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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:17 AM


The Enemy Expatriation Act - another attack on legitimate protest and dissent like NDAA

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Oh boy, another police state bill enters the US Congress! The Enemy Expatriation Act will allow citizens to be stripped of their nationality for “supporting hostilities” against the US. Conviction, of course, wouldn’t be necessary.
The Enemy Expatriation Act is a short amendment to USC 8 §1481, the law which spells out criteria for the revocation of US citizenship. Already listed are naturalization in or serving in the armed forces of another country, formally renouncing US citizenship, or being convicted of treason against the US. These are, arguably, perfectly understandable. But the EEA adds this new reason to revoke citizenship:
Engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.…For purposes of this section, the term ‘hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war.

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More from the above article :-

"Now, the premise of the bill on its own gives me pause: does giving five bucks to Wikileaks count as “materially supporting hostilities”, or is that not a “conflict subject to the laws of war” yet? That’s ambiguous, though; the complete lack of a due process requirement — in contrast to the already-existing section regarding treason — is something else entirely.
The possibility of having one’s citizenship revoked without a trial is bad enough, but in concert with the recently-passed 2012 National Defense Authorization Act, it’s terrifying."

My previous comments about NDAA indefinite detention (the removal of Habeus Corpus) and the repeal of Posse Comitatus.
A direct attack against Free Speech and legitimate protest and dissent.

The FBI are already trying to accuse Occupy protesters of being "domestic terrorists".


Another article on EEA
'Enemy Expatriation Act' Could Compound NDAA Threat to Citizen Rights

I cannot see anything on what happened to this bill, proposed a year ago.
I presume it wasn't passed - otherwise there would be more on it.

Nothing whatsoever appeared in any mainstream media about this proposed bill.

Update 2
EEA is still in Committee

Update 3
Similarly it can be argued that the massive ramp up in domestic spying is not an anti terrorism measure but a domestic control measure.

A new $2bn datacenter is being built in Bluffdale Utah, to store every email in America and a sizeable proportion of mobile phone convo's and social media activity - google searches, facebook and twitter posts etc.

Guardian "US data whistleblower: 'It's a violation of everybody's constitutional rights'
Former National Security Agency official Bill Binney says US is illegally collecting huge amounts of data on his fellow citizens"

Guardian : How the NSA has gone rogue

If the authorities want to target a particular individual or group they can troll through the data previously collected, to see if there are any previous "crimes" for which they could try and charge them.

When Romney's wingnut neocon Foreign Policy "advisers" were trying to build a case for the re-imposition of torture, they could not come up with a single example where torture had provided reliable information to help thwart a terrorist plot.
The new film Zero Dark Thirty is a blatant propaganda piece for torture and bears no relation to reality.

Similarly Romney's team could not come up with a single example where the provisions in the Patriot Act had thwarted a terrorist plot.
Electronic surveillance and warrantless wiretaps have only assisted investigations - not initiated them. It would be a simple matter to obtain a search warrant for surveillance once suspicions were aroused, without the provisions in the Patriot Act.

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Ian62 Dec 2012 OP
woo me with science Dec 2012 #1
Enrique Dec 2012 #2
mtasselin Dec 2012 #3
Orrex Dec 2012 #4
cantbeserious Dec 2012 #5
tomp Dec 2012 #6
annabanana Dec 2012 #7

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:28 AM

1. K&R

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:31 AM

2. the only good thing about this legislation

is that both of its cosponsors, Joe Lieberman and Scott Brown, will be leaving the Senate in five days.

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:44 AM

3. one at a time

I wonder when the American people are going to wake up and realize that they are losing their freedoms one at a time. Remember the patriotic bill after the attacks in 2001, but we should have called it the anti-patriotic bill. Russ Feingold was right.

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:00 AM

4. Actually, I've been calling for expatriation for several years

Executives of companies that knowingly exploit illegal immigrant labor should be stripped of their citizenship. If we're really serious about stopping undocumented workers, then this would be a good way to get really serious about it.

That's what this bill does, right?



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Response to Orrex (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:22 AM

5. Chuckles, Just Like The 2nd Amendment Gives US Citizens The Right

To arm themselves against threats of Government tyranny.

Seems someones are looking to expatriate a significant number gun owners and horders.

This however could be the basis for expatriating FOX news.

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 09:26 AM

6. citizenship revoked without trial (or even with trial)....

....is just the logical extension of imperialism. there are no real countries anymore, just virtual entities controlled by money, factions of financial power. we lost citizenship a long time ago. guess what it will take to change that (i mean, besides individual development of our own consciousnesses).

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Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:28 AM

7. We should be screaming blue murder about this.

Can I assume a VETO? Who the hell would think I'd be agreeing with Rand Paul?


The Senate passed a version of the National Defense Authorization Act that was stripped of a prohibition of the indefinite military detention of US citizens on American soil by an 81-14 vote on Friday, but only after a furious dissent on the chamber's floor by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who called it an "abomination."

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2013 will now head to the White House, which had earlier pledged to veto the NDAA because it prevents the president from closing the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. It is unclear whether the president will follow through on the threat.

The NDAA is a reauthorization of the large budget bill that sets the budget for a wide range of military activities, but it has proven most controversial for a provision that critics say would allow the military to abuse its detention powers to lock Americans away on the mere suspicion of support for terrorist groups.

In November, a bipartisan group of Senators affixed an amendment to the NDAA that would have explicitly prohibited the military from detaining American citizens on US soil. But earlier this week, a House-Senate conference committee led by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) stripped away that measure.

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