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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer Aide Reveals How Vladimir Putin Played Donald Trump Like A Fiddle On Phone Call
And the U.S. president didn't even know it, recalled Russia expert Fiona Hill.
Fiona Hill, a former senior National Security Council official and expert on European and Russian affairs, has revealed new insights into President Donald Trumps previous interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin and how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges.
In a lengthy interview with Foreign Affairs released Thursday, Hill described Trump as unprepared for meetings with his Russian counterpart and overly fixated on personal interactions rather than diplomatic strategy.
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The very first time I was in one of the phone calls with Putin, I was listening very carefully to the Russian, because the interpreters dont always capture everything, they dont capture the nuances, particularly when its the Russian interpreter whos translating into a language thats also not their native language, all kinds of things are missing, she remembered.
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There was all kinds of menace in what Putin had said, he chooses his words very carefully, she explained.
Many times when Putin and Trump are interacting, Putins actually making fun of him, she continued. Its just its completely lost in the translation. I can give lots of episodes of this, or hes goading him and urging him on to something, because hes trying to see how hell react and the translation smooths over all that. That context is absolutely missing. And he doesnt do a readout afterwards.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fiona-hill-donald-trump-putin_n_67d3d4d0e4b0c55eb8c0bcf0
Fiona Hill, a former senior National Security Council official and expert on European and Russian affairs, has revealed new insights into President Donald Trumps previous interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin and how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges.
In a lengthy interview with Foreign Affairs released Thursday, Hill described Trump as unprepared for meetings with his Russian counterpart and overly fixated on personal interactions rather than diplomatic strategy.
...
The very first time I was in one of the phone calls with Putin, I was listening very carefully to the Russian, because the interpreters dont always capture everything, they dont capture the nuances, particularly when its the Russian interpreter whos translating into a language thats also not their native language, all kinds of things are missing, she remembered.
...
There was all kinds of menace in what Putin had said, he chooses his words very carefully, she explained.
Many times when Putin and Trump are interacting, Putins actually making fun of him, she continued. Its just its completely lost in the translation. I can give lots of episodes of this, or hes goading him and urging him on to something, because hes trying to see how hell react and the translation smooths over all that. That context is absolutely missing. And he doesnt do a readout afterwards.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/fiona-hill-donald-trump-putin_n_67d3d4d0e4b0c55eb8c0bcf0
Here's the full interview with Fiona Hill for Foreign Affairs:
Accompanying text: "What Does Trump See in Putin? A Conversation With Fiona Hill" - https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/what-does-trump-see-putin
Some background on Fiona Hill, who also served under G.W. Bush and Obama:
... Hill has spoken of the difficulty of maintaining a consistent U.S.-Russia policy under President Trump, a result of the clash of her "hawkish" view on Russia and Trump's intermittently warm and welcoming approach, and of the difficulty of ascertaining what Trump and Putin discussed in private meetings. Hill believed that Trump idolized Putin and fell into a trap he set at the Helsinki meeting.
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Hill's views on Russia could be characterized by increasing pessimism on co-operation with the United States, as she expressed fear that even Russia's foremost oppositional politician, the now-deceased Alexei Navalny, employed populism and had a history of engaging nationalism.
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In response to a question from [the House Intelligence Committee's] chairman, Rep. Adam Schiff, Hill stated: "The Russians' interests are frankly to delegitimize our entire presidency... The goal of the Russians [in 2016] was really to put whoever became the president by trying to tip their hands on one side of the scale under a cloud."
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In an October 2021 interview, while recounting her tenure at the White House, Hill drew several parallels between Trump and Putin, noting that both leaders had displayed a penchant for personal power, public performance, and used public nostalgia to gain support. Trump for his part described her as "a deep state stiff with a nice accent".
During an interview by The New York Times on April 11, 2022, Hill was asked about the motivation for the January 6 rally and provoking the assault on the Capitol. She responded that it was "Trump pulling a Putin" in that he was attempting to remain in office similarly to Putin's having extended his term, because of Trump's yearning "to stay in power like the strongmen he admired".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Hill_(presidential_advisor)
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Hill's views on Russia could be characterized by increasing pessimism on co-operation with the United States, as she expressed fear that even Russia's foremost oppositional politician, the now-deceased Alexei Navalny, employed populism and had a history of engaging nationalism.
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In response to a question from [the House Intelligence Committee's] chairman, Rep. Adam Schiff, Hill stated: "The Russians' interests are frankly to delegitimize our entire presidency... The goal of the Russians [in 2016] was really to put whoever became the president by trying to tip their hands on one side of the scale under a cloud."
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In an October 2021 interview, while recounting her tenure at the White House, Hill drew several parallels between Trump and Putin, noting that both leaders had displayed a penchant for personal power, public performance, and used public nostalgia to gain support. Trump for his part described her as "a deep state stiff with a nice accent".
During an interview by The New York Times on April 11, 2022, Hill was asked about the motivation for the January 6 rally and provoking the assault on the Capitol. She responded that it was "Trump pulling a Putin" in that he was attempting to remain in office similarly to Putin's having extended his term, because of Trump's yearning "to stay in power like the strongmen he admired".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Hill_(presidential_advisor)
Hill is currently assisting with the UK government's defence review.
(X-posted in Editorials & Other Articles - https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016400025 )
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Former Aide Reveals How Vladimir Putin Played Donald Trump Like A Fiddle On Phone Call (Original Post)
Emrys
Mar 18
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Walleye
(40,301 posts)1. He also hungers for more US territory because Russia is the biggest landmass in the world
LetMyPeopleVote
(163,107 posts)2. For this thread

Emrys
(8,627 posts)3. As so often, a cartoon paints a thousand words.
It's as timely as this interview is, with Trump, last I heard, on hold listening to the "Song of the Volga Boatmen" over and over again, waiting for a phone conversation that will no doubt be the best there ever was.
Emrys
(8,627 posts)4. Trump finally gets past hold and speaks with someone who purports to be Putin:
Russian readout of the call:
US readout of the call:
Karoline Leavitt
@PressSec
Readout of President Donald J. Trump's Call with President Vladimir Putin:
Today, President Trump and President Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war. Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to end with a lasting peace. They also stressed the need for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia. The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have been spending in this war would be better spent on the needs of their people.
This conflict should never have started and should have been ended long ago with sincere and good faith peace efforts. The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside. This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved.
@PressSec
Readout of President Donald J. Trump's Call with President Vladimir Putin:
Today, President Trump and President Putin spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in the Ukraine war. Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to end with a lasting peace. They also stressed the need for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia. The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have been spending in this war would be better spent on the needs of their people.
This conflict should never have started and should have been ended long ago with sincere and good faith peace efforts. The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel.
The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside. This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved.
The coup de grace *chef's kiss*:

Trump, according to Fiona Hill, never looks at his readouts, so who knows what he thinks he's gained from this exchange or whether he realizes he's yet again been clowned by a genocidal mafioso who has no respect for him, but it seems that's the last thing Trump will ever understand?
I'm confident it will end up being decscribed by Many People as The Best Phone Call There's Ever Been.