Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:28 PM
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 I just noticed that amongst all the 'blame the parents' and 'arm the teacher' threads (Original post) |
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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:46 AM
brush (12,918 posts)
81. I second that. nt
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:33 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
2. absolutely.
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #8)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:46 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
15. i'd like to do the same
Response to barbtries (Reply #15)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:02 PM
22. The mutual fund company TRowePrice offers a free tool (called
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the Portfolio XRay) that looks at the individual holdings in each mutual fund you own and breaks them down for you. You click on this 'Stock Intersection' button and their tool slices and dices your holdings to show the stocks contained therein. (It's actually quite eye-opening and I was surprised to find out that I own a couple shares of Apple and Facebook stock through these mutual funds. Who'd a thunk it of a Democratic Socialist like me?
You don't have to be a paying customer of TRP, but you do have to sign up for an account and you have to do some data entry to get started. Only problem I have is that I don't really know or recognize the names of all the weapons manufacturers, other than the obvious ones. But, if you want to take a look, here's the link to the TRP tool: http://individual.troweprice.com/public/Retail/Planning-&-Research/Tools-&-Resources/Investment-Planning/Portfolio-X-Ray |
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #22)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:57 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
38. thank you
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:35 PM
FourScore (9,697 posts)
3. Huh? Who's blaming the parents? n/t
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #10)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:30 AM
71. Holy crap! Your right! It's like a kind of high-jacking of...
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #16)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:56 PM
jberryhill (47,490 posts)
21. It makes no difference that she was a victim
Response to jberryhill (Reply #21)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:06 PM
25. Wow, I know enough to know when I am in the presence of an expert and
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to STFU
I guess, though, what I was trying in my inept way to suggest is that maybe the mother thought she had secured her weapons, never dreaming that her son would kill her to gain access to the arsenal. IOW, how much should she have been reasonably expected to anticipate in trying to secure the weapons? In your hypothetical, the tiger ate its owner, I think. That said, I readily take your point. |
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #25)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:05 PM
ET Awful (24,376 posts)
40. Think of it this way . . .
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #25)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:20 PM
tblue37 (24,330 posts)
83. He killed her with a gun AFTER gaining access to it,
Response to jberryhill (Reply #21)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:21 PM
IllinoisBirdWatcher (961 posts)
30. Owning a tiger is highly regulated, highly restricted, and highly monitored.
Response to jberryhill (Reply #21)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:26 PM
KittyWampus (55,894 posts)
48. That was a very good post, thanks. People who own guns should thus secure them & be INSURED in the
Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #16)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:03 PM
23. My husband bought a safe a few weeks ago
Response to FourScore (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:49 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
17. i find myself
Response to barbtries (Reply #17)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:37 PM
32. I am a single woman in my late 40's ...
Response to Myrina (Reply #32)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:59 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
39. of course not.
Response to barbtries (Reply #39)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:19 PM
43. Agreed, but the relative they spoke to in the article
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... was quoted as saying (paraphrase) "
 Nancy) ...was a divorced female, she needed the gun(s) for self-protection".
Bullpuckey. Just ... bullpuckey. |
Response to Myrina (Reply #43)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:23 PM
barbtries (18,597 posts)
44. okay, i didn't read that
Response to Myrina (Reply #32)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:52 AM
70. I'm a disabled woman who lives alone & has a 12 lb watch mutt
Response to tpsbmam (Reply #70)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:44 AM
duhneece (2,632 posts)
80. Here's a smattering of facts
Response to barbtries (Reply #17)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:25 PM
kag (1,530 posts)
65. I agree with you.
Response to FourScore (Reply #3)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:46 AM
74. Blaming the parents of the shooter, not the victims.
Response to IDoMath (Reply #33)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:51 PM
60. The purpose is the same, the only disparity is quantity.
Response to IDoMath (Reply #36)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:10 PM
billh58 (5,576 posts)
41. Spoken like a well-trained Gungeoneer.
Response to billh58 (Reply #41)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:28 PM
heaven05 (14,417 posts)
50. there
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really seems to be a lot of muddying of the water here when the logic is VERY CLEAR. Assault weapons kill masses of people = mass extermination weapon. You're right bill58, lot of NRA talking points lately and disingenous pro gun arguments. I am really surprised at all the assault weapon proponents/ protectors here who call themselves compassionate human beings. I really am surprised.
 NRA needs to be sent to the fireplace and sent up in smoke. They are part of the problem, not the solution.  |
Response to IDoMath (Reply #54)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:59 PM
billh58 (5,576 posts)
56. Nice try
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at using hyperbole in response to being called out as a gunner apologist. And, yes you are still using semantics to defend guns, and gunners. You see, guns DO kill people, and especially when they're in the hands of a lunatic who got the gun from a "responsible" gun owner.
And just to point out, there is a law in most states that covers the use of a gun to threaten someone as "terroristic threatening." Does that make the perp a terrorist? If you want to be a strict semanticist, yes it does. I'm sure that you are a hero in the eyes of your right-wing NRA Gungeon buddies, but to most of the Democrats on DU you're just another part of the problem. Ta... 
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Response to IDoMath (Reply #57)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:38 PM
billh58 (5,576 posts)
58. I'll tell you what needs to be adjusted:
Response to billh58 (Reply #41)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:55 AM
Tumbulu (4,518 posts)
68. Excellent post! nt
Response to IDoMath (Reply #4)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:23 PM
TeamPooka (11,132 posts)
45. killing 26 people in two minutes sounds like mass destruction to me.
Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #19)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:32 PM
billh58 (5,576 posts)
52. Your own logic fails the smell test.
Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #28)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:47 PM
35. There wouldn't be 28 dead men, women, and children had he chosen a knife
Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #28)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:29 PM
billh58 (5,576 posts)
87. And we have a winner!
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Pizza for the Dim Bulb from the Gungeon...
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Response to Post removed (Reply #5)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:24 PM
TeamPooka (11,132 posts)
46. We're blaming the shooter but there is more blame to go around
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:38 PM
6. It's a business, like any other--and they profit anytime
Response to toby jo (Reply #14)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:53 PM
37. McDonalds is engaging in legal commerce too
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:04 PM
24. The gun industry has never claimed their product doesn't kill people...
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:09 PM
27. Agreed. But his mother was a Glenn Beck type, who stockpiled ammo and guns.
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:14 PM
Lithos (24,368 posts)
29. I don't think they are that responsible for it
Response to Lithos (Reply #29)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:31 PM
51. See what I posted below about Cerberus Capital
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:33 PM
mzmolly (47,823 posts)
31. Goes without
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:47 PM
34. Good catch, I didn't notice that!
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:17 PM
42. Typical deflection tactics. They want people to waste time arguing about parents/drugs/teachers
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:24 PM
47. Hey
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Don't ya know it's always the mother's fault.
And dad doesn't seem to know a darn thing about his kids. Where is the older brother anyway? And where is the dude that was in the woods in camo taken away in handcuffs saying, "I didn't do it." And was the father to testify regarding the LIBOR scandal? Anyone heard anything? |
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:28 PM
49. Bushmaster is now owned by Cerberus Capital Management
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:46 PM
womanofthehills (3,068 posts)
53. Hey, how about " blame the pharmaceutical companies"
Response to womanofthehills (Reply #53)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:45 PM
59. That's typical in our pill culture where there's a drug for everything.
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:59 PM
55. How Can You Hug Your Kid With Firearms?
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Last edited Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:06 AM - Edit history (1) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . You assholes who can't come to grips with reality need to get a fucking psych eval. Here's the photo of the weapons used by adam lanza. If the rifle isn't an assault weapon, what is..a bazooka? . . 
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. . Reference Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_M4_Type_Carbine . . . "...We have to save each other because all victims are equal and none is more equal than others. It's everyone's duty to start the avalanche." --Bartholomew "Barley" Scott Blair, "The Russia House" . . . . . . . . . |
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:30 PM
63. I blame the gun manufacturers for marketing their products to potentially violent,
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 11:39 PM
Skittles (113,858 posts)
66. of course not
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 12:49 AM
67. When you say 'blame the parents' threads, you're talking about me.
Response to Rachel_Martin (Reply #75)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:55 AM
82. I have a measure of difficulty with that statement. What about children who are taught racism.
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:46 AM
The Wielding Truth (9,849 posts)
77. When you make people killers and they do their job and kill people, is it the makers or the users or
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:43 AM
78. We need to make the gun manufacturers pay just like the Tobacco Industry
Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 10:27 AM
duhneece (2,632 posts)
79. Amen. nt
