A MUST SEE discussion on Gun Control!!! Jon Stewart last night

[malaise]

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http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-january-8-2013-stanley-mcchrystal

[Earth_First]

1. "LaPierre, is that one R or two...?" n/t

[malaise]

3. We did howl with laughter at that

[rightsideout]

2. That was a great segment!

But as we know, most gun enthusiasts and that French guy (LOL) won't discuss the "gun" part of the issue as Jon mentioned. Now, the blame is mental illness, violent video games, war movies, gun control policies that don't work . . . everything "except" the gun part.

Their idea is just to add more guns, do nothing or wait it out hoping the anti-gun discussions will start to fade away.

Funny how the Conservatives who basically have cared less about health reform suddenly are concerned about mental health. What a friggin' joke. And good luck with that. The best mental health profiles available today have a 50 percent chance of actually determining which people with mental health issues actually turn violent.

I loved how the show followed up with General Stanley McChrystal in his interview saying there is no need for the average American to own a battlefield weapon whose only purpose is to inflict as much flesh damage as possible.

As Jon mentioned, we're all at risk so those few paranoid Americans who fantasize about an imaginary government take-over, can arm themselves to the hilt.

[malaise]

4. Yes he was spot on

McChrystal actually surprised me - I heard similar comments from him earlier in the day

[cantbeserious]

5. Yes - What Price Do Americans Have To Pay For Gun Owners To Have Their Toys

eom

[tclambert]

20. Aren't those exactly the people who should go in LaPierre's database of nutjobs?

Hell, we can start that database with LaPierre's speed-dial list.

[derby378]

25. Isn't McChrystal the general who covered up Peyton Manning's death in Afghanistan?

If so, the man doesn't reach me as being all that credible.

[bullwinkle428]

28. Peyton Manning died in Afghanistan!!?!?!? Wow, I'd better start keeping up with the news better.

[derby378]

29. Okay okay, I goofed there - it was Pat Tillman

I can admit to mistakes once in a while. I need some hot chocolate. My back is killing me. I screwed up.

Honestly, I could have screwed up worse. (And sometimes I do.)

[yellowcanine]

32. "Honestly, I could have screwed up worse."

I don't know, "killing off" an active NFL quarterback is a pretty big mistake. Should be worth at least a day of self imposed exile from DU.

[derby378]

34. I got my hot chocolate now, so things are looking up

Back still hurts, though - out of Doan's Pills. But it's all good.

[Skittles]

6. Stewart NAILS it

America is SICK of being held hostage by the paranoid fantasies of the minority - ENOUGH ALREADY

[merrily]

7. It's more about politicians and the NRA.

I'm surprised Stewart went the route that he did.

[liberal N proud]

8. He was on fire last night

[baldguy]

9. Gun violence doesn't happen because there are violent movies & video games.

Violent movies & video games happen because there's gun violence.

[malaise]

10. Well said

but the NRA goons aren't listening.

[Shankapotomus]

11. In the clips Jon had of LaPierre

I couldn't help but notice LaPierre, although he was against any control in regards to guns, he had no issue with suggesting controlling violent video games. But if, as LaPierre says, control of the actual weapons inflicting the violence won't help in regards to mass shootings, why does he suggest it will in the case of violent video games?

In other words, LaPierre knows control will work but he is using the existence of video games to take the heat off the NRA and gun lobby.

[malaise]

12. Because in his delusional gun selling for profit world

the problem is anything other than guns.

[Shankapotomus]

15. If I was the video game industry

I'd be like "F You, LaPierre. You object to the government breathing down your neck about gun violence and so your solution is to advocate sicking the government on us!!!???"

First class dick move if there ever was one!

[malaise]

17. Blame anyone but the NRA n/t

[jmg257]

14. Naa - he spices them all up with lots of reality. And he makes gun nuts seem like ass-holes,

selfish ones at that, without really saying that, or trying too hard.

[Atman]

16. Why are you even here?

Are you just hanging out, killing time until it becomes socially acceptable to call oneself a Republican again?

[malaise]

18. +1,000

[lapislzi]

23. This should be amusing...

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. What do you mean "again"

[derby378]

26. Why don't you ask me the same thing?

I'm a Democrat for the long haul, and a lot of Democrats began their adult life as Republicans. It is my firm belief that inside every average Republican, there's a Democrat screaming to get out - but not if they have to listen to pitches for gun control.

[bongbong]

27. LOL

> but not if they have to listen to pitches for gun control.

Sounds a lot like "if you don't give me a big tax break I'll take my jobs elsewhere!"

Hilarious!

[jmg257]

31. How could they even hear those pitches, what with all that screaming!?

If a little inconvenience for someone to enjoy their favorite hobby in order to save a few 1000 lives isn't worth it, they weren't screaming all that much....not even whispering I'd wager.

[derby378]

35. That Feinstein ban is NOT a "little inconvenience"

Perspective matters. Just remember what happened on Election Day, 1994 - I'm trying to prevent a repeat of it.

[jmg257]

36. Sure you are. And BTW keep as much of the status quo with respect to guns. What a coincidence.

Let's try preventing the next dozen mass murders, and the next few thousand gun related deaths instead - seems a wee bit more important.

[yellowcanine]

33. "not if they have to listen to pitches for gun control."

Wow, their lives are tough, having to listen to people TALK about gun control.

[tclambert]

22. He asks when we talk about gun violence, why can't we talk about guns?

Why can gun fans talk about religion and mental health and video games, and talk about banning things, about restricting people's rights in those areas, but refuse to talk about guns? If we talk about the dangers of drunk driving, we talk about alcohol, and we've made progress in reducing drunk driving.

[tclambert]

21. LaPierre makes complete sense if you think of him as representing gun sellers,

not the membership of the NRA or Americans in gerneral. He doesn't care about them. He cares about selling more guns. Think of him as PR spokesperson for Guns R Us. Then it makes sense that any solution or any issue he addresses must come around to "You should buy more guns."

[bongbong]

30. His paycheck is directly connected to gun sales

So obviously he's going to shill for guns.

There are too many socio- and psycho-paths who make a great deal of money pursuing policies that are pure anti-Americanism. Other examples of American-haters are your typical repig politician, and weapon industry executives.