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Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:13 PM

5 Feminist Demands She Wants You to Ignore

Living in the 21st century means you will encounter more than a few "independent ladies" while youíre out on the prowl.

We're not talking about the stereotypical feminists here. The modern feminist can simply be a working woman who pays her own bills and doesnít need a man in her life to be happy.

Enter you, the lucky guy who is thrilled at the prospect of a non-clingy girlfriend. Not so fast. While the notion of the sexy feminist isnít completely false, you need to be aware of those pesky feminist demands that even the most independent of women is expecting you to ignore. Why don't women just tell you what they want, you ask? Silly rabbit, then they wouldn't be women!

Here's what you need to know.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/03/26/feminist-demands-wants-ignore/#ixzz1kJn1ZDjX

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Reply 5 Feminist Demands She Wants You to Ignore (Original post)
XemaSab Jan 2012 OP
cyberswede Jan 2012 #1
XemaSab Jan 2012 #5
cyberswede Jan 2012 #8
polly7 Jan 2012 #52
mike_c Jan 2012 #2
cyberswede Jan 2012 #6
seabeyond Jan 2012 #36
mike_c Jan 2012 #39
daleanime Jan 2012 #3
Initech Jan 2012 #9
Ian David Jan 2012 #4
Fuzz Jan 2012 #7
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #11
Fuzz Jan 2012 #20
seabeyond Jan 2012 #34
Fuzz Jan 2012 #49
seabeyond Jan 2012 #51
Fuzz Jan 2012 #59
seabeyond Jan 2012 #61
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #10
leeroysphitz Jan 2012 #17
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #18
CTyankee Jan 2012 #12
Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #29
CTyankee Jan 2012 #40
Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #70
lapislzi Jan 2012 #13
cyberswede Jan 2012 #21
Solly Mack Jan 2012 #14
unblock Jan 2012 #15
DFab420 Jan 2012 #16
MineralMan Jan 2012 #19
d_r Jan 2012 #22
obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #58
Bunny Jan 2012 #23
seabeyond Jan 2012 #24
Bunny Jan 2012 #25
seabeyond Jan 2012 #26
CTyankee Jan 2012 #41
seabeyond Jan 2012 #43
CTyankee Jan 2012 #45
seabeyond Jan 2012 #46
CTyankee Jan 2012 #53
Texasgal Jan 2012 #57
seabeyond Jan 2012 #62
Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #27
Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #28
redqueen Jan 2012 #30
Bunny Jan 2012 #37
stevenleser Jan 2012 #67
LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #31
seabeyond Jan 2012 #32
CTyankee Jan 2012 #47
seabeyond Jan 2012 #50
DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #54
seabeyond Jan 2012 #60
obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #63
DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #66
obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #68
seabeyond Jan 2012 #64
redqueen Jan 2012 #33
LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #42
seabeyond Jan 2012 #44
seabeyond Jan 2012 #35
eShirl Jan 2012 #38
LeftyMom Jan 2012 #48
TwilightGardener Jan 2012 #55
ecstatic Jan 2012 #56
David__77 Jan 2012 #69
joshcryer Jan 2012 #65

Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:17 PM

1. What is the purpose of this post?

I'm probably obtuse, but I really want to know why you posted this.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:19 PM

5. Because THERE ARE NO WORDS

Honestly, I was FLOORED by this.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:21 PM

8. I agree

I would have been happier if I hadn't clicked on the link. My own fault.

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Response to XemaSab (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:00 PM

52. It's funny, actually.

Only because that kind of thinking is so bizarre ..... what era is that person from? No harm, no foul in pointing out the idiocy we're still faced with.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:17 PM

2. first, I gotta say that the original article, at the link...

...is way better illustrated than your excerpt.

Second, um, well.... I haven't actually read the article yet, but I'll get back to you. Did I mention that the original article is well [strike]endowed[/strike] ILLUSTRATED?

on edit-- OK, I read it. Takes about 40 seconds, LOL. Puff piece. I presume your point is that fox and feminism don't mix well?

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Response to mike_c (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:19 PM

6. yes...

...she has great big beautiful...EYES.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:56 PM

39. LOL....

XemaSab's right-- the article is appalling.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:18 PM

3. You want me to go to a Faux's newsite....

to find out what Feminists really want?















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Response to daleanime (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:22 PM

9. Yeah that's like asking Pat Robertson what defines bigotry.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:19 PM

4. Thanks. I always take my advice on male-female relations from Fox "News." n/t

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:20 PM

7. Can I get some popcorn?

 

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Response to Fuzz (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:24 PM

11. Here

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:55 PM

20. TYVM. Now back to our scheduled outrage programming.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #34)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:43 PM

49. Neat! A scolding! Am I grounded?

 

Sheesh, lighten up a bit. There was no giggling.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #51)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:17 PM

59. Right now you are very entertaining. Whatever evil you think I meant I assure you does not exist.

 

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:24 PM

10. I get all my information about women from

Newt and Rush

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:36 PM

17. How is that working out for you?

 

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Response to leeroysphitz (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:43 PM

18. ...............













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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:26 PM

12. Some of these comments are certainly interesting! I learn new things about people!

XemaSab in right on, in my book. This article is meant to put down feminists. It's as plain as day. Why anyone on DU can't see that, I truly cannot fathom...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:28 PM

29. I am allergic to 'links to false noise'.

 

So the OP is just a big 'wha?'

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:09 PM

40. I am allergic to links of false noise, too. But not the noise you wish it to be....

sorry...Fail...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #40)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:28 PM

70. I'm sure you made a devastating point there.

 

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:27 PM

13. So. Much. Fail.

I need a shower after reading that piece of misogyny masquerading as "advice for men."

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Response to lapislzi (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:55 PM

21. ...under the Health section, no less.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:28 PM

14. Number 6: Don't play in traffic

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:31 PM

15. the hyperlink shows they filed this story under "health".

which is as stupid as the substance of the article itself.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:32 PM

16. Wow......really?

nice to see fox news is still a classy place.....

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:48 PM

19. Uff da! Now there's a piece of crap of an article.

A sexist contradiction in every paragraph.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:56 PM

22. I honestly didn't know

that they were posting articles to the internet back in the early 70s. Anyway, I'm glad that you were able to find this, proves they were idiots back then, too.

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Response to d_r (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:14 PM

58. hahahahaha

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:12 PM

41. Of course. Look at the reaction to my reaction!

Look at the reaction to my reaction and see what happens!

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #43)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:28 PM

45. I AGREE with you. I can't understand what your problem is.

good lord, I am agreeing with everything you are saying except what you think my strange strategy is. I am at a loss to even understand it...what on earth are you talking about?



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Response to seabeyond (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:04 PM

53. First of all, I am not a man. I am a 72 year old woman, mother of 2 women and 3 granddaughters.

I have a HUGE stake in the outcome of all this stuff.

I am very glad that XemaSAb posted this. She shined a light on what is "passable" stuff on the web these days. It is fine that she exposes what she did as garbage. I have seen a lot of garbage over the years and this is just another manifestation.

Yes, I want it to stop now. ENOUGH!

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #26)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:13 PM

57. Disgusting

and very sad about the current state of DU3 sometimes.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:20 PM

27. LOL, niiiice. Nt

 

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:27 PM

28. Fox lifted it from AskMen.com

Non-fox link...Wow -- Supposedly written by a woman as well?!?

http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi_300/347_feminist-demands-she-wants-you-to-ignore.html

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #28)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:29 PM

30. You're surprised by that?

The patriarchy is extremely well established, and the vast majority of women grow up internalizing all its messages.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:39 PM

67. Assuming they arent intentionally capitalizing on it.

THere are many right wing women pundits who do just that. They know how misogynistic right wing men feel about feminist women and they tell them exactly what they want to hear and get paid big bucks for it.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:35 PM

31. And once you've got ignoring THOSE down pat

Faux News will give you a handy guide on how she really doesn't mean "No" and "Stop!". (Ads on this page will be 100% attorney's offices)

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #32)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:36 PM

47. then you shouldn't go after me, your ally in all of this!

I have been a feminist for more than 40 years. I am old. I have 3 granddaughters. I am worried sick about their future. I have fought, in my professional life (I am retired) to protect reproductive rights) when I worked for Planned Parenthood of CT.

You attack me. Look what you are doing...

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #50)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:07 PM

54. seabeyond: this is a pattern.

 

Like CTYankee, I think I know where you're coming from, and I think we have broad agreement between us. But, there's often a generalization about "men" or "DU men" that makes some of us feel like we're being accused of something without cause. And before you can even say "if you didn't say anything wrong, then I'm not addressing you", please understand that this is the big problem with generalization. It still feels like an accusation, despite yours and others' protests to the contrary. Over and over at DU, the following pattern can be observed:
1) a thread involving feminism is started,
2) a generalization is made about "men", or about "DU men"
3) the generalization is often tightened up ("I didn't mean you", or "if you're not displaying the behaviors I'm talking about, then this doesn't apply to you", and so on).
4) people like me say to themselves, 'hey, why is that person talking about men in general? I'm a man, and I'm not like what's being described', and so on.

It's a simple matter of human nature to start to feel bad, put out, when an accusation is floated in your general direction, and you're very aware that the accusation does not correctly describe you. If the shoe were on the other foot, I'm certain that you would feel precisely the same.

Now let's size this appropriately. This is not going to ruin my day, and it's not going to make me write a big flameout of a goodbye letter to DU. But this is a repeated pattern that makes life on DU just a little less enjoyable, a little less fulfilling. I'd ask you to consider that from this other point of view, and act in accordance with your conscience. Thank you.

One final point: you're not the only person who has asked the OP why he posted this article. It's a perfectly valid article to post, not because it contains words to live by, but because it's always, always useful to check the temperature of the GOP and of the GOP voting public. It's not pretty, and as others have said in other threads, GOP voters are on the very cusp of being openly racist. I contend it's also very useful to know what these dolts are doing/thinking when it comes to women's issues. Conversely, although no one came right out and said this thread should be locked, the inference was there. That's too much of a chill for my comfort--let's keep the thread, and see where the conversation goes.

Thanks.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #54)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:23 PM

63. I believe Xemasab is a female

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #63)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:39 PM

66. Thank you

 

My mistake.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:05 PM

68. No problem

Some posters might not realize that.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:41 PM

33. Aw, but she's only saying that cause she's worried about looking like a slut,

don'tcha know.

If you don't take advantage of her, she won't think you're a real man, and will put you in the friend zone! (Cause ladies are always finding men attractive and being interested in them, and then later deciding that they're just not manly enough to sleep with.)

/PUA asshole

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Response to redqueen (Reply #33)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:14 PM

42. It does help perpetuate a common myth

that women are helpless, rather stupid, easily dominated creatures that don't really know what they want and can't think for themselves, so someone else has to think for them. This is where that idea leads, and people believe it.

This is why some of your ideals scare the hell out of me, no matter how well intentioned they are. Someone judged not capable of saying yes will eventually be unable to say no.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:52 PM

38. It's like an MSM article from the early-mid 70s.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:39 PM

48. Fox News said "playa" and "benjamins" in an article?

Gender politics completely aside, somebody really, really doesn't know their own demographic.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:10 PM

55. Helping carry heavy bags or complimenting a partner on his or her looks is something

both genders appreciate. But taking over decision-making? Uh, no. Unless we've already worked that out in our relationship, you're not deciding where we're going to go or what we're going to do without my input.

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:13 PM

56. I actually liked the article

It might be labeled wrong or in a controversial way, but a lot of the younger guys (at least around here) don't seem to understand some of the points made. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/02/28/why-are-men-angry-manning-up-author-kay-hymowitz-explains.html

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #56)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:22 PM

69. Wow that author is really antimale

What? She wants men as unthinking work units? How fulfilling... Men aren't adolescent they're redefining adulthood for the better

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Response to XemaSab (Original post)

Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:37 PM

65. Oh no, what have you done?



OK, I can admit, I don't see anything wrong with offering to help someone with packages or bags, either male or female, mind you, but if someone seems like they're expending more effort than necessary, I always offer to help, and I'm as anti-social as they come. Just something programmed into me from my upbringing. But it certainly isn't a "help poor weak women" thing, it can be men, women, young or old. If they seem like they need help, I offer, so it doesn't really apply to this particular article, just something that caught my eye.

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