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kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 02:36 PM Mar 15

Yesterday I substitute taught in a pre k special education classroom

Last edited Sat Mar 15, 2025, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

6 children on the autism spectrum who were non verbal and 1 girl in a wheel chair with muscular dystrophy and could not talk or walk. Seeing these small innocent children 4-5 year olds who are going to suffer the cuts of this evil administration, a couple of times I felt like crying. I sat with each of the children though out the day to make a connection with them. One boy had severe eczema and was crying after he had his diaper changed. I massaged him on his arms and back and an aide got a cold compress which we put on the part of where the rash was the worst and then I used a massage roller on him and he stopped crying and was good the rest of the day. One boy was playing with plastic animals and I imitated the sound the animal makes and he looked me straight in the eye and laughed. A sweet little girl non verbal ran back and forth in the classroom and I raced with her a little and she stopped and looked at me and smiled and was calmer. But the one that I almost cried the most was the girl in the wheel chair. She can’t walk or talk but I sat next to her and spoke to her massaged her hand. She looked straight at me at one point and her face was no longer contorted and for a moment look normal and she made eye contact with me and gave me a wonderful smile. All day I was filled with joy and sadness and fear for these precious children.

Driving home I felt so helpless for their future. I really hate our country now because I know what Hitler did those who were disabled and I remember that sob imitating that writer with a disability. I pray to God I am not
hyperbolic !

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Yesterday I substitute taught in a pre k special education classroom (Original Post) kimbutgar Mar 15 OP
Bummer ProfessorGAC Mar 15 #1
Republican lack of values republianmushroom Mar 15 #2
republican lack of simple decency bsiebs Mar 15 #5
Worse Than Ever Baron2024 Mar 15 #52
I am not religious, DENVERPOPS Mar 15 #55
True but now any Old School republican sits there with their mouths shut, not saying a word. republianmushroom Mar 16 #60
Yep Baron2024 Mar 16 #62
Once when I was studying for my Masters in senseandsensibility Mar 15 #3
When my son was diagnosed with autism and was put in this special pre k class kimbutgar Mar 15 #4
You deserve accolades senseandsensibility Mar 15 #17
. BoRaGard Mar 15 #6
You have a heavy burden my friend but you still brought light, love, and laughter into some children's world Botany Mar 15 #7
Gutting the special education support angrychair Mar 15 #8
Doturd is too fucking stupid to do that......there's no money in it for him. AZ8theist Mar 15 #46
There Is A Book Baron2024 Mar 15 #53
I spent over 23 years driving kids to and from school. love_katz Mar 15 #9
Well said. Evolve Dammit Mar 15 #49
Thank you for your love for these sweet little ones Sun-Moon Mar 15 #10
I wish you were. barbtries Mar 15 #11
Love this, love you. Passages Mar 15 #12
My oldest grandchild (age 20) is high-functioning autistic and currently lives with us. mommymarine2003 Mar 15 #13
You're fortunate kimbutgar Mar 15 #14
Oh my. Doodles Mar 15 #15
Good on you for helping these poor kids. As an aside spooky3 Mar 15 #16
I asked the aides about that and when he went into the bathroom again I found the ointment and she put it on him. kimbutgar Mar 15 #20
Great! Nt spooky3 Mar 15 #22
RFK Jr says all that's needed is a good diet and exercise. Gimpyknee Mar 15 #18
I Hope You Continue To Do This modrepub Mar 15 #19
In my early years I worked in Wall Street firms kimbutgar Mar 15 #21
You did good. cksmithy Mar 15 #23
What a life fulfilling day yesterday must've been JMCKUSICK Mar 15 #24
You have "empathy" which is devalued by people like musk/trump/putin/thiel/etc. erronis Mar 15 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Mar 15 #29
My parents always said when I was growing up to treat people like I'd want to be treated. kimbutgar Mar 15 #30
You are a benefit beyond words to those children. moniss Mar 15 #26
Good info. And you do not pre-date the Pharaohs! Evolve Dammit Mar 15 #50
Oh my heart! Thank you for sharing this poignant experience. KitFox Mar 15 #27
What a wonderful story! kimbutgar Mar 15 #31
Thanks for what you do. Greyhead Mar 15 #28
I was so angry when I heard that quote recently kimbutgar Mar 15 #34
It's heavy to ponder the future wendyb-NC Mar 15 #32
I agree! WVGIRL Mar 15 #33
The teacher was so happy when she made the request and I accepted. kimbutgar Mar 15 #35
90% nowforever Mar 15 #36
I work in a resource room now, but have worked in severe and profound set up too. I am GPV Mar 15 #37
Can you... oldsoldierfadingfast Mar 15 #38
You're not being hyperbolic. BBbats Mar 15 #39
My d-i-l owns a Montessori school that is inclusive nolabear Mar 15 #40
When my son was in middle school in 6th grade in public school it was awful kimbutgar Mar 15 #43
So true. And many teachers would love it. nolabear Mar 15 #47
Your fears are well-founded. hay rick Mar 15 #41
The number of children with disabilities is increasing in this country. kimbutgar Mar 15 #44
I'm overwhelmed by the way you put kindness and compassion into action, kimbutgar. Aristus Mar 15 #42
Thank you kimbutgar Mar 15 #45
Bless you for your compassion. Evolve Dammit Mar 15 #48
A moving story. Clouds Passing Mar 15 #51
Thanks kimbutgar Baron2024 Mar 15 #54
What cuts? Littlered Mar 15 #56
Bless you. Ilsa Mar 16 #57
I'm so sorry kimbutgar Mar 16 #61
❤️ littlemissmartypants Mar 16 #58
We need OODLES of stories along these lines. More Testimonials!!! calimary Mar 16 #59

ProfessorGAC

(72,754 posts)
1. Bummer
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 02:41 PM
Mar 15

I subbed yesterday, too. But, nothing like what you did.
Just a math class where I had to help kids with algebra.
I do share your sentiment about the curs & dismantling of DoEd will do.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
52. Worse Than Ever
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 09:26 PM
Mar 15

But there used to be some Republicans who were not as evil as the Trump MAGA Fascists. MAGA is far beyond the Republicans of yesteryear. We used to have social moderate Republicans in New York called Rockefeller Republicans. I can't imagine someone like John McCain mocking a disabled person like Trump did. MAGA Fascists take this stuff to another level. Old School Republicans were bad. MAGA Fascist Republicans are worse.

DENVERPOPS

(12,267 posts)
55. I am not religious,
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 09:59 PM
Mar 15

but I hear it rumored that the Devil is busy preparing a whole new lower level of hell for a Thousand Republicans including Trump and his countless complicit comrades, as well as Trump's mentor Putin.......

republianmushroom

(19,931 posts)
60. True but now any Old School republican sits there with their mouths shut, not saying a word.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:35 AM
Mar 16

They are condoning it.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
62. Yep
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:36 PM
Mar 16

No "Profiles in Courage" to be found amongst the Old School Republicans. Well, some resisted and left politics, like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger. Too little, too late.

senseandsensibility

(22,160 posts)
3. Once when I was studying for my Masters in
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:21 PM
Mar 15

Special Education, I visited a public school run by the county for severely "handicapped" as they were called then. Until that point, I had only taught in regular education classrooms, or occasionally in RSP classes for children with mild learning disabilities, so I was completely unprepared for what I saw. I literally burst into tears within minutes. The staff tried to comfort me, and I felt foolish and like I was in the way. It was a real eye opener. You describe it well.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
4. When my son was diagnosed with autism and was put in this special pre k class
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:23 PM
Mar 15

I used to take days off and spend a day there. And I remember those children were so sweet. I think having him led me on the path to education.

Botany

(74,204 posts)
7. You have a heavy burden my friend but you still brought light, love, and laughter into some children's world
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:25 PM
Mar 15

That will not make your pain and load any less but you are richer than anybody in the
world via your actions.

Thank you.

angrychair

(10,633 posts)
8. Gutting the special education support
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:30 PM
Mar 15

From DoEd is not only in violation of law but also a crime against humanity. It is eugenics by any other name. TSF is trying to kill off special needs children to create his master race

AZ8theist

(6,719 posts)
46. Doturd is too fucking stupid to do that......there's no money in it for him.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:29 PM
Mar 15

Eloon, however.............................

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
53. There Is A Book
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 09:36 PM
Mar 15

There is a book called "War Against the Weak" by Edwin Black. It is kind of a dry read but it is an important book. It is about how American eugenics was developed and was actually a precursor to Nazi eugenics. I had hoped to go back to grad school to study the history of science, in part because of an interest in the use and abuse of science and medicine. Given that the Trump Regime is trying to kill American universities it doesn't seem likely to happen at this point. This terrible fascist evil has been reborn here in America. Unfortunately it is no longer just a matter of academic history. Now we are living it. We must do our utmost to fight it. Stay strong. We have got to fight to protect these disabled kids.

love_katz

(3,061 posts)
9. I spent over 23 years driving kids to and from school.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:33 PM
Mar 15

The kids who touched me the most were the Special Needs kids. They need the interaction with other kids and the teachers and their assistants. Those kids usually love going to school. I remember one student who cried inconsolably when the wheel chair lift on my bus broke and I couldn't get him onboard. I was able to go into the house and try and comfort him while we waited for another bus to be brought to my location.
I will never cease to be angry with these greedy uber wealthy jackals who want to impoverish and steal from the rest of us, in order to stuff more money into pockets that are overflowing.

mommymarine2003

(325 posts)
13. My oldest grandchild (age 20) is high-functioning autistic and currently lives with us.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:41 PM
Mar 15

He works part-time in an autism center, and has one client, a 7-year-old boy. At dinner the other night he was discussing how his day went, and he told us how one minute the boy is happy and then gets angry and frustrated the next. The boy is non-verbal. My grandson stated that he understands these kids because he himself is autistic. We talked about how he used to line up his little cars in a long line but never played with them like the regular kids. Our grandson is socially awkward, but he is kind, sweet, and super smart with an incredible ability to remember facts and statistics. He graduated from high school two years ago and attended regular school his whole life.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
14. You're fortunate
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 15

my son always was in a special ed classroom. Mostly because of behavior issues. But he knows how to read and write and he can build anything. Before the pandemic at his day program he was doing taskrabbit work and assembling furniture. He can assemble things easily from IKEA. He’s 32 and when he was diagnosed and the number of kids with autism exploded without enough qualified teachers. I used to take time off from work all the time to spend a day in his classroom and ended up helping the other kids! I usually encounter kids with autism mainstreaming but they are able to handle a regular ed class like your grandson.

Also thank you for taking on the responsibility of your grandson 🙏 ! My biggest worry is who will take care of our son when his father and I are gone. After his diagnosis and meeting several other families with multiple kids on the spectrum we didn’t have another children. And I don’t have any relatives who would stand up and take care of him.

spooky3

(37,491 posts)
16. Good on you for helping these poor kids. As an aside
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:07 PM
Mar 15

I have eczema and there are prescription ointments that help a lot. Can the medical staff at the school get a prescription?

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
20. I asked the aides about that and when he went into the bathroom again I found the ointment and she put it on him.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:22 PM
Mar 15

modrepub

(3,839 posts)
19. I Hope You Continue To Do This
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:19 PM
Mar 15

And tell your story. Shine the light, for I fear what will happen to these human beings in the dark.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
21. In my early years I worked in Wall Street firms
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:27 PM
Mar 15

The money was great but I never felt I was doing anything for humanity.

I now work with kids as a substitute teacher and also am a senior move manager who works with seniors, prepare them for moves to smaller living spaces or senior living centers and then unpack and settle them in. nothing like leaving and seeing a senior in their new environment smiling because I tried to replicate important things in their own lives.

JMCKUSICK

(2,410 posts)
24. What a life fulfilling day yesterday must've been
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:31 PM
Mar 15

I'm so moved by your efforts and your capacity for giving love kimbutgar.
We all have the gifts to make moments special and you built a day filled with them.
Thank you for your grace.

erronis

(19,789 posts)
25. You have "empathy" which is devalued by people like musk/trump/putin/thiel/etc.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:34 PM
Mar 15

And your empathy shone through so strongly. Thank you so much for connecting with those children, and then with us!

Response to erronis (Reply #25)

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
30. My parents always said when I was growing up to treat people like I'd want to be treated.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 15

If my mother ever overheard me say something mean to another kid I’d get in trouble. She said you’re bigger when you stand up to bullies. As a kid I didn’t always understand it what she meant but as I grew older I got it.

moniss

(7,284 posts)
26. You are a benefit beyond words to those children.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 15

The funds for counseling will also go out the door. The ignorance and evil of cutting children off from programs and resources is monstrous. The ignorant GQP/MAGATS say "Let each state do it all themselves". The task is too big to be done individually and results become too uneven and fragmented.

As you know we end up in a situation where parents in one state have far less available for their child than in another state. As a person of an age nearly predating the pharaohs I can tell people about how horrendously uneven states were back in the '50's for giving financial assistance to parents for things like orofacial cleft, joint deformities, strabismus etc. If you had the misfortune to be in some of the southern states you were on your own and if you didn't have the money yourself for the surgeries etc. they didn't give a damn.

That attitude of "not give a damn" prevails with these GQP/MAGAT monsters still today.

KitFox

(304 posts)
27. Oh my heart! Thank you for sharing this poignant experience.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:44 PM
Mar 15

What a sweet soul you are bringing precious comfort to other sweet souls. Everyone needs to hear and see the tragic impacts this reign of cruelty will unleash. I loved having special needs children in my classroom. I always felt (and knew) that they taught us oh so much more than I taught them. So many wonderful experiences; I’ll share one: I had put some prisms on a high window ledge in my classroom. That year, I had an autistic child who was mostly non verbal. One morning he jumped out of his chair and shouted, “I’m dancing in the rainbows!” and started spinning through the rainbows the prisms had projected onto the floor. I joined him and asked who else wants to dance with us. The kids all got up and we had a rollicking good time. Without him, think of the joy we would have missed. My heart aches for the fear and worry and hardship this will inflict on so many.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
31. What a wonderful story!
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:53 PM
Mar 15

I could just visualize this! And I’m glad you invited all the other kids to join in!

Greyhead

(140 posts)
28. Thanks for what you do.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:47 PM
Mar 15

Musks post ( the fundamental weakness with western civilization is empathy)
Republicans have no empathy, that’s what is wrong with our country.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
34. I was so angry when I heard that quote recently
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:55 PM
Mar 15

Empathy is what makes us all have humanity. Even animals in the wild have empathy!

Obviously the parasite muskrat is inhumane and evil.

wendyb-NC

(4,264 posts)
32. It's heavy to ponder the future
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:54 PM
Mar 15

Those children are deserving of the same love, kindness, compassion, and opportunity to live their best lives, with a sense of personal accomplishment, experience a sense of dignity, be respected, and feel appreciated. You made a difference in acknowledging them individuals.
You spoke to and touched their souls, and lifted their spirits.

WVGIRL

(39 posts)
33. I agree!
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:54 PM
Mar 15

I am a retired Preschool Special Needs teacher. I agree with you! If anything, there needs to be more money applied to schools to hire additional personnel to reduce class size. It is almost impossible to get a sub for the teacher or assistant where i live. I spent many a day alone all day because there was no sub to help me. It is also a safety issue when this happens. These people trying to defund schools are a special kind of cruel. and very greedy.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
35. The teacher was so happy when she made the request and I accepted.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:56 PM
Mar 15

I will do it again if they ask me.

nowforever

(509 posts)
36. 90%
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 04:59 PM
Mar 15

of Americans have no idea how critical the DOE has been to helping children with disabilities. The college students are soon going to find out what happens when the federal loan and grant process is dismantled. This administration is perpetrating one evil after another and sad thing is they sleep soundly every night.

GPV

(73,294 posts)
37. I work in a resource room now, but have worked in severe and profound set up too. I am
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 05:08 PM
Mar 15

terrified for our kids and their families. Letitia James assures us the IDEA Disabilities Act and Individualized Educational Plans will still be law, so there's that. But yeah, losing funding is terrible.

38. Can you...
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 05:24 PM
Mar 15

email this to your Congress persons?
Can you speak at a Dem meeting in your area?
Your message needs to go out beyond DU.
Can other DUers email it to their Congress persons?

BBbats

(201 posts)
39. You're not being hyperbolic.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 05:25 PM
Mar 15

Public programs to help these children will be the first to be cut.

nolabear

(43,709 posts)
40. My d-i-l owns a Montessori school that is inclusive
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 15

and has a number of kids with diagnoses, autism spectrum, non verbal, etc. They are wonderful at finding the ways they learn and thrive. Quite a few of course came from public schools who sometimes try but sometimes fail. Why this country doesn’t fight for these little ones is beyond me. Just another form of othering so they don’t have to care.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
43. When my son was in middle school in 6th grade in public school it was awful
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:05 PM
Mar 15

The staff did not now how to deal with so many kids on the spectrum. They called me one day to pick him up and he was bawling like a baby on the sidewalk and I find out they had shut him inappropriately in a closet most of the day. I took the next day off and called the school district and threatened to get a lawyer. The previous two years I was on school district autism task force and got to know the head of special ed and other district personnel. I told them they should start preparing for the surge of students coming into middle school. Then I found out the district was paying an average of $100,000 to lawyers per student to defend placements. I told them I knew this and wanted him in a private school. And I was willing to get a lawyer. They called me back within a half an hour and gave me names of private schools. I toured them all and found one that my son went up to age 21. The irony was the methods of behavior management they taught in these private schools could have easily been used in public schools.

nolabear

(43,709 posts)
47. So true. And many teachers would love it.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:57 PM
Mar 15

All my d-I-l’s teachers have training in neurodivergent teaching techniques. The ones who really take yo it are irreplaceable. Some don’t but they find out fast if they can’t deal with the various issues the kids face. And of course to all the kids it doesn’t matter. They’re growing up knowing there are differences and developing their own skills for compassion and respect. It’s nice to be even a small part of.

hay rick

(8,711 posts)
41. Your fears are well-founded.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 06:51 PM
Mar 15

They want to cut $880 billion out of Medicaid. Medicaid provides coverage for 59% of children with disabilities.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
44. The number of children with disabilities is increasing in this country.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:10 PM
Mar 15

For 20 years I’ve seen the rise in numbers. When my son was first diagnosed in 1996 very few people knew about autism outside of the Rain man movie. When I had to apologize for my son’s behavior and said he has autism people didn’t know about it. But as the years when on I encountered so many more people who had children, a relative, neighbor, friends kid who was on the spectrum.

Even MAGAloons have kids on the spectrum and they will get hurt also. I hope the callback is fierce against these cuts to education.

Aristus

(69,997 posts)
42. I'm overwhelmed by the way you put kindness and compassion into action, kimbutgar.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 06:56 PM
Mar 15

In this day and age, that is amazingly off-the-charts thoughtful and empathetic. It's times like this and people like you who make me hope that things are going to be okay.

Clouds Passing

(4,835 posts)
51. A moving story.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 08:56 PM
Mar 15

My son was autistic and gifted with intelligence and music. He was misdiagnosed beyond too many times and never diagnosed correctly by mainstream psych. He eventually diagnosed himself accurately yet it was too late. I honor him and his struggle.

Thank you kimbutgar for doing the real work. Compassion and Peace.

Littlered

(272 posts)
56. What cuts?
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 11:45 PM
Mar 15

I see a lot of fortune telling, thought distortions lately. That lack fact based commentary.

Personally I am more interested in the reason there are so many distressed children. What is causing this?

It’s weird. I literally encounter thousands of people on a regular basis, and I never seem to have these notable encounters. I read about them here on an almost daily basis. But I never have this happen in my life.

Thank you for what you do. Not many people can do that.

Ilsa

(62,787 posts)
57. Bless you.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:12 AM
Mar 16

I have a grown son who is severely autistic. It's not an easy life. Last night he got violent with me. A surprise attack, broke my glasses, banged up my face, and he ran to his room.

kimbutgar

(25,128 posts)
61. I'm so sorry
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:44 PM
Mar 16

My son used to get violent with me when he was 20. I lived in fear until we found a decent group home. We used to bring him every other weekend but during the pandemic we brought him home for a week and now he prefers one long stay monthly instead of the weekend.

Stay safe.

calimary

(86,356 posts)
59. We need OODLES of stories along these lines. More Testimonials!!!
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:57 AM
Mar 16

The more of these stories there are, the more likely SOMEBODY on the receiving end will help them spread. And make sure MORE eyeballs can see and know, and maybe pass it on to THEIR friends, and ...

Well, you know the story. One of those shared stories maybe be THE one that helps turn the tide. You just never know. So why not help a little?

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