she was only handcuffed to him for a few minutes, but he has to live with his creepy, f'ed up self 24/7.

[seabeyond]

36. wow. and in those minutes did she have any control to run away? being the sick fuck

he proved to be, the fear of cuffed to him without any ability to prevent what a sick fuck had in mind to do to her.

and you feel sorry for him?

imagine a man stalking and not taking no. not knowing what he is capable of. cuffin you and not able to walk or run or put space in between.

and you feel sorry for him?

[Orrex]

37. As a matter of policy, I do not use the sarcasm smiley

[seabeyond]

38. wooosh. relief. lol. thanks you. nt

[Orrex]

40. :evilgrin:

[WhoIsNumberNone]

39. Sounds like psychiatric treatment would have been more appropriate. n/t

[Glassunion]

41. There is definately more to the story... I think they guy is just plain stupid.

If I did this to my wife, I would have no eyes and my testicles would have been rearranged and relocated somewhere up behind my ears. I would have been begging the police to cut me loose.

[niyad]

47. that wasn't enough? what part of the stalking, etc. did you not get?

this 18 year-old woman was probably scared out of her wits, and you seem to be implying that she should have done something?? I hope that is not the case.

[Glassunion]

48. That's exactly my point.

In neither the OP nor the linked story was there a mention of stalking.

The way the OP was presented and the story written it does not mention that the victim was scared, it does not mention that the perp had a history, it does not mention that the victim was stalked. Hence my comment that there "is definately more to the story".

I am not emplying that she should have done anything. I'm stating what my wife would have done to me if I was dumb enough to attempt the same.

[niyad]

49. and my point is that you clearly did not read the rest of the information in this thread, which

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gave all the information you pointed out was missing from the OP.

[Glassunion]

51. Ooh my bad... I did not realize it against the DU rules to read an OP and the linked article

then comment on the information, or the lack thereof contained in the post.

Must have missed that part in the "DU Unform Rules and Code of Conduct".

[niyad]

56. the point is, the information was in any number of the posts in this thread, which you had

not bothered to read. nice try.

[Ikonoklast]

52. Too bad he didn't try that little stunt with a woman like my daughter.

She put the last guy that stalked and then touched her without her consent in a hospital emergency room...and he got off lucky, at that.