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(5,762 posts)And to think: someone paid actual money to have that decal made. Yikes.
demwing
(16,916 posts)1. Your
2. Butt
3. Is stupid for paying for that mess?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Misspelled the word they meant and spelled a perfect description of themselves all in one.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)Get out the blue pencils!
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)RedstDem
(1,239 posts)when i said Spanish was spoken in parts of the country before English, they looked puzzled
then i went on to say, you know, before the Mexican/American war...
neither of them ever heard of it....lol
wtf.
loose wheel
(112 posts)There were some, though not a great many, people of Spanish extraction living in the area the US bought in the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo the area was North of any area that the government in Mexico City made any attempt to territorially control. For the most part, they considered themselves to be Spanish and were antagaonistic to Mexican government before the Texas War for Independence.
Memebers of the US Army that participated in the Vera Cruz-Mexico City campaign opposed annexing all of Mexico, causing congress to buy (at the point of a sword) the part of Mexico that "didn't have any Mexicans living in it."
Under the terms of the treaty, they had to declare their intentions regarding citizenship within one year of it's ratification or they would automatically become US citizens as a result of living in annexed territory.
There were more peole indian tribes with their various languages in that area. Except for the Comanche, they seemed to get along with Americans, mostly. The troubles didn't really start until some racists in Colorado that were members of the territorial guard and wore union uniforms started attacking indian villages.
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)like San Fransisco and Los Angeles, I'm thinking there were a few who could speak Spanish....
lol
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)loose wheel
(112 posts)The name of the town where San Francisco was Yberra Buena, it had been a site of a Catholic mission to the local indians prior to that. The name was not changed until near the end of the Mexican American War to San Francisco.
Los Angeles is named for the Spanish Mission located there.
In total, the area ceded to the United States had a total of maybe 28,000 people, not counting the unknown but far more indigenous people that lived in the area. Considering the size of the area in question (equal to all of western Europe), that isn't very many.
Hekate
(90,648 posts)California -- the Golden State -- was Spanish. There are Hispanics in California whose ancestry there predates the founding of the US.
loose wheel
(112 posts)Their descendants also speak English and are fully integrated into American society. I also stand by my statement that 28,000 people, of various backgrounds and cultures not only Spanish or Mexican, is not really a significant number when comparing the vastness of the area they were inhabiting. Spanish was not likely even the dominant language in that area (ceded under Guadulupe-Hidalgo), the nation of the Cheyenne was numerous and probably had more speakers there than there were spanish speakers.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)a few years ago.
The majority of posters swore up and down it was shopped.
I remain skeptical of that claim.
Mister Ed
(5,929 posts)Kablooie
(18,628 posts)FlyByNight
(1,756 posts)For all the wrong reasons.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Just wow.